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Not even close. Even the contour map leaves much of Fairfield County dark. Just stupidity to have adjacent markets with the same parent network on the same channel. And, this is someone who can get WCBS-DT with LOS at over 50 miles out! (Not a lick of WFSB though)

Few days ago I did Full Scan, I've got 73 ch. but to big surprise it did not pick the 3 ch. of WPIX 11-1,2,3 and manually it showed 0-15, 0 -15 signal

What are you using for an antenna, and how far are you from the WPIX transmitting tower? WPIX is a VHF channel. Are you using a VHF antenna?

I am using 2 indoor rabbit ears with dish and analog roof top Antena all connected to 4-1 splitter with 1 rabbit ear connection to converter box.
I am about 3.5 - 4 miles from ESB -Empire State Building, I am happy with the Antena connections with 3 streams of WPIX 11 it gives me 76 channels including doubles like ION 31/12 with doubles of 32/35 it would give 79ch. I try to edit it to 60ch.

Any new channels or Sub stations coming soon?

thanks

A better question. Any worthwhile new channels or substations coming with content that would be meaningful, useful, entertaining?

The answers are: No, yes, and yes!

This is not specifically a New York market story, but according to this report, a new subchannel will replace an existing subchannel in the New York market and other major markets:

COZI TV: NBC going retro on new digital network

If the plan follows through, NBC's NonStop will finally... stop.

Even more importantly, any new sub-channel that comes will hopefully be displayed at the very least in the correct 16:9 aspect ratio like NonStop did.

What makes you think that NBC's NonStop will finally... stop .The link you posted said they are not sure what it will replace

Why do we need another OLD channel?


PS thanks for the news

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Just saw this article on sitcomsonline about a new network showing classic TV. Its called Cozi and starts in January.

http://blog.sitcomso...on-cozi-tv.html

We hinted on our message board earlier this week that a new over the air digital subchannel focusing on classic TV will be launching January 1, and now some info has been reported. The new network will be named Cozi TV and will be from NBCUniversal. It will be replacing digital subchannel Nonstop on the NBC Owned Television Stations. So if you're in the NBC owned markets and have Nonstop, you'll have Cozi TV come January 1. Among the series they will have at launch will include comedies like Burns & Allen, The Lucy Show, Ozzie & Harriet, Red Skelton, Groucho Marx; action dramas like Charlie's Angels, The Six Million Dollar Man, The Bionic Woman, Magnum P.I., and classic family and western series like Lassie, The Roy Rogers Show, The Lone Ranger, The Virginian, The Adventures of Kit Carson and Alias Smith and Jones, Marcus Welby, M.D., and Highway to Heaven. A few movies will be featured in the afternoons. Currently, Highway to Heaven has been airing weekdays at 12 noon on Nonstop on all NBC Owned Television Stations, so it will likely remain at 12 noon when Cozi takes over the space on Jan. 1. Nonstop was first launched in New York in March 2009 and then expanded to the other NBC Owned Television Stations in 2010 and 2011. Of the ten markets that NBC owns, nine of them have a Nonstop station, with only the Hartford market not included. Thus, chances of Cozi TV in Hartford are not certain as the other nine markets NBC owns (NY, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington DC, Dallas, Miami, and San Diego).

Cozi TV will join the crowded digital subchannel world that includes fellow classic TV stations like Antenna TV, MeTV, THIStv, Bounce TV and RTV. Stay tuned for the official announcement and full details, like an actual schedule, as soon as it is announced. Much more to come, so get "cozi" and comfortable!
Edited by keyboard21 - 10/19/12 at 5:29pm

Big News for OTA Fans:

http://blog.sitcomsonline.com/2012/10/new-classic-tv-digital-station-cozi-tv.html#ixzz29qTjEQT3

Thursday, October 18, 2012
New Classic TV Digital Station Cozi TV Coming January 2013

