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post #1441 of 8475
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Originally Posted by David James View Post

I couldn't agree more. I would love to see a system where in addition to full band shots, each performer would have a camera dedicated to them. Then let me decide who I wanted to see in close ups. This concept becomes a bit complicated with full symphonic orchestra concert DVD's, however

I have a Genesis DVD, The Way We Walk, Live at Earl's Court, which does just that. I don't think its multiangle for every song, but on the vast majority you can pick a band member and just watch that musician. That and a King Crimson DVD called Vroom have the most extensive multiangle options I believe to date on a concert DVD.
post #1442 of 8475
Yep VROOM has that feature....The video quality on that disk is pretty poor though, with these washed out blues that play havoc with my Panasonic system.

I actually like the sweeping panoramic scans of the audience, and glimpses of people in the audience, thats part of the concert experience too IMHO. I dont mind shots of the band getting ready for the show... and the audience streaming in.

but I agree ... fast editing is often overdone to the point of being unwatchable. Perfect Square is saved by an excellent director though ... he captures the ambience of the place.

Theres a Jethro Tull concert DVD where they constantly alternate between 2 different shows, one shot during the day, and one at night! The director should be shot!
post #1443 of 8475
Of course, "Bullet in a Bible" breaks several rules, and still manages to completely rock
:
1. They use fast editing
2. They put documentary shots between every song or 2
3. The camera is constantly moving ...

All stuff I would normally hate, but ... the dang thing works. The Director I think got an award for it.
post #1444 of 8475
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Originally Posted by JohnR_IN_LA View Post

Theres a Jethro Tull concert DVD where they constantly alternate between 2 different shows, one shot during the day, and one at night! The director should be shot!

I have it, don't forget the "cool psychedelic" color palette change. Definately a 5" TV DVD

Being shot is way to kind.
post #1445 of 8475
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Originally Posted by JohnR_IN_LA View Post

I actually like the sweeping panoramic scans of the audience, and glimpses of people in the audience, thats part of the concert experience too IMHO. I dont mind shots of the band getting ready for the show... and the audience streaming in.


I don't mind crowd shots as long as they are judiciously done and not overdone. I do like to know the ambience of the concert setting especially if its unique/outdoors etc (and not some plain vanilla arena). I especially enjoy crowd shots on hot summer days in outdoor venues. Which is especially why I treasure my PPV recording of Woodstock 1994 and their unedited unrated showing of that show. Lots of gratuitous oogling shots of females. BTW, that is where Green Day became involved in a huge mudfest with the crowd and kept playing while mudchunks were being pelted at them--pretty funny stuff. The ending song by Peter Gabriel singing Biko with over 100,000 singing and holding candles in unison still gives me tingles up the spine.

I am really surprised that one of my other taped treasures has never made it to video--the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inaugural concert at Cleveland's now torn down Municipal Stadium from 1995. What a lineup of bands, truly a once in a lifetime show, and I am really irritated I didn't go in person. Some great combinations of bands--Springsteen opening with Chuck Berry and then playing with Jerry Lee Lewis and then Bob Dylan; Soul Asylum playing with Iggy Pop and then Lou Reed; John Fogerty playing with Booker T and the MGs; John Mellancamp singing with Martha Reeves and then Johnny Cash and on and on. Rights issues will probably prevent an official release on this.
post #1446 of 8475
"Theres a Jethro Tull concert DVD where they constantly alternate between 2 different shows, one shot during the day, and one at night! The director should be shot!"

The Van Halen-Right Here Right Now DVD is also shot this way...though not day and nite it was shot on consecutive nites. The director says something like it took two nites to capture the band in all its glory...or something like that. I still like the DVD! Eric
post #1447 of 8475
Yep well most Concert DVDs are actually shot over at least 2 shows. But the directors job is to make you think its one concert, and as long as they preserve that feel, I am ok with it.

They do this so they can edit out technical and even musical mistakes, and to grab the best footage from 2 shows can enhance the experience.
post #1448 of 8475
i probably have about 30 concerts on dvd and the one that sounds the best would have to go to 311. it just sound incredible. the base is awsome. even with my subs off i can feel my chest shake!
post #1449 of 8475
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Originally Posted by speeeedy View Post

i probably have about 30 concerts on dvd and the one that sounds the best would have to go to 311. it just sound incredible. the base is awsome. even with my subs off i can feel my chest shake!


Which DVD? "LIVE IN NEW ORLEANS" or "ENLARGED TO SHOW DETAIL"
post #1450 of 8475
live in new orleans. sorry!
post #1451 of 8475
Based on recommendations from this group I picked up this DVD over the holidays and after multiple viewings on a 50 in plasma connected to a 7.1 surround system I have the following comments:

Picture quality is very good. As noted by earlier posters it is much better than the Hell Freezes Over concert DVD.

