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post #15721 of 17106
Thank you Giacomo for the alert, the 46-1 shows so far only Infomercials - sell, sale, you buy, nothing else but sell, the Signal level on scale of 3 units strength -Weak-Normal-Good shows better than Normal, 704x480i 30 Hz DolbyStereo.
The other 3 streams, 46-2,3,4 as Giacomo has said, shows only color bars.
post #15722 of 17106
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Originally Posted by jpru34 View Post

Does this mean that reception will improve for people in North Jersey or am I not understanding?

For what it's worth, WLNY-CD (45-1) is now dead.... My research shows that the repeaters were NOT part of the sale to CBS.

I can no longer receive WLNY programming in extreme Western Nassau County.


Cheers!
-Doug
post #15723 of 17106
Yes, no signal on 45.1 - recently, it had already changed its call sign
to WMUN-CD while it was still simulcasting WLNY-DT.

Wonder what the new owners plan to do with this very valuable real estate.
post #15724 of 17106
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Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post

For what it's worth, WLNY-CD (45-1) is now dead.... My research shows that the repeaters were NOT part of the sale to CBS.

I can no longer receive WLNY programming in extreme Western Nassau County.


Cheers!
-Doug

Why would they take off 45.1?

I thought they announced NO changes except more news
post #15725 of 17106
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

Why would they take off 45.1?

I thought they announced NO changes except more news

CBS doesn't need 45-1 (they have WCBS-DT), so they didn't buy it. But since they no longer own it, they aren't repeating WLNY-DT on it anymore..

Maybe they eventually bring WLNY to a WCBS-DT sub-channel down the road... but for the meantime, 45-1 is dark.


Cheers!
-Doug
post #15726 of 17106
So I recently got an indoor/outdoor antenna (the one on sale at 1saleaday.com winegard... Something) and it seems very moody. First off, there's seemingly no way to get 2 or 4. Sometimes 5-13 work flawlessly and sometimes their a little choppy and I reposition it which might work for one channel but then screws up some other channel/s.

Its RIGHT by the window on the second floor is it really worth the effort to mount it outside?
post #15727 of 17106
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Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post

CBS doesn't need 45-1 (they have WCBS-DT), so they didn't buy it. But since they no longer own it, they aren't repeating WLNY-DT on it anymore..

Maybe they eventually bring WLNY to a WCBS-DT sub-channel down the road... but for the meantime, 45-1 is dark.


Cheers!
-Doug

So why buy WLNY if they planed to take down 45.1 Some people liked that channel.

Man I hate mergers for this reason
post #15728 of 17106
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post


So why buy WLNY if they planed to take down 45.1 Some people liked that channel.

Man I hate mergers for this reason

CBS bought 55 to reach all the cable and satellite homes.
post #15729 of 17106
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

CBS bought 55 to reach all the cable and satellite homes.

Speaking of. 10/55 is STILL on the AIR on Cable.

Why would they hurt OTA people?

Did they sell 45.1? Or just give it up?
post #15730 of 17106
CBS bought only WLNY, Channel 10/55 - Digital Channel 47.1 out of Riverhead, NY.

The other stations that carried the programming - Morristown, NJ; Mineola, NY and Stamford, CT were sold separately and will no longer have any connection with WLNY.
post #15731 of 17106
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post


Speaking of. 10/55 is STILL on the AIR on Cable.

Why would they hurt OTA people?

Did they sell 45.1? Or just give it up?

Why wouldn't it be on cable? Most or all have a direct fiber feed from either WLNY facility in LI or CBS on West 57 St. The OTA transmitter is very powerful and covers most of LI, eastern Queens, southern CT. Sure they will lose some OTA viewers but a such a small percentage that it probably wasn't worth buying or leasing the translators.
post #15732 of 17106
Hey AloEuro,
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Originally Posted by AloEuro View Post

Thank you Giacomo for the alert, the 46-1 shows so far only Infomercials - sell, sale, you buy, nothing else but sell, the Signal level on scale of 3 units strength -Weak-Normal-Good shows better than Normal, 704x480i 30 Hz DolbyStereo. The other 3 streams, 46-2,3,4 as Giacomo has said, shows only color bars.

You're welcome! But 46-1 isn't entirely infomercials. Check it out at 6:30AM each morning. The 6:30AM-7:30AM hour is quite unique and a partial throwback to WMBQ's ownership under Craig L. Fox
post #15733 of 17106
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

So why buy WLNY if they planed to take down 45.1 Some people liked that channel.

Man I hate mergers for this reason

WLNY is still broadcasting, but only on their original transmitter out east. The repeaters were not sold, so they won't be carrying WLNY programming anymore. You can only receive it OTA on 55.1 (RF 47) or via cable / satellite.