We hinted on our message board earlier this week that a new over the air digital subchannel focusing on classic TV will be launching January 1, and now some info has been reported. The new network will be named Cozi TV and will be from NBCUniversal. It will be replacing digital subchannel Nonstop on the NBC Owned Television Stations. So if you're in the NBC owned markets and have Nonstop, you'll have Cozi TV come January 1. Among the series they will have at launch will include comedies like Burns & Allen, The Lucy Show, Ozzie & Harriet, Red Skelton, Groucho Marx; action dramas like Charlie's Angels, The Six Million Dollar Man, The Bionic Woman, Magnum P.I., and classic family and western series like Lassie, The Roy Rogers Show, The Lone Ranger, The Virginian, The Adventures of Kit Carson and Alias Smith and Jones, Marcus Welby, M.D., and Highway to Heaven. A few movies will be featured in the afternoons. Currently, Highway to Heaven has been airing weekdays at 12 noon on Nonstop on all NBC Owned Television Stations, so it will likely remain at 12 noon when Cozi takes over the space on Jan. 1. Nonstop was first launched in New York in March 2009 and then expanded to the other NBC Owned Television Stations in 2010 and 2011. Of the ten markets that NBC owns, nine of them have a Nonstop station, with only the Hartford market not included. Thus, chances of Cozi TV in Hartford are not certain as the other nine markets NBC owns (NY, LA, Chicago, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Washington DC, Dallas, Miami, and San Diego).
Cozi TV will join the crowded digital subchannel world that includes fellow classic TV stations like Antenna TV, MeTV, THIStv, Bounce TV and RTV. Stay tuned for the official announcement and full details, like an actual schedule, as soon as it is announced. Much more to come, so get "cozi" and comfortable

In the morning .your 9-1 had pixelation 0-15-0-27- up and down, my 9-2 had 100 % signal level, no problem, on the other hand WPIX 11-1,2,3 all 3streams have the same signal level

Why getting NYC stations when aimed 70+-deg off (for LI stations)?? Also, anyone in NYC get WLNY 55?

Hi,

Nice Oct weather so… Helped a potential Brooklyn cable cutter install an inexpensive roof antenna they ordered - it at least looks like a very directional UHF Yagi (triple/euro style?)+reflectors - to get Ch 21 LI +.

http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/STELLAR-LABS-30-2155-/30-2155

WLIW (Ch. 21) is strong and steady @ ~30 mi. (Viewer was half hoping for WLNY (10/55) @ 60mi, but RF 47 barely registers on the tuner (Zenith box). Anyone get it from NYC with a better antenna?)

Thing that surprised me is that it's getting all the NYC stations - including VHF 7-11-13 strong. I know the ESB is only 9 mi, but it's aimed 70 degrees off. Is this expected?

Thanks for commenting. I am curious.

There should be no difference in signal power between sub-channels of a station since they're all the same signal.

That is generally true. However, in Los angeles, physical channel KCOP 13.4 will display as 11.2, a subchannel of KTTV.

I supposed I could have been more explicit. Sub-channels that are on a single transmitted channel will have the signal strength. Note emphasis added.

This is not to be confused with the somewhat exotic circumstance you've mentioned that is seen in a few cities around the country.

As most of you know due to Hurricane Sandy, some of the local stations have been pushing network programming to sub channels or sister stations. NBC programming to Non Stop and ABC programming to LiveWell. WCBS has been pushing network programming to sister station WLNY. That is great for cable viewers with power but a big disservice for OTA viewers in areas from Central/North NJ to the Hudson Valley, NY. They would be better served if they pushed it to WLNY and 2.2. As of now 2.2 is a simulcast of coverage on CBS main channel on a window along with the usual news text on the right. There is little or no cable carriage of 2.2 so no cable viewer will complain about the loss of 2.2 or duplicate content on multiple channels and no OTA viewer will miss it. There is little overlap of WCBS & WLNY OTA signals. Opinions?

Several people probably can't read or post due to no power or limited cell/WiFi service.
I have no power at home, but thankfully I have a 750W car inverter that is powering a small fridge in my basement, plus my 57" Mitsu DLP with an OTA antenna on my roof. I have Cablevision, but the lines came down with the electric in the neighborhood. I hooked up my antenna a couple of years ago as a back-up.
Its nice to see what is going on in the world rather than being felt like cut-off.