Audio quality is also very good. Actually it is too good for a live concert. I am convinced that the audio track has been overlaid and remixed in the studio with other recordings. If you look closely at the video you can see that the performers lips and some of the instruments are not in true synch with the audio. Also the audience is very quiet or non-existent which is highly unusual for a rock concert inside a large arena.

I also have the Phil Collins Farewell Tour DVD and it's absolutely stunning. The picture quality is first rate as well as the audio. You can feel the energy of the performance and no audio trickery as far as I am concerned. Highly recommended.

By the way, this is a great thread. Keep on posting.
post #1452 of 8475
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Originally Posted by expressmoria View Post

Audio quality is also very good. Actually it is too good for a live concert. I am convinced that the audio track has been overlaid and remixed in the studio with other recordings.

Most live concert releases (CD and/or DVD) are overdubbed in the studio. Usually lead vocals are re-cut, and flubbed notes on guitar and/or bass are re-played.

In the case of Peter Gabriel's Secret World Live, not much of the audio on the disk is the original tracks. Peter is a perfectionist and that presentation was an "art piece", so he spend over a year in the studio working on it. There are overdubs everywhere, which is why it sounds so amazing.

If you heard Ozzy live on DVD without overdubs or pitch correction, you'd ask for your money back. I prefer the fixes and the processing for my entertainment dollar.

A good example of *not* fixing a vocal is the newer Deep Purple DVDs with Steve Morse on guitar. Listen to Ian Gillan sing. I would have preferred overdubs.

The giveaway is the sync and the level. Watch when a vocalist pulls pack from the mic to sing a phrase with more dynamics - if the level doesn't change, it's an overdub.

Another one to watch is the cymbals and hi-hat. Drummers that are out of time, or shows where the rest of the band's recording sounded slamming but the drums were a little weak - keep an eye on the cymbal work. What you see will not match what you hear.
post #1453 of 8475
Loggins & Messina, Sittin' in Again-Live at the Santa Barbara Bowl

Widescreen, dts, no dd 5.1, 2hr.20min show

Very nice one
post #1454 of 8475
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Originally Posted by TBert View Post

Loggins & Messina, Sittin' in Again-Live at the Santa Barbara Bowl

Widescreen, dts, no dd 5.1, 2hr.20min show

Very nice one

TBert:
Please check this again. The only version of this concert that I can find is full frame and DD5.1. If you are correct, would you please post the UPC - perhaps that will facilitate my search.
Thanks.
post #1455 of 8475
Wow, long thread! I don't know if this one has been mentioned yet but I just got the Los Lonely Boys Live in Austin DVD from Walmart for about $10. Sound and PQ are excellent.

Does anyone have a list of all of the quality, worth owning concert DVDs similar to the reference DVD list in that thread?

Thanks.
post #1456 of 8475
That list may be too subjective ... since some of us think the performance is what matters, while others feel that the band can be mediocre, but the AQ and PQ have to be excellent.

Then theres the song catalog, which I think is pretty important, a band that doesnt have enough quality material to put on a show shouldnt be doing a DVD.

So A good place to start is to decide what bands you want to see most, then do searches on their DVDs...

Heres some from my tastes:

Current Rock
Green Day: Bullet in a Bible - 65,000 brits get owned by this 3 person punk tour-de-force! Powerful song catalog.. Among the most amazing concerts Ive ever seen
Prince: Unto The Rave 2000 - Watch Prince rip lead guitar through his rock/funk catalog, with other musicians dropping in for powerful perfomances.

Watch Prince play The Electric Blues with awesome guest bluesmen for several tunes.. Watch Prince dance with several excellent dancers, keeping up with them. Watch Prince show why he is hugely respected by other performers, for both his catalog and his mastering over multiple instruments and styles of music.
R.E.M.: A Perfect Square - Woah these guys bring down the house in Germany with a powerful vocal performance by Michael Stipe.

Classic Rock Artists
Roger Waters: In the Flesh - Powerful performance widely lauded on the forum, by God himself.
David Gilmour: In Concert - Not to be outdone, Gilmour does a reference audio concert thats innovative and so pleasing to the ears. He replaces Water's bass with a pretty girl with a big cello, and it works so well.

Led Zepplin: "DVD" - See why this super-band was "ALL THAT". This is THE historical Concert DVD to own. I wasnt a huge Page fan ... until I saw this! And the other members keep up with him!

