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post #16201 of 17109
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

If I was you. I would try the C2 and C4 and see which one is best signal and which is best in physical size. IF the C4 is too big. Then you might have to compromise.
Do not for get HD Rg6 cable. Compared to cable company coax. I got 5 points signal higher
With your issues. I think bigger is better
Your welcome.

I wont forget the cable ordered it too . i think the c4 will fit fine i dont care if it looks bad i just want my football and postseason bbl. plus if an antenna with 60mile range cant help me then it wont matter and im screwed . and would have to start in with the board about installing an outdoor antenna at that point and cost ill just find the games online and hook my CPu to my TV smile.gif
post #16202 of 17109
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

Both the C2 and C4 is stock form are UHF antennas. AD has a C2 VHF reflector that fits either antenna and works pretty well.

Remember looking into it and the clearstreams are VHF and uhf. I guess he can call them and verify
post #16203 of 17109
I tried the C2 and had no luck with it. I think you will find with the C2 and others in the series,
they are really UHF antennas adapted to receive VHF.

Whichever antenna you buy, make sure it can be returned and/or exchanged.

One person's success with an antenna will not necessarily mean that it will work for you -
there are just too many variables.

That being said, I like two Terk antennas:

HDTVi - Unamplified

HDTVa - Amplified

They are the same antenna - one amplified, the other not.

Both have UHF and a VHF elements.

In fact, the VHF element are rabbit ears - gives you great flexibility in adjusting.

Good luck!
Edited by SnellKrell - 9/2/12 at 2:47pm
post #16204 of 17109
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Originally Posted by ahorowytz View Post

Maybe some one could help i live in Englewood Nj , i recently got rid of TWC and i went to antenna but i can not get the basic channels 2-13 or there sub channels i do how ever get channel 50.1 NJTVhd in perfect clear hd and a bunch of higher channels i have an indoor antenna i live in a condo so i cannot put an outside antenna my windows face west unfortunately. is this the reason? i can live without tv except on sundays ! any info help would be great i have an antennacraft omnidirection antenna.
Thanks in advance

In addition to facing west, away from the transmitters, what floor are you on and how many floors are in your building? Also if you were on the same floor but on the side of the building facing the ESB (transmitters) is there a clear line of sight to the ESB or are there buildings, terrain or other obstacles?
post #16205 of 17109
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

I tried the C2 and had no luck with it. I think you will find with the C2 and others in the series,
they are really UHF antennas adapted to receive VHF.
Whichever antenna you buy, make sure it can be returned and/or exchanged.
One person's success with an antenna will not necessarily mean that it will work for you -
there are just too many variables.
That being said, I like two Terk antennas:
HDTVi - Amplified
HDTVa - Unamplified
They are the same antenna - one amplified, the other not.
Both have UHF and a VHF elements.
In fact, the VHF element are rabbit ears - gives you great flexibility in adjusting.
Good luck!

I thought those antenna are for inside NYC since they are very directional.
post #16206 of 17109
They're not for just inside NYC.

Yes, the UHF element is very directional.

Therefore, good for dealing with multipath.

Even if there are no multipath problems with a lot of bounce signals,
it could be fine just aiming one of the Terks toward the ESB.
post #16207 of 17109
The HDTVa is the amplified version.
post #16208 of 17109
Sorry I mixed up the two Terk indoor antennas.

HDTVa - Amplified

HDTVi - Unamplifed

Thanks for catching the error.
post #16209 of 17109
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

They're not for just inside NYC.
Yes, the UHF element is very directional.
Therefore, good for dealing with multipath.
Even if there are no multipath problems with a lot of bounce signals,
it could be fine just aiming one of the Terks toward the ESB.

I am surprised it says 45 miles from broadcast station with no obstructions

As I always said, This is more of an art form then science. He needs to try 5 antennas and pick the best and return the rest
post #16210 of 17109
Those Terks have a very well designed UHF element. I have an HDTVa that receives UHF stations from 75 miles. But of course that depends upon location and lack of obstructions. Not sure how well it would work in NYC with all of the tall buildings around. Perhaps you could also give the Mohu Leaf a try, as it has gotten good reviews. But it is optimized for UHF, although it does work well for VHF in some areas.
post #16211 of 17109
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Those Terks have a very well designed UHF element. I have an HDTVa that receives UHF stations from 75 miles. But of course that depends upon location and lack of obstructions. Not sure how well it would work in NYC with all of the tall buildings around. Perhaps you could also give the Mohu Leaf a try, as it has gotten good reviews. But it is optimized for UHF, although it does work well for VHF in some areas.

Honestly it looks like a toy. Yet I seen stranger things. When I was looking for my Aunt the Terk 50 was the state of the art. I tried it not knowing it would work. Can you imagine when I walked in with a 5 foot stick antenna? She was not pleased. When it worked she got happy real fast. Even in analog it got 16 channels. Of course 2 to 5 got variants of snow From 7 to above it was perfect. Now with digital she gets 55 channels with subs. Yet I know someone who tried the terk 50 and got little to nothing. It all depends on where you live.

Trying any suggestion is the way to go. It either works or it does not.
post #16212 of 17109
wPIX ch.11- 1,2,3 give rather low signal output, lot of pixelation, Antenna adjustments may improve reception, but then may loose some of the 72ch.
post #16213 of 17109
I am getting ready to try to record something on ch 7 overnight and am seeing some very weird reception issues with it. Basically, it wasn't there at all (or at extremely low levels). I even moved my antenna to my 2nd location (that I use for MY9) and same thing.

Although I still have it there now (12:07 AM) and seem to be getting solid reception now.

