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post #15841 of 17106
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Originally Posted by George Molnar View Post

If they have already experimented with LED fixtures on ESB, as the picture seems to indicate, has anyone traced DTV interference to this testing? (I realize that complete conversion could create more interference than just the test fixtures.)

I believe the testing was done in 2007 BEFORE the digital conversion. I could be wrong, I am not sure and did not check the previous discussion about it on this forum. My ancient memory may be failing me.
post #15842 of 17106
Clear or cloudy days are not really predictors of reception from my experience. There are cloudy and rainy days where I have had great reception and days without a cloud where my reception has been only fair.

Don't worry about it too much. There is a site that give troposhere reports that many say helps them predict reception issues. You can easily google it.
post #15843 of 17106
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Originally Posted by NYC View Post

Estrella appears to be off of WPIX, as Antenna TV is on both 11.2 and 11.4.

On Cablevision, ch 115 still has Estrella as usual. However channel 114, Antenna TV, is blank with no sound. Go figure!


11-2 is now Antenna TV. 11-4 is off the air. I supppose that means possible increasd bandwidth now that they've lost on sub channel.
post #15844 of 17106
Has anyone heard them say a decision was made not to include the TV mast on the new WTC?

A Chicago station had a news story that without the TV mast, the new WTC would not be taller than Sears/Willis and Trump Tower in Chicago.
post #15845 of 17106
The question is whether the antenna mast would be sheathed within an architectural
spire. If it is, the "official" keepers of building heights would consider the spire/mast part of the building's overall height. To save money, the building's owners are now talking about just an antenna mast without the spire sheath. That would then not count in the building's height. That's the latest.
post #15846 of 17106
The radome has been nixed. The official reason being that it would be too difficult to maintain but I believe there were other issues, mechanical and electrical.
The spire will be built, but the only committed antennas I'm aware of are communication/microwave antennas at the base of the spire.
The broadcasters face financial and technical considerations on 1WTC.
On the technical side, not all broadcasters can be certain that their channel will be kept after the repacking so they cannot optimize their antennas, because the channel/height/gain is critical for the few miles around the building, especially for mobile and hand-held devices.
post #15847 of 17106
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Originally Posted by DTVintermods View Post

The radome has been nixed. The official reason being that it would be too difficult to maintain but I believe there were other issues, mechanical and electrical.
The spire will be built, but the only committed antennas I'm aware of are communication/microwave antennas at the base of the spire.
The broadcasters face financial and technical considerations on 1WTC.
On the technical side, not all broadcasters can be certain that their channel will be kept after the repacking so they cannot optimize their antennas, because the channel/height/gain is critical for the few miles around the building, especially for mobile and hand-held devices.

From what I've been able to research, the reason that the sheath has been eliminated has to do with cost - a saving of approximately $20 million.

I doubt that after all these years that "mechanical and electrical" issues were
truly the problems. From the very beginning of the building's design, Daniel Libeskind had the concept that a spire should top the structure reaching 1776feet - hence its first name "Freedom Tower." The spire from the very onset of the project was designed to meet broadcast industry's needs.

As of this time, the "spire" will not be built - an antenna will be built.

It's the Council on Tall Buildings & Urban Habitat, an international body that sets the standards of what is and what is not counted in the total height of a building. Spires are part of the architecture of a building - an antenna is not.

It's a pity that after all the delays, squabbles and politics that the Durst Organization is nickle and diming the project and preventing some well deserved civic pride in New Yorkers once again having the country's tallest building!
post #15848 of 17106
WCBS 2.2 seems to be out of sync?

Also for the antenna on 1WTC I wonder how much more it will help with the elevation.
post #15849 of 17106
The problems with this station go deeper than being out of sync.

Frames are missing from the picture - there's a jerkiness - look at scenes that fade from one to the other - totally screwed up!

No one at WCBS is minding the store!

Ther president of the CBS Stations Division, who is also the president of Channel 2,
has been informed of 2.2's problems for months - and nothing has been done!

When the station first swtiched to 16:9 aspect ratio, the picture has been distorted.

If 4.2 can at least technically get its 16:9 act together, where's WCBS?

The station is a disgrace coming from the flagship of the CBS Television Network!
post #15850 of 17106
Ok I thought it was just me with the frames because my signal can go crazy when the wind is blowing.. It's a shame really.. I really don't watch the station like that I just happened to know when a family member switched to it and told me about it.
post #15851 of 17106
You're not missing anything!
post #15852 of 17106
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

You're not missing anything!

CBS took what might have been a good idea and screwed it up. You would get more up to date news, weather and sports if you tuned in to 1010 wins or CBS 880 radio stations.

