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post #13021 of 16600
How's the situation there for ABC/LiveWell bitrates?
post #13022 of 16600
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

the "waste" from wnyw/wwor is going away very soon

I just happened to check, and 5-2 is now SD of FOX 5-1, while 9-2 is SD of My 9-1, so they're no longer simulcasting each other's feed. Hopefully they start showing something new soon.
post #13023 of 16600
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Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

I just happened to check, and 5-2 is now SD of FOX 5-1, while 9-2 is SD of My 9-1, so they're no longer simulcasting each other's feed. Hopefully they start showing something new soon.

Thats been the case for quite a while now. Since early summer at least.
post #13024 of 16600
There should be no subs for 5 & 9. Subs are just a waste that make the main channel pq worse.
post #13025 of 16600
Fox splicer.

- Trip
post #13026 of 16600
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Originally Posted by AloEuro View Post

25-2,3 ICN- 704x 480i 30 HZ Must be showing Chinese calendar giving year 2057
The programming prewievs showing on 25-2,3 ICN-Information Culture News, really should be Chinese Info-News, all the serials are produced in mainland, there are no Hong Kong/Macau actors except in the movies. The movie they will show
Warlords - 1860 uprising with Jet Li.
Ip Man 1 and 2 -some of the best martial arts films ever by teacher of Bruce Lee.
Red Cliff part I and II - epic war saga, most expensive fim ever made in Chine, worthy.
All these movies you may borrow for wk -no fee- from BPL, make request/holds, enjoy


I understood since i watch Asian movies. Damn shore hope they start showing these films This week or sometime this month
post #13027 of 16600
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Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

I just happened to check, and 5-2 is now SD of FOX 5-1, while 9-2 is SD of My 9-1, so they're no longer simulcasting each other's feed. Hopefully they start showing something new soon.

im hearing it will be mobile or data service not any tv channels
post #13028 of 16600
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

I would like to know what exact tv and fm stations broadcast off of 4 times square building? Would be good if the weaker stations like wnet and wpxn moved there. I get wnye good with no breakups.

You're getting WNYE?

Since when? I haven't been getting it for over a month.




Danny
post #13029 of 16600
It appears all the video problems on WKOB have finally been fixed, however, the audio is still in the surround channels only, out of synch a millisecond ahead of the video, and extremely loud.

By engaging Straight Digital Dolby on your A/V receiver, you can force the audio to the front speakers.

RTV NY Schedule PDF
post #13030 of 16600
I have a Zenith DT901. Last weekend I noticed that the time displayed is wrong. It's one hour behind. If it's 5PM, the Zenith shows 4PM. This is the case for most channels, not for (from my memory) 25.x and one or two others. My box is set the AUTO Daylight Savings time.

Anyone see this too?
post #13031 of 16600
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Originally Posted by DeadFormatLover View Post

It appears all the video problems on WKOB have finally been fixed, however, the audio is still in the surround channels only, out of synch a millisecond ahead of the video, and extremely loud.

Except nobody outside of WKOB's neighborhood can get the channel.
post #13032 of 16600
Same problem with both my Zenith converters since this past weekend. Maybe they shift back to standard time in China second Sunday in October and this is hardwired into the Zenith???
post #13033 of 16600
As far as I know all of these devices get the time from PSIP or TVGOS suppliers. It could be hard coded but I doubt it. I suspect it was passed to your box and the box picked it up. It just happened to grab it from some station that is not updating the time correctly due to poor maintenance or lack there of.
post #13034 of 16600
More about the wrong time being transmitted in the data stream.

I have found the following.

Channels 9 and 31 have the correct time.

Channels 2,4,5,7,11,13,25,50 have the wrong time. They are one hour back.

I assume, rather EXPECT, that my selecting AUTO for daylight saving time would have the converter box reading the time from the data stream. If the data in the data stream is wrong (I believe it is), then the time displayed will be wrong.

Why would major network broadcasters like 2,4,5,7 have the wrong time?

Any one here with a professional broadcasting background who can shed light on this problem?

Do other NON-Zenith boxes have the same problem?

I saw the same problem last time, about 1 or 2 weeks before the time shift.
post #13035 of 16600
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeadFormatLover View Post

It appears all the video problems on WKOB have finally been fixed, however, the audio is still in the surround channels only, out of synch a millisecond ahead of the video, and extremely loud.

By engaging Straight Digital Dolby on your A/V receiver, you can force the audio to the front speakers.

