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post #241 of 17108
The thought is that they don't update their site regularly. If there was a back up plan one would think we would have heard about it by now. I won't hold my breath until we get definitive word, which I don't expect until March or April.

Doug
post #242 of 17108
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Originally posted by Paperboy2003
The thought is that they don't update their site regularly. If there was a back up plan one would think we would have heard about it by now. I won't hold my breath until we get definitive word, which I don't expect until March or April.

Doug

Oh, ye of little faith...Take heart. I just heard from an authoritative source in the broadcast engineering industry that WABC-TV has its own plans for resuming digital broadcasting. And yes, the early November date on their website is as firm as things get in New York. The key development is that, come November, those splendid digital pixels will not be coming from the Empire State Building where lawyers for the stations are still squabbling, but from a different location in the heart of Times Square!
post #243 of 17108
Yes ! Great news lets hope its true.
post #244 of 17108
I'm in Rockland county, NY and just set up a RS U-75R (UHF Yagi)in my attic pointed to 186°, no preamp and pulling in 2-1(CBS), 5-1 (FOX) and 5-2(UPN) all about 85%. However, I can't get a signal for 12-1(PIX). Does anyone know why? Is it because my antenna is having problems with channel 12 or is the station's power so low that I can't pick it up or is the direction different than 186°.
post #245 of 17108
jb- I'm in Fairfield County, CT, and have the same situation. I can get CBS & FOX/UPN but no WPIX (which is actually UHF channel 33, shouldn't be a problem with the antenna). I believe it's a power issue?

Anyone outside of city limits getting WPIX-DT?
post #246 of 17108
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Originally posted by Chri
I can get CBS & FOX/UPN but no WPIX (which is actually UHF channel 33, shouldn't be a problem with the antenna). I believe it's a power issue?

WPIX-DT is not yet on channel 33. They are temporarily on VHF channel 12 at about 125 watts.
post #247 of 17108
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Originally posted by Bogney Baux
WPIX-DT is not yet on channel 33. They are temporarily on VHF channel 12 at about 125 watts.

Well I guess that's part of my problem! I was going off antennaweb.org which said 33 was now live. I tried 12 though, still nothing - I think I have a better chance of getting stations from Philly.
post #248 of 17108
I can pick up ch 12 in Northern NJ using a preamp and a simple pair of rabbit ear antenna oriented in just the right way. Not as reliable as CBS, but I was able to watch several shows without much problem.
post #249 of 17108
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Originally posted by MicroChip
At least for now, http://www.abc45online.com/ still maintains that ABC-DT expects to begin digital transmission in early November (a month away).

Isn't there somebody we can contact at WABC to ask them? Clearly if the Empire combiner deal is dead until at least March, that WABC either has a backup plan to get on the air next month, or does not update a site that we monitor with great regularity.

Thoughts?

MC

If you go here it states that both ABC and NBC are to resume broadcasting in Dec of this year. Is that site not accurate as well?
post #250 of 17108
"If you go here it states that both ABC and NBC are to resume broadcasting in Dec of this year. Is that site not accurate as well?"

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Someone in the past has said that the dates on that site are simply permit dates that have to be renewed every six months, hence 12/31 and 6/31.

Time will tell....

Doug
post #251 of 17108
is CBS2 now doing 5.1 fulltime? it started with the giant game today and has continued thru. any thoughts?
post #252 of 17108
No.

Sports are in 5.1. The only thing required to activate the 5.1 flag on your receiver is for the network engineer at WCBS to throw a switch, which he does right before the game to allow the 5.1 feed from the game. Usually, they forget to turn off the flag, which for non-5.1 material results in 2.0 sound from the left and right speakers only (Depends on your receiver). It's just a flag which means nothing.
post #253 of 17108
Speaking of the 5.1 sound for the Giants game... I found that in my setup the channels carrying the crowd noise, especially the rear channels, were so loud that they completely drowned out the announcers. I had to force the receiver into stereo mode in order to hear what Simms had to say. Did anyone else notice this, and is it something that WCBS controls, or is it controled by the network feed? I guess it doesn't really matter because the Giants losing pretty much made watching the game miserable anyway.
post #254 of 17108
I didn't notice anything. A couple of weeks ago, CBS made one of the college games so loud in the surrounds that my speakers were crackling. Today it seemed ok though.

Anyway, off to watch another episode of the Practice in standard definition.
post #255 of 17108
I'm thinking about unsubscribing to this thread. I have Cablevision for cable, and between them and OTA, like this thread, HDTV in the metro NYC area is just standing still. I bitched about it like a year ago, and people gave me a bunch of "but what about 9/11" stuff, but that was over 2 years ago now, and Cablevision and the local networks have done nothing to restore the lost programming. Add to that the wars going on between cable companies and ESPN/ABC/Disney, and Cablevision putting all their HDTV focus on their crack satellite service which I hope gets hit by a meteor, instead of putting it on cable.

If there was a way I could screw them all I would. I'm thinking about trying to hook up one of those Canadian satellite systems, and getting DSL, and telling Cablevision to go suck a lemon.

MC
post #256 of 17108
I subscribe to this thread for the very reason that I have Cablevision and I am awaiting another solution to the lack of NBC, ABC, and WB on Cablevision's HD offerings. Still holding out hope of something happening on either front, both of which I monitor on avsforum and the iO yahoo group.
post #257 of 17108
The sound problem on yesterdays game was not that much of a problem I just turned down the surrounds down a little. What really sucked was the constant signal and sound dropouts all during the game there were times when there was no signal at all for 5 mins at a clip.

