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post #16441 of 17106
Anyone else - Audio Stutter on OTA Ch. 31 on some tuners now 1-27-12 3 PM?

Hi,

If anyone in NYC area is perusing this thread at the moment, just curious if I'm the only one.

Two Magnavox 515s (no new settings) right now have a severe audio stutter on Ch. 31.x only. But Zenith/Insignia DTV boxes are fine. All same antenna. Haven't had the chance yet to check the differences in audio settings among the devices. Maybe something in the ION signal changed?

Thanks.

Edit: Cleared up sometime before 8PM. OTA is fun...
Edited by jam-h - 1/27/13 at 10:55pm
post #16442 of 17106
Ch. 42-1 Cubana Television began broadcast, Spanish b&w sitcom or some kind of movie/show, some good color burlesque show alas Las Vegas
Edited by AloEuro - 2/15/13 at 8:05am
post #16443 of 17106
When the new freedom tower antenna is active will it improve the broadcast networks
post #16444 of 17106
There are no plans that I know of to move the broadcasting from the Empire State building any time soon. If anyone has seen plans and dates please let us know on this forum. Otherwise there is only speculation.

Secondly there is NO way of knowing what impact it would have anyway. IT could be an improvement for some people and hurt other people depending on what they do if they moved.
post #16445 of 17106
If the nfl comes back to abc that would suck. The hd feed of abc sucks.
post #16446 of 17106
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Originally Posted by Kascnef82 View Post

If the nfl comes back to abc that would suck. The hd feed of abc sucks.

Where I work at, I wish it were on ABC, NBC, or Fox, since those networks are on UHF, & I can pick up those stations in my work place. Instead, it's on CBS, & in Chicago, CBS is on VHF, & my workplace can't pick up CBS at all
post #16447 of 17106
Do you have a VHF antenna? The major problem with VHF and HDTV is for those stations using channels 2-6. I've had no problem with NY stations 7, 11, 12 & 13 (all upper VHF) and I'm 25 miles north west of Manhattan, using an attic mounted antenna I am using a mast mounted pre-amp. My antenna is an older Radio Shack VHF/UHF, which isn't in the best shape.
post #16448 of 17106
interesting article with pictures on how Aereo send NYC OTA to subscribers over the net:
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Inside Aereo: new photos of the tech that’s changing how we watch TV

http://gigaom.com/2013/02/06/inside-aereo-new-photos-of-the-tech-thats-changing-how-we-watch-tv/

I've always wondered about this part:
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The ingenuity, Kanojia said, is that Aereo’s 1.5 inch antenna changes its electrical and magnetic characteristics in order to replicate the tasks of a standard 35 inch UFH and three foot VHF antennas.
post #16449 of 17106
Way too many westerns on COZI, tho I tape Lassie & watch Banacek.
I don't know about other people, but I (city folk) have absolutely no interest AT ALL in westerns - NONE! lol
I still to this day can not figure why they reFUSE to rerun these shows:
the Danny Thomas show, Make Room for Granddady, MANNIX, Room 222, etc.
post #16450 of 17106
Westerns?

Give me The Wild, Wild West!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wild_Wild_West
post #16451 of 17106
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

There are no plans that I know of to move the broadcasting from the Empire State building any time soon. If anyone has seen plans and dates please let us know on this forum. Otherwise there is only speculation.

Secondly there is NO way of knowing what impact it would have anyway. IT could be an improvement for some people and hurt other people depending on what they do if they moved.

I think it would help me.. but most of the channels I can get now already but higher is better, in some crazy storms or a plane flying out of Westchester I can get break up due to mutipath.
post #16452 of 17106
I know it doesn't mean much, but I could swear I recently had seen CPs for some channels at 1 WTC, at heights around 1700+ ft.
I believe it was WCBS (and definitely others) who had a construction permit.
I do not know how it works, but wouldn't a lease come before a CP?
post #16453 of 17106
No, the lease can come after.

Various stations have filed with the FCC for a "possible" move to 1 WTC - power,
position on the mast, etc.


The paperwork has been done - but that doesn't mean that the move will take place.
post #16454 of 17106
I guess reception has been good for everyone as no one is complaining! I for one have had quite good reception. I expect that will change in a few months as the atmospherics change and the trees bloom.
post #16455 of 17106
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

No, the lease can come after.

Various stations have filed with the FCC for a "possible" move to 1 WTC - power,
position on the mast, etc.


The paperwork has been done - but that doesn't mean that the move will take place.