As I posted earlier, MAYBE WLNY programming gets put on WCBS-DT3 or something.....

Cheers!
-Doug
post #15734 of 17106
The three repeaters were sold, but not to CBS, they were sold to
Local Media TV Holding.

Highly doubtful WLNY programming will show up on a WCBS subchannel -
2.2 is enough!!!!
post #15735 of 17106
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

The three repeaters were sold, but not to CBS, they were sold to
Local Media TV Holding.

Highly doubtful WLNY programming will show up on a WCBS subchannel -
2.2 is enough!!!!

Some people watched 45.1 what a shame this is. They could of used 45.1 for TVGOS lol
post #15736 of 17106
Just wanted to provide an update.

1. I tried using the Radio Shack RF Interference filter Cat# 150025. It did not help at all. it did not block or even reduce the interference.

2. Another suggestion was to try a VHF HI/Lo band separator. I tried the Blonder Tongue VHF Hi/Lo band separator ZHL5J. It too failed to suppress the RF interference. The idea was it might be on the low VHF and by seperating it out I could get a good picture on the high VHF band.

So it looks like I have run out of options for the time being until I get 5 newly modified LED patio/walkway lights. On that note I have recently received another email from Malibu Lighting actually apologizing for the delay and explaining that a shipment of lights to their engineer who will be fixing the problem was delayed.

Over the past 6 months I have been in touch with 3 companies about various OTA issues. They are CBS, ROVI, and Malibu Lighting. The only one that has never gotten back in touch with me after 2 emails was CBS. For that I would give them an F in customer service.
post #15737 of 17106
WLNY has a new logo with the WLNY call letters in a white sphere. The numbers 10 and 55 are just to the right, one above the other with a line in between. They have also announced a 9pm newscast that will begin a few months as well as a 7am program that will be "unique" to this area. Newscasts will originate in NYC and will include segmentss with Richard Rose from Long Island.
post #15738 of 17106
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Originally Posted by NYC View Post

WLNY has a new logo with the WLNY call letters in a white sphere. The numbers 10 and 55 are just to the right, one above the other with a line in between. They have also announced a 9pm newscast that will begin a few months as well as a 7am program that will be "unique" to this area. Newscasts will originate in NYC and will include segmentss with Richard Rose from Long Island.

http://www.broadcastingcable.com/art...NY_Top_Job.php

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...sEnabled=false

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowln...wscasts_b57108
post #15739 of 17106
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Originally Posted by NYC View Post

WLNY has a new logo with the WLNY call letters in a white sphere. The numbers 10 and 55 are just to the right, one above the other with a line in between. They have also announced a 9pm newscast that will begin a few months as well as a 7am program that will be "unique" to this area. Newscasts will originate in NYC and will include segmentss with Richard Rose from Long Island.

How does this help OTA. They shut down a captive audience. Now with Cable channel 10/55 just blends in. I do not need them for news. That is what cnn is for and a bunch of other channels.

What a shame this is. Are we sure 45.1 is down for good?
post #15740 of 17106
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

How does this help OTA. They shut down a captive audience. Now with Cable channel 10/55 just blends in. I do not need them for news. That is what cnn is for and a bunch of other channels.

What a shame this is. Are we sure 45.1 is down for good?

Did you forget that their primary transmitter on LI still reaches a lot of households even if YOU can't pick it up. It helps LI OTA households that don't subscribe to cable and can't get News12 or CNN. Sorry changes that stations make don't revolve around just your needs.
post #15741 of 17106
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

Did you forget that their primary transmitter on LI still reaches a lot of households even if YOU can't pick it up. It helps LI OTA households that don't subscribe to cable and can't get News12 or CNN. Sorry changes that stations make don't revolve around just your needs.

The existing transmitter is north of Riverhead. It barely makes it into Nassau County. 45.1 was my only vehicle for receiving this programming.

Yeah, it reaches a lot of households. But it lost more than half of the households it reached before the sale.

Cheers!
-Doug
post #15742 of 17106
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

Did you forget that their primary transmitter on LI still reaches a lot of households even if YOU can't pick it up. It helps LI OTA households that don't subscribe to cable and can't get News12 or CNN. Sorry changes that stations make don't revolve around just your needs.

Not my needs. The elderly needs. Also how much could a repeater really cost?

CBS promised no changes except more news. This is a HUGE change
post #15743 of 17106
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

Did you forget that their primary transmitter on LI still reaches a lot of households even if YOU can't pick it up. It helps LI OTA households that don't subscribe to cable and can't get News12 or CNN. Sorry changes that stations make don't revolve around just your needs.