Does your car need to be running for that inverter to work?

Operating the inverter causes the battery to discharge and running the car keeps the battery charged as long as you have gasoline.

I have one of those battery booster packs that I keep fully charged in my car during the Winter in case I need a "jump start." I have used that indoors to operate an inverter to (sparingly) watch TV during power outages, but it eventually runs down, too. Besides recharging it from a wall outlet, I can plug into my car's accessory power outlet while idleing or driving.

Thanks would you have a link to the one you use? Or send me a pm

thanks

I doubt you are going to find one now, but its a Sears Die Hard 750W invereter
http://www.sears.com/diehard-750-watt-mobile-power-inverter-with-digital/p-02871495000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5

Yes, you do need to keep the car running, but its the same as having a generator run, only its quieter.
Obviously now gas is an issue, but I have a full tank and I don't plan on driving over the weekend, and I took Monday off from work. So hopefully this gas crisis will be over by then.

I have not tried it on my gas furnace yet. Its suppose to get chilly at night the next couple of days. The biggest amp draw is the blower motor. I'm going to try it out when I get home

This may be an odd time to ask, with many recovering from Hurricane Sandy and all. Anyways, here goes:

Are any TV stations planning to move to the new Freedom Tower at the WTC center site, once it's finshed?

Purchased one on Sunday at KMart for much less than the Sears price.

Well, I tried my inverter on my furnace, but I don't know what happened, my inverter just died. The fuses are good. Thankfully I got power back the next day. At least I can go back to Sears now and return or exchange when they get others in, but I'm going to wait till this gas situation clears up.
The only thing I did differently is I backfed it into my furnace through an outlet that was connected to it. I did shut the breaker to my furnace, but my neutral was still going back to the panel, so I don't know if that screwed up my inverter.

If your furnace is somewhat older, it will have an induction motor with capacitive start (or perhaps even 2 motors if it's an oil burner for a hot air system). Induction motors will not operate correctly on the pulse waveform produced by an inverter or non-sinusoidal UPS. Plus they need a lot of current to start, probably way more than the load capacity of your inverter. If the motor doesn't start (which it most likely won't), it will just act like a short-circuit and either pop a circuit breaker or fuse in the inverter or just destroy it. There are inverters that produce sine waves but they are very expensive and you're not going to find one at Sears. Reserve the inexpensive pulse-waveform inverters for electronic equipment with switching power supplies that don't give a whoot what the input waveform is.

A newer gas furnace with a DC motor and controller boards might squeak by with a pulsed output inverter, but might still draw more current than your inverter could supply continuously.
Edited by frank70 - 11/6/12 at 4:39am

A 750 W inverter isn't going to be able to start and run an HVAC blower motor. Too much start-up current.

You would need a 2500 watt inverter to safely operate items from a single 20-amp circuit breaker. For a 15-amp circuit breaker you'd only need an 1800 watt inverter. A 750 watt inverter equates to a 6 amp circuit breaker but I don't think they're used nor available that small in home breaker boxes.

I know this is off-topic, but a 2500 watt inverter fully loaded would be pulling something like 200 Amps from your car battery, sort of like a starter motor. Figure the battery would last less than a minute. Plus, as I've said before, the starup current on an induction motor will be many times it's steady-state rated current; that coupled with the s**tty waveform means the motor is very likely to just stand very still and get hot, all the while draining your car battery. Your furnace is NOT a small fridge.

Moral: get a generator!

Now back to your regularly secheduled OTA reception issues...

For the record, before the inverter died, it powered up my fridge in the basement. It was a smaller fridge, which according to the plate on the door had a full load of 6.5 amps, assuming this was at start-up. Once the compressor was running, the inverter displayed 360 watts (had a digital readout). I then connected my TV, which added another 250 watts. So I was still well under 750W. I assumed that if a modified sine wave worked on a fridge it work work on a blower motor.

Was wondering:

How did everyone who had an outdoor antenna make out? My 4 antennas survived but lots of trees did not in my area.