Eagles: Farewall Tour 1 - Excellent ... Hell Freezes over aint bad either ..

Country
Dixie Chicks - An Evening With ... - suprisingly powerful song catalog in a beautiful theater, stunning.
THe Chieftans - Down the old Plank Road ... country/bluegrass/irish acoustic instrumental and vocal tour de force, 40 top performers! If you wanted to hear everything Country has to offer, this has it all.

Folk:
Jewel: Live at Humphries - An angelic voice, a rousing acoustic guitar, and the folksy ability to trade jabs and telll her stories with the audience ... about hitchiking alone through Canada, the US, and Mexico, for example.

Jazz:
Diana Krall: Live in Paris - reference sound and wonderfully shot, beautiful tones..

Rap:
Eminem: Anger Management Tour - This guy has 5 mega gold records for a reason

Assorted:
Live Eight: 4 disk set - Huge and Great
Live Aid: 4 disk set - Huge and Great

Disclaimer: My recommendations are heavily weighted towards the performance ...Audio and Video quality must only be " good for the year it was filmed" ...
post #1457 of 8475
mnilan,
I purchased the "Loggins & Messina" DVD 2 weeks ago. It's become one of my favorites.
Mine is DTS and widescreen. This DVD rivals Eagles (Melbourne) Let me know if this helps:

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post #1458 of 8475
Hello Everyone,

I am seeking info on a movie I saw in 1983 about AC-DC. All that I really remember about the film (forget the fact that I was under the influence of mind altering substances at the time) is the following:

1) Shot during the Bon Scott years.

2) Probably low budget due to the fact that the interviews with the various band
members were conducted while they were seated on a bed (one at a time)
in what looked like a cheap motel room. The "Interviewer" was un-seen off
camera.

3) Tons of in concert footage.

4) A "Music Video" sequence featuring a Biplane and a either a powder blue or
silver Porsche 928. The biplane was either flown by a band member and or
had one seated in the passenger seat. The 928 was driven by Phil Rudd the
band's drummer...I think.

Does that film ring a bell with you former (or current) head bangers? If so, is it available on DVD or (cringe) VHS? If not, does any simply know the name of this movie?
post #1459 of 8475
Please check this again. The only version of this concert that I can find is full frame and DD5.1. If you are correct, would you please post the UPC - perhaps that will facilitate my search.
Thanks.

mnilan

I have same UPC # as markeetaux, it is not going to say widescreen on the back of the box, it was just a pleasant surprise, lol, and its anamorphic too.
post #1460 of 8475
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Originally Posted by JohnR_IN_LA View Post

Jazz:
Diana Krall: Live in Paris - reference sound and wonderfully shot, beautiful tones..

I fully agree with JohnR_IN_LA. The Diana Krall Live in Paris is a must for your jazz collection. The picture quality is absolutely first rate and the audio is outstanding. There is also a full orchestra accompanying Diana and her group.

If any of you have recommendations of any other jazz concert DVDs that match or exceed this one please post them here.

Cheers.
post #1461 of 8475
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Originally Posted by expressmoria View Post

I fully agree with JohnR_IN_LA. The Diana Krall Live in Paris is a must for your jazz collection. The picture quality is absolutely first rate and the audio is outstanding. There is also a full orchestra accompanying Diana and her group.

If any of you have recommendations of any other jazz concert DVDs that match or exceed this one please post them here.

Cheers.

There seems to be so many different types of jazz - my recommendation is very different than Diana Krall. It's Lee Rintenour - Overtime. It was recommended and discussed a short while ago. Anyway, the AQ of this disk is one of the VERY FEW disks that is very good. I'm not too big of a jazz fan, but I really enjoyed this one. PQ is also good. Also Bruce Hornsby 3 Nights on the Town has a strong jazz flavour. The performance is quite good - but the AQ and PQ are not the same high standard as Lee Ritenour (but then most disks aren't) - simply adequate mediocre - but not down right awful like most disks.

Ed
post #1462 of 8475
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Originally Posted by expressmoria View Post

I fully agree with JohnR_IN_LA. The Diana Krall Live in Paris is a must for your jazz collection. The picture quality is absolutely first rate and the audio is outstanding. There is also a full orchestra accompanying Diana and her group.

If any of you have recommendations of any other jazz concert DVDs that match or exceed this one please post them here.

Cheers.

