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Too soon to judge NJTV. Give it time before u say it sucks or its great.

I agree. I will reserve judgement till Oct.

In other New York City area DTV news, WRNN-TV Kingston, channel 48, has altered its sub-channel offerings.

On July 1, 2011, the station added a fourth sub-channel, "WRNN-D4" for the first time. GCN, the Christian religious broadcaster whose programming is seen 24/7 over the primary channel of WEBR-CD Manhattan, had announced they were expanding their coverage area by entering into an LMA with WRNN L.P., and the result was their programming would be seen 24/7 over channel 48-4. This agreement has apparently fallen through after one month.

Effective August 1, 2011, channel 48-4 is carrying Suroyo TV, an Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac satellite television channel which broadcasts from their studios in Södertälje, Sweden. Suroyo TV features programming for the Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac people and their cultural heritage, history and language. Currently, it has a wide-range of programs ranging from programs designed for children, political and cultural debates to sports programs, from historical documentaries to religious and national events and from film reviews to musical (Syriac songs with video clips) and educational programs. Further, with its daily news programs that are broadcast in Syriac (eastern and western dialects) as well as in Arabic, it is an alternative news channel that is serving the members of the Assyrian/Chaldean/Syriac community that are scattered all around the world.

WRNN-TV has also dropped Mega TV from 48-2. The eclectic spanish TV station had featured a television simulcast of WSKQ-FM New York's "El Vacilón de la Manana" morning show, heard weekdays over 97.9FM. Replacing it, also effective August 1, is Al Jazeera English, the world's first English-language news channel headquartered in the Middle East which broadcasts news features and analysis, documentaries, live debates, current affairs, business, technology, and sports. Al Jazeera English will air 23 hours a day, 7 days a week. WRNN will program one hour per day with local programming. That local program will likely be a rebroadcast of "Richard French Live", a news/political affairs program hosted by the station owner.

thanks for update gio, too bad megatv got drop, i kind of liked their burlesque shows, interesting that al jazeera tv is gonna be showned,

A presently "dark" (legally off-the-air) New York City Class A Television station on channel 46 has been sold for $5,250,000.

WMBQ-CA New York had been broadcasting in Analog on channel 46 up until a few months ago. It had been one of the last two Analog stations in New York, the other being WNYZ-LP, channel 6, which is still on-the-air.

Programming had consisted of the Christian broadcast and satellite television network based in Wall, PA., Cornerstone TeleVision Network, which aired 24/7 on WMBQ-CA channel 46 and co-owned WBQM-LD Brooklyn, channel 3, under a LMA agreement.

Craig L. Fox's Renard Broadcasting, present owners of WMBQ-CA, had filed paperwork with the fcc for an STA to go dark temporarily while digital transmitting facilities for channel 46 were constructed. The plans then called for a flash-cut to digital operation.

The new owners will be Prime Time Partners LLC. The major forces behind Prime Time are Jose Rodriguez and Marisol Messir. Messir has interests in full power television stations in Oxnard CA and Kingman AZ, and a low power in Phoenix AZ.

Renard will likely retain the channel 3 station for now, which has had an outstanding cp to move to channel 50 for at least a couple of years now.

An article which offers some more details on this can be found here: Class A television sold in the Big Apple.

The other nice thing about this sale is that the sale price indicates that the incentives to broadcasters to "vacate" their spectrum will have to be considerably higher than what the fcc would prefer. Channel 46 is in the targeted spectrum and does not have must-carry status, which would significantly augment its value. One can only speculate how much a full-power Digital TV station with must-carry status would command

Ch.47-1 register at ch.36-3 and stays there, does not go to 47-1
Amazing 68-1,2 Telefutura used to have strongest signal, now even pixelation comes and 41 ch. is getting stronger

Channel 41 will be getting a new sub channel this month. classic TV series and telenovelas from Televisa Mexico. In September they'll add another sub channel called Univision noticias (24 hour news channel).

Query: What is the source of this information? I'd heard of the networks previously, but without confirmation about whether or not they would be available over the air.

- Trip

I saw this yesterday and today at 3 pm it is fine.

I must make a correction on this item I posted:

My reception of WRNN-TV is intermittent. Depending on atmospherics, my reception can be quite good, but it is typically a very poor signal which cannot be decoded. If atmospherics are right, reception time for this station is usually best between 2AM and sunrise.

Due to the size and location of my antenna I cannot rotate it sufficiently to receive WRNN-TV. And even if I could, I would risk losing other TV stations and the programming offered on channel 48 is not worth that risk, IMHO.

The night before I posted this, I did observe Suroyo TV on 48-4. However, when the signal was coming in two nights ago, GCN was once again on 48-4.