Needless to say it was very difficult to watch the game. BTW I received the signal OTA.
post #258 of 17108
My my Microchip, such anger!!! Your anger is better spent on more important things than HD. The fact is that when you first complained about OTA HD, it WAS too early to be talking that way! 9/11 was still fresh and it was unreasonable to have expected a return to normalcy. However now, over 2 years later it is not unreasonable to have expected restoration in the biggest market in the world. I do beleive at this point it is nothing more than excuse making on the part of the networks.

Why are you so opposed to the HD satellite venture by Cablevision?
post #259 of 17108
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Originally posted by MicroChip
If there was a way I could screw them all I would.
MC

Seems to me this is a matter for our elected officials to bring forcefully to the attention of the FCC.

Rather than get angry, perhaps we could get together with a letter to NY, NJ and CT senators and perhaps a US representative or two to pressure the FCC to, in turn, pressure the local stations.

Mel
post #260 of 17108
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Originally posted by Ken Ross
Why are you so opposed to the HD satellite venture by Cablevision?

Because I am one of their cable subscribers. They are not competitive with Time Warner, Comcast and RCN, all of whom serve surrounding towns, with respect to their HD offerings (and many other things). Now they've got an idea to charge me an additional $750 plus monthly fees if we want any more HD programming, and that STILL won't solve the primary problem of the OTA locals.

MC
post #261 of 17108
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Originally posted by Ken Ross
The fact is that when you first complained about OTA HD, it WAS too early to be talking that way! 9/11 was still fresh and it was unreasonable to have expected a return to normalcy. However now, over 2 years later it is not unreasonable to have expected restoration in the biggest market in the world. I do beleive at this point it is nothing more than excuse making on the part of the networks.

I just battled my way through the AVS search engine (high server load...blah blah blah) and I posted the original bitch on 12-26-02, more than a year after 9/11. Why was it "still fresh" then, but now it's "excuse making"? What's the limit for when it's ok to blame the networks? More than 2 years? Who decides?

I don't think it has anything to do with 9/11. I think they're delaying the restoration of their OTA signals so they can get the cable companies to pony up the money to carry them. And Cablevision isn't doing it, they only carry the networks that already ARE available OTA (CBS-DT, Fox-DT, PBS-DT). I think they're all nickel and diming each other to death and the ones who don't get to watch is US.

MC
post #262 of 17108
Thread Starter 
MC - Cablevision isn't carrying any HD signals in my area (Morristown). Even if they carry local HD signals, I suspect they'll charge more for the privilege of receiving them. Hmmm. I thought that cable companies had a "must carry" rule for local stations.

In any event, I'm going to write (once again) to my congressmen to complain about the situation. I understand that Lautenberg either doesn't have a web site, or refuses to accept them. Understandable, given his age and the way he was elected.

Still, I would think that reps from the NJ/NY are should be at least a little excited that their area is below many smaller cities in providing digital broadcasting. But maybe not - maybe they got a lot of money for their campaigns from networks and cable companies.

Disgusted with this whole mess.

C
post #263 of 17108
Has anybody else been experiencing issues receiving FOX lately? Luckily, I get it through Comcast also, but the OTA signal has not been very reliable out here. Lots of breakups and many times I haven't even been able to pick up a signal. I've had no problems with CBS and WPIX, so it wouldn't appear to be hardware related. Anyone else?
post #264 of 17108
cpto, what are you talking about? I am in the Morristown area and get all the CV HD channels.
post #265 of 17108
I use an indoor antenna and find I have to readjust every couple of weeks to receive CBS, FOX, and PBS. PBS is always the hardest for me. CBS and FOX usually come in at 100 percent.
post #266 of 17108
Anyone have problems with WB last night? I tuned in during prime-time and I got 0% signal. I know they broadcast on a bunch of different channels. Which one should I program into my HiPix?
post #267 of 17108
Does anyone know if the WPIX had any HD last night? They haven't been doing HD lately.

PS To set up WPIX-DT, you need to tune to ch 12 first. After that, it doesn't matter if you do 12-1, 11-1, 11-2, 75-1, etc. all the same.
post #268 of 17108
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Originally posted by cpto
Cablevision isn't carrying any HD signals in my area (Morristown). Even if they carry local HD signals, I suspect they'll charge more for the privilege of receiving them. Hmmm. I thought that cable companies had a "must carry" rule for local stations.

In any event, I'm going to write (once again) to my congressmen to complain about the situation. I understand that Lautenberg either doesn't have a web site, or refuses to accept them. Understandable, given his age and the way he was elected.

You might want to double-check your situation before firing off a letter to your congressman. I'm pretty sure CV has been providing HD to the Morristown area since early in the year.
post #269 of 17108
groups.yahoo.com has io.tv group..
Here, in Bergen Country with io.tv u get fox, msg, hbp, sho, cbs, fox (ed) and pbs in HD... u need 4200hd box and io.tvt service ($65+)
post #270 of 17108
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Originally posted by MLM
Seems to me this is a matter for our elected officials to bring forcefully to the attention of the FCC.

Rather than get angry, perhaps we could get together with a letter to NY, NJ and CT senators and perhaps a US representative or two to pressure the FCC to, in turn, pressure the local stations.

Mel

I took my own advice today and sent letters and emails to the two New York senators and to my congressman, Gary Ackerman.

Suggest you all do the same.
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