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Anyone still receiving WNJJ-LD 41?

If it's offline, apparently nobody cares, it's been off for about 2 weeks or so...

BIG meanie lol

raj is that the channel that has shopping networks 24/7 ? If it is, I get alltime, 41-2 has blue screen that says error decoding!! raj I want to ask a grounding question, I never ground my antennas, I want to know if is okay to attach grounding wire to a cold water pipe thats outdoors. the epa came around here and I asked them that they said sure, but I know the piple goes into garage from there don't know, let me know what are my options, its difficult to ground antenna around here there is no grass, dirt, only pavement so you what I'm having a tough time lol how are triplets and mom doing.

Why not ground to a solid electrical conduit (if available). That's what cable and satellite installers do. Cold water is an option but not preferred.

Hey nycdigital09,

BOTH low power channel 41s carry shopping networks. But the channel 41 you are receiving is W41DO-D New York, the digital replacement for W60AI. I can only receive this with a trace non-decodable signal. But SD has captured the images of the station and the actual text in the blue box reads, "Video Lock Error" and below that is the call-sign "W41DO-D" which scrolls. This signal problem only exists with 41-2 which typically carries HSN2. 41-1 is operating normally carrying HSN.

You SHOULD ground any rooftop antenna which is outside. If it is inside, it is protected from the elements, especially lightning, so you don't have to.

ok, went to tvfool.com says that wnjj-ld 41 they're signal is too weak here, I do get w41do like giacomo said. friday night was decent tropo ducting. received wtby ch54 religious channel with signal at 90% also got wcct ch20 a wb station, they need to raise the volume, wtnh abc affiliate is coming in with 5.1 dolby. which is about time they caught up

my tvfool report http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e3b257fe7d65a6 I pretty much get everything to down to where it changes to pink on bottom of page, some of them i do get late at night or tropo enhancement.

Hi, I live in the NYC area and just discovered this thread and I thought i'd drop some info.

I dont know if this was mentioned already but I did a recent scan and noticed that ION has set up shop on channel 12.1-12.2- and 12.3. They are working channels but I can barely get a decent signal to see what content is being pushed (picture shows up for 1sec. then cuts off). Though I am able to view for 1 second, I think that on 12.1, ION is broadcasting something different at this time while on 31.1 (their original ch.), its an infomercial. I hope to get a better signal to see whats going on. Logically, I would think its the same thing. Overall, im glad ION is moving closer because I am starting to like their content, especially the weekend movies.

Also, I fount a channel called 10/55 on channel 45.3. This channel is in SD and appears to broadcast dr.phil, wheeloffortune type of shows.

Whats strange is that next door to it, theres a channel listed as 45.13 ( ) that appears to be working with a signal strength of 53 % but the screen remains black.

The antenna that im using is that 3yr old square box shapped RCA indoor antenna and I am apparently 8.4 miles away from the empire state building.

also, for those that are concerned about CBS introducing sub channels soon, I wouldnt worry because NBC 4 does the same yet their NFL games still look and sound great.

jeremiah was a bullfrog, he was a friend of mine, he had mighty finw wine. just kiddin around. ION 31.1 shows the same programming on their repeater 12.1 I do get both channels actually 12.1 comes in way better, theyre signal is aimed northeast of esb, exactly where i am now.

cbs upcoming subchannel has not been announced what they gonna have, but witnessing what abc and nbc has on their sub, is a safe bet that they will show similar programming.

The article I posted a way back. Stated that CBS wanted better stuff that was available currently.

It will be a mix of news, sports and other stuff.

Take a look at WPIX with their signal split 4 ways and tell us if they still look good.

NBC 4 games don't look that good in HD.

anyone have a problem receiving cbs tonight?

my hdhomerun was showing 85% signal strength but 0 signal quality

I know its supposed to be not so good because of the 3 subchannels but the reality is it is still better than a lot of other channels. For example, compare the 10 PM news between 5.1 and 11.1. The PQ on 11.1 is way better. Also compare the Mets games on 11.1 and Fox Sat baseball on 5.1. The PQ on 11.1 is better.

Perhaps my eyes are failing me but the lose in PQ because of the 3 subchannels must be very subtle. I just don't see it as a very significant issue if an issue at all.