My guess here is that this was a technical problem at WRNN and that the Suroyo TV airing was accidental.


I have observed this a few times before. This issue seems isolated to WNJU Linden.

What is supposed to happen when you tune into WNJU, is the PSIP reads 47-1 and the program guide information is present. On several occasions, there has been an apparent malfunction of the PSIP causing the display to revert to the actual RF channel number of 36-3, and there is no program guide information. One time this lasted nearly an entire week.

Perhaps Trip In VA would be able to explain best what is happening on these occasions.

im able to get wrnn 48.1 when i turn my antenna rotor towards it's signal. like you mentioned al jazeera tv is showing. let me ask you what type of antenna are using that your not able to lockin wrnn. wnju ch47 problem sounds like a bad psip

Still nothing here that is of interest to me.

I wish the FCC could/would pull the plug on the 24 hour a day holy rollers and infomercials that litter television. A total waste of of bandwidth.

Yea I can not get those channels.

PS can you see my posts?

Hey nycdigital09,
My antenna would have no problem receiving it were it pointed towards the signal. I cannot make the adjustment as it is quite large and confined in an attic where space is quite limited. Plus, doing so would cost me stations that would not justify the move.

The fcc wants to pull the plug on ALL broadcast television Your "wish" is an irresponsible statement.

Ironically, it was the fcc who opened the door to wall-to-wall infomercial broadcasting in 1984 by eliminating regulations limiting the amount of advertising that could appear during an hour of television which were established in the 1950s and 1960s to govern the commercial content of television.

While WRNN-TV and its sub-channels may not presently be offering anything that interests you, there are probably many viewers who would find their programming quite enjoyable and interesting. Hopefully they are watching, and if not, they are purchasing the necessary equipment and installing it so they can take advantage of the eclectic choices and huge variety ALL free OTA Digital TV has to offer.

While I concur that some broadcasters could and should offer much better programming than infomercials, let us not forget that infomercials make up the bulk of programming on practically every basic/family PAY cable channel in the early morning hours. One will not escape infomercials by paying a pay TV provider.

Any news on the new CBS sub channel?

Is kind of hard to imagine, I still remember clearly back in 1980's when I just got cable television, that most cable channels like usa network A&E networks and others did not show commercials during their programming. it was truly advertisement free television. you paid for cable tv and you got your money's worth no commericals. only the premium networks are the only channels that can do this now. ei hbo and showtime.
informercials its a sure fire proof way to bring in revenue for most tv channels, like or not they gonna be around for a long time.

no, but if cbs does well with their subs, possible that fox will follow suit
giacomo read your comments at wkob site, kob should be getting some new shows to add to their lineup soon, btw is that your mug small pic?

Any news on the CBS fill in translator in Plainview at the WLIW tower?

That is true

hey by the way ever get my pm? Did you ever email me? Seems the PMs are broken here. Something I want to discuss with ya.

Hardly.

After having good reception of the Yankee game tonight, it peter'd out shortly before 9 PM and hasn't come back at all yet. Checking my strength meter, it's pretty much @ zero with an occasional bump up to a lousy 81%

Meanwhile, 7,11 and 13 are all very strong -- stronger than usual.

MY9 just plain sucks.

Almost as much as Burnett does.

It's 9:14 PM now. I guess this site is on Mars time.

It's perfect for me.

Yea, I've heard that tune before -- From Randolph.

I dunno what the deal is but it SUCKS for me. And since I think 11 and 13 are also on the ESB (is that right?) it makes no sense that I'd be getting them strong and MY9 virtually not at all.

Except that MY9 is RF 38 and the other stations I referred to are all VHF. That's certainly true. I suppose that could have something to do with it.

They shouldn't be changing their signal direction, right?

And now, at 9:35-ish, it's trying to come back for me and I am getting some reception again.

And just when the Yanks are mounting a comeback (maybe).

Unfortunately, it went out just before the ump threw Scioscia out of the game, so I missed it.

I hate when that happens.

Anyway, thanks for the info.

Edit 9:40 PM: How about that! They DID come back. And I got to see it. And I'm now losing reception again. I guess it's just that I'm right on the edge. Hopefully it will hang with me for awhile longer.

