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post #16891 of 17106
sigh.. I always lose CBS and NBC at night but they come back during the day time..
post #16892 of 17106
You might need a bigger/better antenna.
post #16893 of 17106
Yeah I think so too, however I'm going to be getting cable back in the late fall so I would be only keeping OTA as backup if they have any more channel disputes.
post #16894 of 17106
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Originally Posted by SubaruB4 View Post

Yeah I think so too, however I'm going to be getting cable back in the late fall so I would be only keeping OTA as backup if they have any more channel disputes.
Friend of mine, about 4miles from ESB, he has roof Antenna and on his Samsung can not get ch.2 CBS and ch.4 NBC, now he talks about getting " digital Antenna".
I also get drop signal on ch.2 and ch.4 on DTV, it is little annoying
post #16895 of 17106
It is kind of paradox that the cheap 40-60 $ converter boxes have better features than the DigitalTV.
the Converter Box has Signal level ...... the DTV does not have
it has EPG some boxes Now/Next other 12hrs...... DTV does not
Full Scan 1min to 5/7min. depending upon the boxes...... DTV 30min + and must complete full circle scan
the big difference is the PQ - it is tale of two worlds, conv. box of 480i no comparison to DTV 480i and higher
post #16896 of 17106
Can someone post in here whenever GetTV is on air, so I can know to rescan? Cheers.
post #16897 of 17106
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Originally Posted by AloEuro View Post

Friend of mine, about 4miles from ESB, he has roof Antenna and on his Samsung can not get ch.2 CBS and ch.4 NBC, now he talks about getting " digital Antenna".
I also get drop signal on ch.2 and ch.4 on DTV, it is little annoying
Hmm... odd My tv is also a Samsung with a OTA tuner like right now 2 & 4 come in fine with a pretty strong signal, but around 7-8 PM it's gone.. I assume it has something to do with the signal propagation at night, at least that's all I can think of.. I highly doubt they would change signal powers.
post #16898 of 17106
No problems here with 2 or 4 from 20 miles ESE of ESB. Not roof mounted, so no line-of-sight, but aimed properly.

AloEuro, you are generalizing there about DTVs, but I know some do have poor quality tuners. From what I've heard, Samsung provides very good tuners in their TVs.

My 1080p Samsung plasma TV (D7000) has an excellent OTA tuner. It scans quickly (1-2 minutes), shows signal strength (basic, 5-bar display) and includes a full EPG that covers the entire broadcast day. I feel sorry for anyone relegated to 480i or composite video in this day and age.
post #16899 of 17106
I own 2 Sharp HD TVs and a Samsung. My Samsung has a much better tuner.
post #16900 of 17106
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Originally Posted by AvidHiker View Post

No problems here with 2 or 4 from 20 miles ESE of ESB. Not roof mounted, so no line-of-sight, but aimed properly.

AloEuro, you are generalizing there about DTVs, but I know some do have poor quality tuners. From what I've heard, Samsung provides very good tuners in their TVs.

My 1080p Samsung plasma TV (D7000) has an excellent OTA tuner. It scans quickly (1-2 minutes), shows signal strength (basic, 5-bar display) and includes a full EPG that covers the entire broadcast day. I feel sorry for anyone relegated to 480i or composite video in this day and age.
It is good to know that the new line DTV sets have all those features you and I were writing about. thank you
post #16901 of 17106
post #16902 of 17106
Thanks NYCTVENG!

I extracted this part which is every interesting:
....."The FCC has an auction of some of the spectrum. It is tentatively scheduled for June 2014. They want to clear 10 channels in the band nationwide to be able to offer it to broadband to sell. So, they are repacking some of the channels."

Lyons said there will be an upper UHF and a lower UHF spectrum with a separation of the band in the middle.

“But in some markets, some of those UHF stations may move to the VHF channels,” Lyons said. “Until the auction actually takes place middle of next year, or a year out from right now, we don’t know exactly which channels these stations are going to a) be voluntarily move to or b) be forced to move to, to know what antennas I need to actually put up there.”

New York City is expected to have several high-band VHF stations. A major remaining question involves the breakdown of UHF versus VHF allocations. The FCC will issue an NPRM late this year, which gives an outline of the allocation table. At that point, it will open up for a lot broader discussion and the broadcasters will have a pretty good idea of where they’ll end up.."

I could not tell if they were looking to grab 10 UHF channels (would this be RF channels like 31, 32, 33, etc.) in the middle of the RF band or at the ends of the UHF RF band. Also they are looking to make more use of high VHF for TV. So anyone with poor VHF reception may have to get a better VHF antenna. Also since higher is better for VHF then a move to 1 WTC may help VHF reception.
post #16903 of 17106
Ch.42- 1,2,3,4,5,6 become weekend broadcast with pixelation
Ch 23- 1,2;3,4, 0-15 signal
Ch.32- 1 CCTVEnglish
32- 2 CCTVChinese audio/Spanish subtitles
32- 3 CCTV4 china
32-4 WXNY
Ch.32 was off the air for while, my conv.box picked it up but though using the same Antenna connection the DTV did not
post #16904 of 17106
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Originally Posted by LenL View Post

Thanks NYCTVENG!