Ch 7 is normally my strongest NYC channel at my primary antenna location. But I had zilch there just a bit ago.

???????????

I'll set things up to record from 3:30 AM to 4:30 AM and see what I get. There's nothing else I can do.

But I've had pretty solid Jimmy Kimmel for about 5 minutes now, so I'm hopeful.

Oops -- just lost reception (@ 12:09)

It's gotta be either an atmosphere thing or they are having probems at ABC (or @ the ESB)
post #16214 of 17109
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Originally Posted by T-Max View Post

It's gotta be either an atmosphere thing or they are having probems at ABC (or @ the ESB)

I have now watched what I recorded from 3:27 AM to 4:33 AM Saturday and there was nary a glitch. So reception at that time was solid. It was also solid later yesterday morning @ 90-91% for ch. 7. And also very good for all NYC channels.

That was all at my #2 (MY9) antenna location.

Then I moved the antenna to my primary location, pointed to NYC, and even better ch 7 reception there (as per usual).

So the problems I saw Friday night were apparently temporary. What those problems were due to, I dunno.
post #16215 of 17109
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Originally Posted by T-Max View Post

I have now watched what I recorded from 3:27 AM to 4:33 AM Saturday and there was nary a glitch. So reception at that time was solid. It was also solid later yesterday morning @ 90-91% for ch. 7. And also very good for all NYC channels.
That was all at my #2 (MY9) antenna location.
Then I moved the antenna to my primary location, pointed to NYC, and even better ch 7 reception there (as per usual).
So the problems I saw Friday night were apparently temporary. What those problems were due to, I dunno.

Wow you are quite the OTA trooper. You were up on your roof yesterday morning moving your antenna around? Wasn't it rainy yesterday morning?
post #16216 of 17109
Hi. It's 9/11/12 and at 9AM I noticed that channel 2 had no signal.

I finally found a number for CBS in NYC, 212-975-4321 and spoke with someone who acknowledged that there was a problem. He said they lost power.

I also noticed that channel 5 is off the air after 12:30AM some nights.

There is no mention of a problem on the CBS website.

OTA is not being treated seriously. That's a bad sign.
post #16217 of 17109
enter 33 on your remote which is its RF# and you should get CBS
post #16218 of 17109
At 12 noon I turned on my TV and found no channel 2.1 and 2.1 but it was there as 33.1 and 33.2. So something must have happened and they never told anyone. Funny it happened on the anniversary of 9/11.
post #16219 of 17109
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Originally Posted by NYC10033 View Post

OTA is not being treated seriously. That's a bad sign.

As the cost of programming increases, so must revenue streams for broadcasters, as they will need to compete with other streams of programming (payTV, Hulu, etc.). OTA programming was paid for primarily by advertising back in the day. Now, a greater portion needs be made up by re-transmission fees. It explains why CV has dumped CW11 from the lineup. I have read that Tribune wants 30 cents per month per subscriber for CW11.. a channel that you theoretically can get free with an antenna.

You will see broadcasters worry more about their sat or microwave linkups to cable / sat head ends than their primary broadcast facility.... The money is in the re-transmission fees...

Cheers!
-Doug
post #16220 of 17109
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

At 12 noon I turned on my TV and found no channel 2.1 and 2.1 but it was there as 33.1 and 33.2. So something must have happened and they never told anyone. Funny it happened on the anniversary of 9/11.

I thought CBS broke the cluster of 3BuenaVista 4WNBC 5Fox 7WABC 9WOR 11WPIX 13WNET going to 33 and at night going back to 2
post #16221 of 17109
Is channel 2 cbs now broadcasting in postage stamp?
post #16222 of 17109
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

Is channel 2 cbs now broadcasting in postage stamp?

I been told that CBS changed formats. Is no one else getting postage stamp or elongated picture?
post #16223 of 17109
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Originally Posted by keyboard21 View Post

I been told that CBS changed formats. Is no one else getting postage stamp or elongated picture?

The main channel has always been right.

It's the sub-channel that's all mucked up...
post #16224 of 17109
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Originally Posted by dstoffa View Post

The main channel has always been right.
It's the sub-channel that's all mucked up...
Not on FIOS. CBS 2.1 is no all messed up and they are blaming CBS signal. So since Fios gets the signal from CBS. I thought it would of shown on CBS antenna.
post #16225 of 17109
No issues here with CBS.
post #16226 of 17109
On the cable front my understanding is that CNN was dominant news channel, on OTA front it seems that the Chinese News are serious competitors of OTA major worldwide news,
the 32 -1 CCTV shows African news in English, 32-2 CCTV4 Asian in English, 32-3 Chinese programs with Spanish subtitles, then there are 24-2 ICN and 24-3 and in the 63 few other Asia ch.
post #16227 of 17109
We live in a country with a very diverse population and the programming reflects who we are.... especially in the NY/NJ metro area.
I would like to see the programming that is in other languages give English speakers an option to view what is going on in English. Whether by captions or other means. They definitely show more and better movies ...that I try to watch but my Spanish is not very good.
post #16228 of 17109
Speaking of Spanish language TV stations...

When a Spanish language TV station shows an American movie, the audio is the Spanish dub of the movie.

Why aren't they also broadcasting the English audio of the American movie as an alternate SAP???

I emailed one station asking this, but I never got an answer.

I know FOX broadcasts the Simpsons in English and Spanish. Why not channel 68 or whatever???
post #16229 of 17109
It makes so much sense to do this that you would have to be stupid not to do it and get more viewers!
post #16230 of 17109
Just a thought here, but perhaps they only get a licence to broadcast the movies with Spanish audio. Might be cheaper for them to acquire that way.
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