Lets say it is 11 PM and you wanted to get the scores for the Yankee and Mets games that ended an hour ago. Forget about it. YOu will find out about those games sometime around mid day the next day......if you are lucky.
post #15853 of 17106
And to think some on here were asking on an almost daily basis when this mess would start up.
post #15854 of 17106
Be careful of what you wish for!
post #15855 of 17106
1. I dislike reality tv intensely, & wasn't cbs' "Survivor" the one that started it all? I can not beLIEVE cbs is #1! I never ever watch it except for Comics Unleashed (old rerun show) & certain 60 minutes segments that interest me, & this season's 60 min has been the worse - i maybe watched 4 or 5 segments. This channel has no PRO--> baseball or basketball (remember free NBA on CBS?) or hockey, virtually no movies - I checked last saturday afternoon - several infomercials & NO SPORTS!!
Even their flagship wcbs radio station is annoying, repeating "wcbs" a million times over & over way too often, & way too many commercials. Current Hawaii 5-0 is a FAR CRY from the 60's classic - to think i watched soooo many programs on this channel in the 60's & now it's virtually useless to me.
News news news! Thank goodness for THIS network & antenna tv.
2. WNET newark is the closest tv station to me - I am in Garfield NJ. So how come channel 13.1 sometimes comes in & sometimes not? No pattern I can't figure out when it goes out - has nothing to do with the weather. How could this channel so close to me have so little power? - even less than Hot tv 42.3 lol. & they expect me to support it? Nope - I'll support WNJN 50.1. That always comes in with my rabbit ears. Sorry WNET & no on screen program description either. & some movies with the F word in it!! Or they used to show those - I stopped watching after encountering 3 movies like that. DISGRACEFUL!! WNJN & WLIW show no such movies. I hope wnet goes under - kids could be/have been watching!!
post #15856 of 17106
WCBS 2.2 can hardly be viewed on my 19" tube set (which is STILL perfect for antenna tv, bounce, THIS & HOTTV channels.)
Why is channel 2.2 such a NARROW RECTANGLE? - height is so short?
If I try to watch it on my 19" tube set in letterbox, it is VERY hard to see the small print - u gotta sit 2 feet in front of the screen
& if I switch to full screen or zoom, the print on the right goes off the screen - it barely fits on letterbox setting.
FOX is another winner - they love to put the football & other pro scorebox all the way to the left, so I can't see them in full screen mode. even on 32" tube set. Sister station MY9 & the other OTA channels do not do this - they put the score box in the middle of the screen.
Man. if cbs & fox go off the air I will celebrate more than people who won the lottery. CK OUT ALL THE INFOMERCIALS ON FOX SATURDAY MORNING - GREAT FOR THE KIDS.
post #15857 of 17106
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Originally Posted by RichNorthNJ View Post

WCBS 2.2 can hardly be viewed on my 19" tube set (which is STILL perfect for antenna tv, bounce, THIS & HOTTV channels.)
Why is channel 2.2 such a NARROW RECTANGLE? - height is so short?
If I try to watch it on my 19" tube set in letterbox, it is VERY hard to see the small print - u gotta sit 2 feet in front of the screen
& if I switch to full screen or zoom, the print on the right goes off the screen - it barely fits on letterbox setting.
FOX is another winner - they love to put the football & other pro scorebox all the way to the left, so I can't see them in full screen mode. even on 32" tube set. Sister station MY9 & the other OTA channels do not do this - they put the score box in the middle of the screen.
Man. if cbs & fox go off the air I will celebrate more than people who won the lottery. CK OUT ALL THE INFOMERCIALS ON FOX SATURDAY MORNING - GREAT FOR THE KIDS.

For CRT TV we use the ZOOM feature on the converter. Yes you lose some of the sides. Yest you can then see a full screen. It is a compromise.
post #15858 of 17106
I am now officially OTA, just called Cablevision and told them to discontinue my basic cable TV service (which will require a cable box starting tomorrow). So far all seems well, my antenna (which I fully grounded this last weekend) delivers all of the major broadcast channels to all of my TV's and DVR's. Will have to see how this all goes with weather changes and other atmospheric events. I hope it continues to go well.
post #15859 of 17106
Welcome to the OTA club! You have a better picture at a better price!

You may get some hiccups with the pictue now and then but you will never miss cable!
post #15860 of 17106
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Originally Posted by RichNorthNJ View Post

1. I dislike reality tv intensely, & wasn't cbs' "Survivor" the one that started it all? I can not beLIEVE cbs is #1! I never ever watch it except for Comics Unleashed (old rerun show) & certain 60 minutes segments that interest me, & this season's 60 min has been the worse - i maybe watched 4 or 5 segments. This channel has no PRO--> baseball or basketball (remember free NBA on CBS?) or hockey, virtually no movies - I checked last saturday afternoon - several infomercials & NO SPORTS!!
Even their flagship wcbs radio station is annoying, repeating "wcbs" a million times over & over way too often, & way too many commercials. Current Hawaii 5-0 is a FAR CRY from the 60's classic - to think i watched soooo many programs on this channel in the 60's & now it's virtually useless to me.
News news news! Thank goodness for THIS network & antenna tv.
2. WNET newark is the closest tv station to me - I am in Garfield NJ. So how come channel 13.1 sometimes comes in & sometimes not? No pattern I can't figure out when it goes out - has nothing to do with the weather. How could this channel so close to me have so little power? - even less than Hot tv 42.3 lol. & they expect me to support it? Nope - I'll support WNJN 50.1. That always comes in with my rabbit ears. Sorry WNET & no on screen program description either. & some movies with the F word in it!! Or they used to show those - I stopped watching after encountering 3 movies like that. DISGRACEFUL!! WNJN & WLIW show no such movies. I hope wnet goes under - kids could be/have been watching!!