I extracted this part which is every interesting:
....."The FCC has an auction of some of the spectrum. It is tentatively scheduled for June 2014. They want to clear 10 channels in the band nationwide to be able to offer it to broadband to sell. So, they are repacking some of the channels."
............
I could not tell if they were looking to grab 10 UHF channels (would this be RF channels like 31, 32, 33, etc.) in the middle of the RF band or at the ends of the UHF RF band. Also they are looking to make more use of high VHF for TV. So anyone with poor VHF reception may have to get a better VHF antenna. Also since higher is better for VHF then a move to 1 WTC may help VHF reception.
the ch. 31 and up range to 40 have lot's of room
ch.31 is also on ch.12
ch.32 was on hiatus, now is back maybe for bargaining position
ch.33 is domain of ch.2 CBS
ch.34 is FoxMundo on 9-4
ch.35 is also on ch.24-2.3
ch.36 is domain of 47Telemundo
ch.37 and 38 and 40 are empty and ch.39 has lot, 8 or 9 subs of weak signal
post #16905 of 17106
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Originally Posted by AloEuro View Post


the ch. 31 and up range to 40 have lot's of room
ch.31 is also on ch.12
ch.32 was on hiatus, now is back maybe for bargaining position
ch.33 is domain of ch.2 CBS
ch.34 is FoxMundo on 9-4
ch.35 is also on ch.24-2.3
ch.36 is domain of 47Telemundo
ch.37 and 38 and 40 are empty and ch.39 has lot, 8 or 9 subs of weak signal


37 is reserved for radio astronomy and there's a little station on 38 called WWOR you may have heard of
post #16906 of 17106
Then why do all TV's have the ability to tune to 37 then?
post #16907 of 17106
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Originally Posted by reddice View Post

Then why do all TV's have the ability to tune to 37 then?

Good question.
post #16908 of 17106
Because it would take more effort or cost to tune it out rather than just include and ignore it.
post #16909 of 17106
More likely, it would cause needless confusion by purchasers who would think that there is something wrong with their tuner. Each channel is just an entry in a channel plan program.
post #16910 of 17106
2 and 4 are rock solid with roof antenna 50 miles NW of ESB. 7 is only seen early mornings, by afternoon it is gone. 13 is hit or miss.
post #16911 of 17106
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Originally Posted by n2ubp View Post

2 and 4 are rock solid with roof antenna 50 miles NW of ESB. 7 is only seen early mornings, by afternoon it is gone. 13 is hit or miss.

Can't really comment w/o knowing the equipment you are using.
post #16912 of 17106
half way through october and still no GetTV...
post #16913 of 17106
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Originally Posted by Aero 1 View Post

half way through october and still no GetTV...
Yesterday. I saw on 17-1 something like GetTV.org with preacher, it is christian broadcast, among others showing 700Club and the likes
17-3 is entirely Korean Christian broadcast
post #16914 of 17106
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Originally Posted by Aero 1 View Post

half way through october and still no GetTV...

well cause it hasn't launched yet. As mentioned on this thread before it will be a subchannel of WFUT & WFTY.
post #16915 of 17106
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Originally Posted by AloEuro View Post

Yesterday. I saw on 17-1 something like GetTV.org with preacher, it is christian broadcast, among others showing 700Club and the likes
17-3 is entirely Korean Christian broadcast

thats a different gettv on a different channel. Im talking about the new movie channel.
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Originally Posted by nyctveng View Post

well cause it hasn't launched yet. As mentioned on this thread before it will be a subchannel of WFUT & WFTY.

well obviously, it was just a conversation starter and i know its going on the spanish channel, i posted it.
post #16916 of 17106
Sony is the king of vaporware.
post #16917 of 17106
Reception on channels 2,4,5,9, and 11 have been very spotty the last couple of weeks here in central NJ. Is there work going on at the ESB transmitters/antennas or is there just a lot of extreme EM interference lately? Sun spots? Solar flares? reduced transmitter power? The reception on these channels was o.k. for several years until recently, but now we're getting a lot of pixellation/dropouts, mostly in the evening around 6 to 11 PM. Any notions what's going on?
post #16918 of 17106
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Originally Posted by fredd View Post

Reception on channels 2,4,5,9, and 11 have been very spotty the last couple of weeks here in central NJ. Is there work going on at the ESB transmitters/antennas or is there just a lot of extreme EM interference lately? Sun spots? Solar flares? reduced transmitter power? The reception on these channels was o.k. for several years until recently, but now we're getting a lot of pixellation/dropouts, mostly in the evening around 6 to 11 PM. Any notions what's going on?

No problems noticed here in Randolph so far. Expecting some changes with the change in seasons and leaf fall.

Tell us about your antenna, etc......
post #16919 of 17106
I've got a 8 bay bow-tie with a rotor and mast mounted, low noise, 15db gain amp, at a 30 foot elevation-agl (we're ~91 ft. asl). About 50ft of RG6 downlead and gen.4 ATSC tuner. As I mentioned in the previous post, reception here has been very good (for several years now) until just a few weeks ago when we started losing 2 & 4 sporatically and 5 ,9, &11 for days at a time. Someone on another thread mentioned that there has been an abnormal increase in tropospheric activity lately so I was wondering if anyone on this thread has been experiencing similar reception problems (or knows of problems at the ESB transmitters).
post #16920 of 17106
Ok..thanks for the info. We need to see if someone near you using OTA has the same issue. If not, it may be something with your exact location or your equipment.

As I said where I am at there have not been any issues....so perhaps you are seeing more tropo than I am if that is possible. I can't tell how far from me you are.
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