I wonder if anyone know that the stations a) will be higher up if they go to the trade center, b) they will transmit with the same power or more power and not less, and c) they will send their signal in the same directions and not change the broadcast pattern or whatever it is called. Obviously moving 30 blocks or so south will change something with the signal all things being equal.
post #16456 of 17106
Per usual, Trip at RabbitEars has all the answers to your questions!
post #16457 of 17106
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Originally Posted by SnellKrell View Post

Per usual, Trip at RabbitEars has all the answers to your questions!

My name has been invoked!
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

I wonder if anyone know that the stations a) will be higher up if they go to the trade center,

Yes, the highest station on ESB right now is at 1407' HAAT (WFUT), and the highest height applied for on 1WTC is at 1703' HAAT (WCBS/WNBC).
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b) they will transmit with the same power or more power and not less,

Less, due to the added height, but these filings were before the emergency power increases for VHF, so the applied for values would likely be increased for those stations.
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and c) they will send their signal in the same directions and not change the broadcast pattern or whatever it is called.

The stations that filed for 1WTC are:

WCBS
WNBC
WABC
WPIX
WNET
WPXN

Of those, WPIX and WPXN applied to be directional. WPIX is slightly directional, probably just on paper. WPXN is more so, primarily to protect WTIC and limit radiation toward the Atlantic Ocean.

Of course, these are ungranted applications, put in place to protect those coverage areas in the event these stations later choose to go back to 1WTC. No guarantee they will actually move there. Actually, I wouldn't be surprised to see 7/11/13 stay put on ESB to keep the higher power levels they get there.

- Trip
post #16458 of 17106
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

I wonder if anyone know that the stations a) will be higher up if they go to the trade center, b) they will transmit with the same power or more power and not less, and c) they will send their signal in the same directions and not change the broadcast pattern or whatever it is called. Obviously moving 30 blocks or so south will change something with the signal all things being equal.
actually it's about twice that distance but there are other things to consider like new high rise office tower that is scheduled to be closely that will likely affect reception.
post #16459 of 17106
Thanks Trip fro all the helpful info!

Which leads me back to......would you agree that for any stations that move from the ESB to ITT it does not mean we all will be guaranteed better reception?
post #16460 of 17106
If I may jump in, at 1WTC, more will have line of sight to the antennas. However, radiated power from 1WTC will be less in order to maintain the same coverage range. This means less fill-in around obstacles, so those without line of sight may be worse off.
post #16461 of 17106
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Originally Posted by Dave Loudin View Post

If I may jump in, at 1WTC, more will have line of sight to the antennas. However, radiated power from 1WTC will be less in order to maintain the same coverage range. This means less fill-in around obstacles, so those without line of sight may be worse off.

By all means! I want to hear what everyone has to offer about this subject! I think it may be good to know all the possible scenarios as far as reception goes if any broadcasters move to 1TT. I think the assumption that everyone will benefit may or may not be true.
post #16462 of 17106
Any change, be it antenna patterns, transmitter locations, even configurations of other stations (especially those on the same channels in adjacent markets), can impact reception. There are simply too many variables. Some people will see improvement, others will stay the same or lose coverage.

- Trip
post #16463 of 17106
Yes like me, ch.11 WPIX some time it runs good, but often prime time too high fluctuation of signal gives pixelation,
post #16464 of 17106
Anyone else notice the time is off by 1 hour in the New York market? When my Samsung TV displays the show info and the time displays it is an hour later than the current time. All channels.
post #16465 of 17106
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Originally Posted by AloEuro View Post

Yes like me, ch.11 WPIX some time it runs good, but often prime time too high fluctuation of signal gives pixelation,
i wonder why it's always prime time this happens as well.. I assume it has to deal with the sky conditions.. But that's my ham radio way of thinking smile.gif

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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

Anyone else notice the time is off by 1 hour in the New York market? When my Samsung TV displays the show info and the time displays it is an hour later than the current time. All channels.
My Samsung tv is fine here
post #16466 of 17106
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

Anyone else notice the time is off by 1 hour in the New York market? When my Samsung TV displays the show info and the time displays it is an hour later than the current time. All channels.

Sometimes the time on my Pioneer Kuro TV is off by an hour, but it really does not matter to me what the TV time shows, all I really need is the the time is correct on my Maggi DVR's.
post #16467 of 17106
Does it have anything to do with Daylight Saving Time starting? tongue.gif
post #16468 of 17106
No, it doesn't. Maybe you didn't notice you're responding to posts from last week? tongue.gif

I have this problem on occasion with my Samsung plasma's tuner. Usually resolves itself, or you can manually enter the time to fix it right away.
post #16469 of 17106
Lately, some major channels likeCBS 2-1,some time evenNBC 4-1 give empty pockets signals,0-0- No Signal, sometime CBS2-1 half an hour, but moving Antenna often brings back the signal
post #16470 of 17106
During local ad breaks the hd quality of fox sucks.
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