While I would like to get the best picture possible I think this issue about subchannels reducing picture quality on the main channel is much to do about nothing. The difference in PQ is so small that I can't even notice it. In fact I bet other factors like the quality of the studio cameras and the transmission signal strength are more important issues. 11.1 has 3 subchannels and its picture quality is much better than 9.1 or 5.1 and as good as 4.1 and 2.1 from what my eyes see. It seems to me some people are sending us HD programming and using low Def cameras and not spending big bucks for the best equipment.

To me since Fox is 720P, PIX almost always looks better in 1080i.

However in comparing Met games, SNY always looks better than games on PIX.

Now as far as NFL games on CBS, I find that the OTA broadcast is slightly better than on Cable. Probably because CBS has no subs. NBC is not too bad, but not as good as CBS.

agree for the most part as far pq goes I watch most ny sports on 46 sony bravia lcd. mikepier is right, cbs pq is best followed nbc, then fox5. fox5 newscast is way better than pix pixs hd sucks imho is degraded by subs is clearly visible. the best hd channel that is noticeable is wnet ch13 even with their 2 subs.

PIX11 has the absolute worse picture. Their channel is unwatchable especially on transitions even during the news. Bitrate for the main HD channel fluctuates between 3 and 10mbps depending on content.

I checked it tonight and 3 anntennas had reception way down from the usual 90% plus! two were in the 70's and the one that usually receives in the mid to upper 90s was in the mid 80s.

Something is going on with their transmission or it is tropo issues. Other stations were fine.

I'm not seeing the issue you are describing at all.

During their primetime coverage, some of their picture, especially when theres heavy action going on , the picture becomes very pixelated (noticeable little boxes popping up that break up the picture a little), but the sound quality on CW I think is great and makes up for the visual lost of the channel.

Every pop, explosion really stands out on CW from what I noticed.

I dont know if this is the right place to post this but as already stated, I live approx. 8 miles away from the Empire State Building here in NYC and I use the 3yr old RCA flat indoor non amp. antenna as my main antenna. I also live on the top floor of my building which is floor number 4. For the 3 yrs now, no matter where I move the antenna, from the window to on top of the TV, I can never get a signal strength greater than 60%. I'm still able to get 50+ channels and a picture.

My promblem is that, whenever an airplane goes over the house or when the wind blows very strongly , my picture breaks up. Why is that and how do I stop this from occurring?

The other day I fount and plugged in an old VHF/UHF amp. antenna that magically boost the signal strength to 90% but the problem of picture breakup still occurs.

but i dont think CBS will go with 4 other subs. One here said NBC football games dont look good in HD, I disagree. I think their picture is great and clear even though they have 2 other sub channels. I wouldnt worry about CBS lossing a bunch of quality when they do go sub.

And maybe they wont even bother with subs. They said they plan on releasing during Q3. Well Q3 ends in the coming weeks and up to now no subs.

I'm going to be in New Jersey for an interview overnight Monday night-Tuesday morning, though in a different place than normal. I'm going to be trying in particular to get updated TSReader data for WKOB-LD, WLNY-CD, and W41DO-D. I'm also going to shoot for WLNY's main signal, but that would be via DX. I'm also going to look for the identical siblings (26/32/35/whatever) if they're on the air and WBQM-LD 3/WPXO-LD 34 though I don't expect to have luck with them.

Anything else I should look for while I'm in the area?

- Trip

I'm more interested in your FTA feature that you mentioned on your site. I'm thinking about making it a spring project and there is so much, non consolidated information out there that is not friendly to beginners as you experienced with those FTA forums.

as with my last springs project, going OTA only, i want to try FTA...just because i can

Hehe, sounds good. I'm going to PM you with a link to what I have so far.

- Trip

"One here said NBC football games dont look good in HD, I disagree. I think their picture is great and clear even though they have 2 other sub channels. I wouldnt worry about CBS lossing a bunch of quality when they do go sub."

It depends upon how good your HDTV receiver is and how discerning you are as a viewer. As a professional in the business, CBS clearly outshines NBC! It's a pity that CBS is succumbing and will be degrading its gorgeous pictures to transmit programming, more than likely of questionable appeal!

WHat is FTA?

could not receive most of my stations, the nyc station technician must of being screwing with us last night, here is my theory we experienced a time warp that rips into the fabric of time and space. that has opposite effect of tropo ducting. sort of dead zone effect