RTV NY Schedule PDF

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Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

Except nobody outside of WKOB's neighborhood can get the channel.

Not at all. Indoor only antenna, of course, but with a moderate V/U or V roof antenna with amp, decent line of sight, comes in consistently with and 81-85 signal strength and have never experienced the electrical interference known to afflict RF channel 2, and far far better here than the ESB UHF disaster for CBS, NBC, FOX, WWOR, WPXN and others.

Looks like someone is paying attention to what is posted here. Today the blasting audio level is back to normal and almost in synch with video. Only single problem that remains is surround channel only audio.
post #13036 of 16600
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Originally Posted by NYC10033 View Post

I have a Zenith DT901. Last weekend I noticed that the time displayed is wrong. It's one hour behind. If it's 5PM, the Zenith shows 4PM. This is the case for most channels, not for (from my memory) 25.x and one or two others. My box is set the AUTO Daylight Savings time.

Anyone see this too?

All 3 of my brand OTA receivers, (Dishnet VIP722, Samsung SIR-T165 and JVC HM-DT100U) displaying correct times on all channels.
post #13037 of 16600
My PAL box displays the correct time.
post #13038 of 16600
Well, I spoke too soon. In less than 48 hours the RTV video freezing & strobing problems have returned.

On another note, LATV has been added to the WKOB family on 42-4, and there are no problems at all with it's transmission. This has me wondering if the issues with RTV have originated from RTV all this time.

post #13039 of 16600
so, im late to the party here so excuse the question. i just dumped fios and went OTA, antenna on the roof, pointed at 142 deg like tv fool tells me (http://goo.gl/Tuhl) and get great reception on all 3 tivos on the national uhf channels (86 - 99 signal) and about good on the two important hi vhf channels pix and abc (about 65 - 70 signal).

now reading thorough this thread, i am excited for Antenna TV to come and i noticed RTV from you guys (its interesting to me). the channel guide from tivo sees it in my area (not from the antenna, but from tribune), but i get no signal at all.

i live about 20 miles away from NYC with good LOS as you can see. are all the problems you guys are talking about RTV is that its just that underpowered that I wouldn't see it anyway?

ps. cutting the cord was the best thing i ever did.
post #13040 of 16600
Hello Aero 1, I envy you getting just about everything without issues. In regards to RTV on WKOB, do you have an amp and a rotor, (a must)? Also, you didn't say 20 miles from where? If it's Jersey, someone posted there's a transmitter there too. WKOB is very low power however I'm about 14 aerial miles east of Manhattan, and getting it solid all the time, whereas I'm sure you read previously I have many multi-path issues with the other UHF signals.

My complex was wired for Fios a couple of weeks ago, but I elected to stay with Cablevision only because Verizon Fios does not offer Firewire outputs from their Motorola DVR. What didn't you like about Fios? I couldn't survive with OTA only.
post #13041 of 16600
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Originally Posted by DeadFormatLover View Post

Hello Aero 1, I envy you getting just about everything without issues. In regards to RTV on WKOB, do you have an amp and a rotor, (a must)? Also, you didn't say 20 miles from where? If it's Jersey, someone posted there's a transmitter there too. WKOB is very low power however I'm about 14 aerial miles east of Manhattan, and getting it solid all the time, whereas I'm sure you read previously I have many multi-path issues with the other UHF signals.

My complex was wired for Fios a couple of weeks ago, but I elected to stay with Cablevision only because Verizon Fios does not offer Firewire outputs from their Motorola DVR. What didn't you like about Fios? I couldn't survive with OTA only.

Thanks. I am in Totowa NJ, about 20 miles from west of NYC. Hmm, i wonder where that jersey transmitter is but according to tv fool, its at the same azimuth as everything else (this is my tvfool http://goo.gl/Tuhl).

I just started this project so when i was buying my equipment and researching, i bought a wineguard ap 8275 pre amp just in case so i tested it with and without. Since my location and install on the roof resulted in great signal i really didnt need it. So i installed the preamp anyway, followed the directions but nothing worked. no channels worked, i took it off, and everything went back to normal. so i have it here in a box thinking of returning it. dont know if its broken or since my signal is so good that it overloads, but following the simple directions wouldnt make it work. so i just gave up on trying to use it.

As for the rotor, i dont need it, all the channels are mostly at the same azimuth, the important channels anyway. from the tvfool, my DB4 antenna picks everything up (except RTV and one of the 43 PBS stations).