If CBS2 is going to promote tuning in to TV 10-55, would it not make sense for it to be available in the same areas as WCBS? WLNY's signal does not reach New York City and it is not even on some cable systems to the north and west. There was some speculation here about new technology to extend the coverage area -- any new details there?

By the way, WLNY will carry high school sports on Saturday afternoons this month. They also have an animated promo that explains the WLNY call letters -- We Love New York! And New Jersey and Connecticut too.

Here's the newest addition to the news department: http://libn.com/files/2012/04/WLNY_van.jpg
post #15744 of 17106
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Originally Posted by NYC View Post


If CBS2 is going to promote tuning in to TV 10-55, would it not make sense for it to be available in the same areas as WCBS? WLNY's signal does not reach New York City and it is not even on some cable systems to the north and west. There was some speculation here about new technology to extend the coverage area -- any new details there?

By the way, WLNY will carry high school sports on Saturday afternoons this month. They also have an animated promo that explains the WLNY call letters -- We Love New York! And New Jersey and Connecticut too.

Here's the newest addition to the news department: http://libn.com/files/2012/04/WLNY_van.jpg

My guess and speculation is that WLNY is in "soft launch" mode right now and will do more promoting as they update the on air look and programming. Theres existing technology to extend coverage area and it's not new. Many of the cable systems in the NYC area have regional headends and share some local feeds with other non competing cable companies. Since WLNY's master control is now on West 57th, any provider with an existing fiber feed of WCBS can add WLNY with some additional equipment.When deals with carriage of WCBS on a cable system are set to expire, you can bet CBS will look to gain carriage of WLNY in areas it's not already carried.
post #15745 of 17106
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

My guess and speculation is that WLNY is in "soft launch" mode right now and will do more promoting as they update the on air look and programming. Theres existing technology to extend coverage area and it's not new. Many of the cable systems in the NYC area have regional headends and share some local feeds with other non competing cable companies. Since WLNY's master control is now on West 57th, any provider with an existing fiber feed of WCBS can add WLNY with some additional equipment.When deals with carriage of WCBS on a cable system are set to expire, you can bet CBS will look to gain carriage of WLNY in areas it's not already carried.

So how was WLNY was in NYC? Why would CBS change/cancel, if they will try to gain carriage? They had NYC.
post #15746 of 17106
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Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post

The existing transmitter is north of Riverhead. It barely makes it into Nassau County. 45.1 was my only vehicle for receiving this programming.

Yeah, it reaches a lot of households. But it lost more than half of the households it reached before the sale.

Cheers!
-Doug

Much more then half. NYC is much denser in population then LI.
post #15747 of 17106
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

Much more then half. NYC is much denser in population then LI.

Densely populated areas with high rises especially Manhattan have historically had a higher penetration of cable/satellite customers than outer boros and suburbs therefore shutting off a LP translator may be a lost of a few OTA viewers but has little to no impact on reported ratings. How many people here have actually ever been a Nielson HH? The LP signal may have covered many homes but how many actually watched?

The main transmittern on LI is very powerful as claimed in this article:

http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/...-signal/202471
post #15748 of 17106
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

Densely populated areas with high rises especially Manhattan have historically had a higher penetration of cable/satellite customers than outer boros and suburbs therefore shutting off a LP translator may be a lost of a few OTA viewers but has little to no impact on reported ratings. How many people here have actually ever been a Nielson HH? The LP signal may have covered many homes but how many actually watched?

The main transmittern on LI is very powerful as claimed in this article:

http://www.tvtechnology.com/article/...-signal/202471

The point and question is WHY did they get rid of a great repeater?
post #15749 of 17106
because cbs didnt buy it they just bought only wlny. but im 65% sure that cbs will put a transmitter in manhattan to cover the rest of the tri-state.
KCAL 9 in LA is sister station to KCBS 2 in LA and the WLNY new logo looks just like the KCAL logo
post #15750 of 17106
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Originally Posted by NYC View Post


If CBS2 is going to promote tuning in to TV 10-55, would it not make sense for it to be available in the same areas as WCBS? WLNY's signal does not reach New York City and it is not even on some cable systems to the north and west. There was some speculation here about new technology to extend the coverage area -- any new details there?

By the way, WLNY will carry high school sports on Saturday afternoons this month. They also have an animated promo that explains the WLNY call letters -- We Love New York! And New Jersey and Connecticut too.

Here's the newest addition to the news department: http://libn.com/files/2012/04/WLNY_van.jpg

What's the truck doing on W 56th street in Manhatten?
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