Different strokes for different folks! Not everyone will have the same likes as you do with TV programming.

I love a lot of the programming on 2.1 even though I hate CBS mismanagement and miscommunication with us the viewers. I also love PBS.
post #15861 of 17106
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

Different strokes for different folks! Not everyone will have the same likes as you do with TV programming.
I love a lot of the programming on 2.1 even though I hate CBS mismanagement and miscommunication with us the viewers. I also love PBS.

I'm not sure how old you are, but I am 57 - a BIG sci fi fan.
If you are too young, you may have nothing to compare what's on tv
today vs say, what was on in the 60's, when there was no cable or many channels - only 3 major ones - that's all u needed - & all free.
& when I think of CBS, the 1st thing that pops into my head is THIS show - especially THIS episode. The theme music is unforgettable & so unique - done by the incomparable John Williams who did Star Wars. This episode & music is FOREVER in my head - geez - that ship & that robot!
http://www.hulu.com/watch/170/lost-i...0,vepisode,1,0

That's the problem with many tv shows & even movies today - many have virtually no real unique theme music on the opening AND CLOSING credits. NO creativity!! & any music used throughout is hardly unique.
But when you watched 60's shows, especially the ORIGINAL star trek & what's below you knew what show it was immediately from the music thoughout!!! Sci fi overload in the 60's - 1971:

The longest opening in tv history? great theme music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My_85FhMat8

Or if you are a trekkie - ck these ties to cbs's great "mission impossible" show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVoONCKhQQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4FHXcnZS3Y

this scared the heck out of me when i was a kid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTXGNo9W4WA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOLGrXOtuwQ

besides space ghost & the jetsons, I loved this
Mach 5: What Does This Button Do?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJFBFQxO9pQ
fav episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Zfaw-xYjk

http://www.hulu.com/watch/13072/the-...0,vepisode,1,0

http://www.hulu.com/watch/2601/voyag...sky-is-falling

Mission Impossible surprise guest star!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92003Qc5KY8

the rarely seen pilot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkZPbRUqcrY

The Avengers Series 5 Opening Titles and Closing Credits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeK3Lkd_XL4
& countless other shows all genre's -
ALL WITH A THEME MUSIC ONE WOULD RECOGNIZE 40 YEARS LATER!
Unfortunately, the irwin allen shows got silly after the 1st season cause they had to compete with campy Batman 1966.
post #15862 of 17106
I'm watching WPIX right now.. And watching Family guy.. I don't think it was a spoof of family guy but you never know..

Anyways this huge ad for Cellino & Barnes came up on the lower third and it was not transparent it was a black bar. Does Wpix inject ads like that during programming?
post #15863 of 17106
Yup!
post #15864 of 17106
Wow.. this is by far the worst ad injection I've seen.. it's worst then those pop up animated ads. it was almost half the screen!
post #15865 of 17106
Yes, the station has been doing this type of thing for many, many months. A while ago, I remember a Ford car driving across the screen while program content was playing.

It's ridiculous - more people should complain to the station!
post #15866 of 17106
I'm fairly new to cutting the cable cord, so please excuse any ignorance. I live in Queens, NYC and was getting ION on channels 31.1 thru 31.3. But on the last few days I have not been getting it and when I rescan my mythtv I find it on the repeater channels, 12.1 thru 12.3. This would not be an issue except that schedulesdirect has WPXN listings on channels 31.1 thru 31.3. I have also tested this using the hdhomerun program for checking reception.

What would explain this? I get pretty good reception on other channels and am generally happy with OTA reception.

Thanks!
post #15867 of 17106
31.1 - 31.3, and 12.1 - 12.3 all coming in loud and clear!
post #15868 of 17106
I have virtually NO reception of MY9 at the moment. Last time I watched it was 4/23 and reception was very good. Same on 4/10.

My reception of 11 and 13 are very good right now (better than usual).

My 7.1 reception seems about the same (strong).

I've read the last couple of pages and know about the ESB / LED situation. Don't know if it's been done yet and if so, whether or not that might account for my very poor MY9 reception.

I realize that 7, 11 and 13 are VHF, while MY9 is UHF, but that's the current situation.
post #15869 of 17106
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

31.1 - 31.3, and 12.1 - 12.3 all coming in loud and clear!

I'm still not getting it. I'll try moving the antenna tomorrow. Although my other stations around 31 are working fine.

My 9 is working fine in Queens.
post #15870 of 17106
I'd have to call any fear about exterior LED lighting on the ESB causing interference with TV transmissions and and that any individual's reception problems are related "unfounded".

I was going to say "silly", but I decided to be diplomatic.
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