As for Fios, the wife and I really only mostly watch the nationals so it was an easy choice and always DVR'd, nothing live. my 3 tivos i used for Fios are great ota receivers so it wasnt a hard switch. The few Cable shows we watch, are automatically torrented and pushed to a folder on all 3 tivos so there is no viewing shock there. the program pytivo/streambaby does this and its a great tool for tivo. for sports, im doing espn3 and a slingbox at the old mans house. I ripped my dvd's into itunes and use apple tv's to watch old shows and movies...oh, streambaby also sees my itunes library and publishes it as structured folders on the tivo's with full metadata and pictures. and of course, netflix for movies.

a couple of years ago, i used firewire on fios hd receiver and it worked, i never had a fios dvr so i cant comment on that. oh, the other reason is that Fios just started adding CCI flag on their new Hd channel this week, the HUB. there is a lot of complaints on the tivo community forum about this and the rumor has been that fios is going to start CCI flagging cablecard users, which will make multiple tivos useless for MRV.

sorry for the long post, but even though i can afford it, i see no reason to pay $100 for something that the government guarantees us (OTA anyway).

here is my antenna setup if anyone is interested:

post #13042 of 16600
That antenna has no chance of receiving WKOB-LD 2. You need some type of VHF component, particularly low-VHF for WKOB-LD, while the antenna you have is UHF-only.

- Trip
post #13043 of 16600
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

That antenna has no chance of receiving WKOB-LD 2. You need some type of VHF component, particularly low-VHF for WKOB-LD, while the antenna you have is UHF-only.

- Trip

ahh, i thought of that, but since i received a few vhf stations, i just figured. thanks for the info, i just started this project last week and I just learned something new.

Tripp, any recommendations on a low vhf add on?
post #13044 of 16600
Whoa!! Looks like you've got all your bases covered and judging by the photo, excellent OTA location. I'm no expert by any means but it sounds like something is wrong with that amp, no way it should wipe out everything when installed. I would imagine that a rotor would probably get you twice as many channels as you have now with that location!! Ok, after reading what Trip wrote, now I understand why you're only getting ABC & WPIX at about a 65-70 signal strength, there's no way you'll ever get WKOB without a VHF antenna, (and probably a working amp too), unless Trip knows where they are transmitting from in Jersey. Oh yeah, thanks for the feedback about Fios. I could have sworn I read on this forum that folks in other states had DVR's with firewire. Oh well, Cablevision does though they continue not to carry about 6 great HD services that Fios has.
post #13045 of 16600
An antenna like the Antennacraft CS600 will both give you a good chance to receive WKOB-LD as well as improve reception on 7, 11, and 13. Someone else may have another recommendation.

You can use it in combination with your current antenna through use of a UVSJ.

- Trip
post #13046 of 16600
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Originally Posted by DeadFormatLover View Post

Hello Aero 1, I envy you getting just about everything without issues. In regards to RTV on WKOB, do you have an amp and a rotor, (a must)? Also, you didn't say 20 miles from where? If it's Jersey, someone posted there's a transmitter there too. WKOB is very low power however I'm about 14 aerial miles east of Manhattan, and getting it solid all the time, whereas I'm sure you read previously I have many multi-path issues with the other UHF signals.

My complex was wired for Fios a couple of weeks ago, but I elected to stay with Cablevision only because Verizon Fios does not offer Firewire outputs from their Motorola DVR. What didn't you like about Fios? I couldn't survive with OTA only.

What does firewire do for you that is so important?
post #13047 of 16600
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

What does firewire do for you that is so important?

It's the only way to record digital programming either from OTA or Cable to DVHS.
post #13048 of 16600
WKOB's quality and programming is not worth spending money on an antenna. It is they who should be making improvements to reach us.
post #13049 of 16600
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Originally Posted by Greg2600 View Post

WKOB's quality and programming is not worth spending money on an antenna. It is they who should be making improvements to reach us.

i am starting to realize that now that i know the difference in lo and hi vhf and from what trip said about i can boost ABC and WPIX with a vhf antenna, I bought a ClearStream5 to boost the important channels. This nor'eastern hovering over NNJ/NYC right now is screwing with the PIX signal, so I might as well boost the important channels.

so now here is a silly question, will this hi vhf antenna at least possibly boost any lo vhf signals? or is that the reason they sell lo vhf antennas?
post #13050 of 16600
As " DeadFormatLover " has said LATV is on 42-4 good, solid signal, it seems to be better than before, if you like to watch Spanish Silicon girls, have fun.
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