If you like the Diana Krall disk I think you would enjoy Lee Ritenour's "Overtime". It's a two disk set with contributions from many great jazz artists. No DTS but the 5.1 Surround track is excellent.
post #1463 of 8475
Noticed a couple of posts mentioning Jethro Tull. Thought I would pass along the news that the German Record Company ZYX Music informs me that a "limited number" of copies of the "Ian Anderson plays the Orchestral Jethro Tull" DVD released in America (NTSC Version)were "flawed" and contained "mistakes". Translation: the PQ was jerky MPEG quality at best and the audio mix was atrocious.

The good news I went directly to the official Jethro Tull website, clicked on the "e-mail Ian" link and let rip a torrent of criticism and commentary on the importance of "quality control" to an artist's integrity.

Lo and behold, I get copied an e-mail from "himself" to the President of ZYX requesting an explanantion and a replacement DVD for me.

I am happy to report that the replacement arrived less than 3 days later, with a personal apologies.

I would also recommend that anyone who has the slightest interest in seeing classic Tull completely re-interpreted (and Ian Anderson stoked by how much fun the musicians are having with his stuff) should pick this DVD up. If it is all about the performance for you...this should do it! IMHO PQ and AQ are also near impeccable.
post #1464 of 8475
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Originally Posted by ToastedAudiolab View Post

Hello Everyone,

I am seeking info on a movie I saw in 1983 about AC-DC. All that I really remember about the film (forget the fact that I was under the influence of mind altering substances at the time) is the following:

1) Shot during the Bon Scott years.

2) Probably low budget due to the fact that the interviews with the various band
members were conducted while they were seated on a bed (one at a time)
in what looked like a cheap motel room. The "Interviewer" was un-seen off
camera.

3) Tons of in concert footage.

4) A "Music Video" sequence featuring a Biplane and a either a powder blue or
silver Porsche 928. The biplane was either flown by a band member and or
had one seated in the passenger seat. The 928 was driven by Phil Rudd the
band's drummer...I think.

Does that film ring a bell with you former (or current) head bangers? If so, is it available on DVD or (cringe) VHS? If not, does any simply know the name of this movie?


The movie was titled Let There Be Rock and it was mostly made up of footage from a concert shot in Paris (a great show btw). Sadly, there is not (yet) a dvd version of this film. During the commentary track on the AC/DC dvd Live at Castle Donnington, rythmn guitarist Malcom Youg states that the multi track sound masters for the LTBR movie have been lost. So any future dvd would have to include either the 2 track or a remixed multi track. Personally, I would buy any version we could get in a heartbeat.
post #1465 of 8475
i cant believe they have not released nirvana unplugged and stone temple pilots unplugged. they were awsome.
post #1466 of 8475
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Originally Posted by PWRobinson View Post

(and Ian Anderson stoked by how much fun the musicians are having with his stuff) should pick this DVD up.

That reminded me of an interview I saw, where one of Ian's bandmembers was complaining about how hard it was to play Ian's music.

He said something to this effect: , " I should probably be saying how much fun I have going on the road with Ian, but .. the musicians in his band have to rehearse heavily just to have a hope of playing it, and when we are on the stage, it takes extreme concentration, his music is frankly, exhausting!!"

post #1467 of 8475
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Originally Posted by speeeedy View Post

i cant believe they have not released nirvana unplugged and stone temple pilots unplugged. they were awsome.


Good point. Alice in Chains unplugged is one of my favs.
post #1468 of 8475
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Originally Posted by airunz View Post

Good point. Alice in Chains unplugged is one of my favs.

also stained wasn't too shabie.
post #1469 of 8475
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Originally Posted by DB2 View Post

The movie was titled Let There Be Rock and it was mostly made up of footage from a concert shot in Paris (a great show btw). Sadly, there is not (yet) a dvd version of this film. During the commentary track on the AC/DC dvd Live at Castle Donnington, rythmn guitarist Malcom Youg states that the multi track sound masters for the LTBR movie have been lost. So any future dvd would have to include either the 2 track or a remixed multi track. Personally, I would buy any version we could get in a heartbeat.

Thanks for the heads up on this movie. Yes, I too would snap up any version I could get my hands on. Thanks again.
post #1470 of 8475
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Originally Posted by DB2 View Post

The movie was titled Let There Be Rock and it was mostly made up of footage from a concert shot in Paris (a great show btw). Sadly, there is not (yet) a dvd version of this film. During the commentary track on the AC/DC dvd Live at Castle Donnington, rythmn guitarist Malcom Youg states that the multi track sound masters for the LTBR movie have been lost. So any future dvd would have to include either the 2 track or a remixed multi track. Personally, I would buy any version we could get in a heartbeat.


Rumours continue to swirl that this will be released on DVD at some point, mainly because none of the footage was included in the Family Jewels set (the theory being that they held it back so they could release it separately).
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