T-max dude, I tihink that your reception woes are from a nearby man made problem, they way your signal goes out at exactly 9 pm tells me that your reception of my9 is been hampered probably by nearby fm station or another station close by that happens to go on air at that time. any luck with the emails to my9? by checking google topography there are lots of radio tower and fm broadcasting from your area. try plugging in fm filter adapter on your coax good luck

T-max:

Your problems are likely more complex than merely FM overload or multipath or wrong antenna or faulty cabling or anything that any of us can casually suggest as a cure from across the internet. However, I want to echo NYCDigital's suggestion of installing an FM trap. In fact, I just took a look at your FM reception via TV Fool's sister-site, fmfool.com, and it would seem that you have a pretty strong FM station three miles away and right in your line-of-site to the Empire State Building. Just for the sake of ruling out pre-amplifier or tuner overload from the FM signal, I'd want an aggressive FM-trap or filter in line from the antenna, and before any pre-amp or distribution amp that you might have in your setup.

I found that most of the FM traps weren't aggressive enough for my needs - I have a strong FM station on 88.1, which wasn't attenuated at all by my pre-amp's FM trap due to proximity to TV channel 6. So I ended up using a Hi-Low Splitter/Joiner (HLSJ) from Pico-Macom, and terminating the low-side to create an FM trap that drops off very aggressively below channel 7. See:

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...Splitters&sku=

I suspect that this won't solve your problem, but it will eliminate most realistic concerns about overload from commercial FM and local government sources. On the other hand, it *might* solve the whole problem for you.

More likely, though, it will just eliminate one big variable in the whole equation. For six bucks plus the cost of a terminator plug, I'd try it.

T-max:

Here's another thought for you: you're right near the mall, right? Does the mall's security team use two-way radios? Most do, and they're most likely in the VHF range below channel 7. That'd be one more reason to try to eliminate any unnecessary signal below channel 7.

Try that HLSJ as an FM filter.

Like others said, FM trap is good to have but that WILL NOT fix your WWOR problem. If anything FM stations affect VHF channels only which are in the 50-220mhz range. WWOR 38 is in the 630mhz range. But since you say you have no problems with 7 & 11 then FM is not your problem.

Thanks to all who made suggestions as to my problem with MY9.

rothe, I'm probably at least a mile away from the Mall (as the crow flies), so I don't know if the two-way radio effect would cause what I'm seeing. Plus it's not all that intermittent. I lose signal for periods of time, then it comes back for periods of time.

nyctveng, I see you didn't take my suggestion on editing quotes. Sigh.

Anyway, thanks for your suggestions. But note that my reception doesn't always go out at 9 PM, or any other given time. But see my ch 7 problem below.

Also, it's not just a MY9 problem, although MY9 is the worst. I have an overall NYC problem which I think is caused by the ridge between me and NYC (and I'm too close to the ridge).

One recurring problem (maybe) that I have had in the past 3 weeks is with ch 7. I record Da Vinci on Mondays @ 1:35 to 2:35 AM. In the past 3 weeks, I had the same sort of problem in weeks 1 and 3. Which is that I lost signal after what amounts to almost exactly 25 minutes into recording. So that would be just a few minutes before 2 AM (I start recording a few minutes early). Up to then I have solid reception. After that, I had virtually no reception -- although I did have reception for a few minutes here and there on both nights.

Week 2 had solid reception throughout, and that has been the norm since I've been recording this show for many months now.

My ch 7 reception is very strong and very solid. Other than the problems I've had with my recordings, I have never seen any other loss of signal problems with 7. That includes during the hour or more before I start my recording, when I sometimes monitor it during Grey's Anatomy, which runs two back to back episodes prior to Da Vinci.

I hope I'm not getting hooked on that stupid show.

So I suspect maybe that particular ch 7 problem is a maintainence deal? Are they choosing to do some maintenance work at around 2 AM? Perhaps they are wary of pissing off the Grey's crowd and figure the Da Vinci crowd is far less influential, so they're sticking it to them. For all I know, I'm the only guy interested in it.

Because it does seem odd that I'd have such very strong reception and then just lose it completely for extended periods of time.

But like I say, I'm in a very iffy spot for NYC reception. So all this could just be some atmospheric situation or other. Because I can see where I might be getting some reflected NYC signal making it over the ridge and getting to me -- if that kind of thing happens with these TV signals, that is.

And as to MY9, that IS my weakest NYC station -- other than WNEW. That one, @ RF 44, is a total no go for me. I've locked it in once or twice but never have gotten an actual picture. At least, not since the transition. Prior to that I used to get it, but it was still quite weak.

So given MY9's weak signal for me, it stands to reason that any kind of disruption in its signal would tend to cut me off completely. I can stand a little loss on ch 7 without it affecting me, but even a little bit of a loss of MY9's signal is going to be fatal for me.

Which is just another reason I say that MY9 sucks.

THEY NEED TO PUT OUT MORE POWER!!

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max, maybe is time to ditch your ratshack monster and get a 91xg/ ya1713 combo. I'm t using that setup and it pulls in the fringe stations. plus it lightweight on the rotor