Concert dvd recommendations - Page 265

It sounds like you might not grasp the concept. Calling it "overused" is a cop out.

Basically, it's like this. If a guitarist has chops and plays technically difficult arpeggios and runs and licks, but it doesn't express anything deeply emotional through his playing, then it's just wanking on the guitar. See Yngwie Malsteen as the prime example. He sure can play fast, but there's not an ounce of soul, i.e., genuine emotional expression, being conveyed to the listener in anything he's ever improvised.

On the other hand, some guitarists can express in a few notes, with vibrato, bending, releasing, hammering on or pulling off, or using other techniques or effects more than 1,000 words could convey. See some of B.B. King's short licks for example. Or check out some of David Gilmour's expressive and highly melodic solos for very emotional and expressive guitar playing. Even though he's playing with his fingers, Gilmour's playing comes from his heart (hence the term "soul") and is not mere technical wanking. Yngwie doesn't have anything to express, thus his playing is soulless. It's technical wanking.

Hell, listen to Robert Johnson or Elmore James or Son House or Lightnin' Hopkins. Those guys were getting out some really painful feelings through their playing, and you're pretty cold if you can't feel it while listening to them. That's soul. It has nothing to do with what we label "soul music." It's expressing your emotions through your playing and being able to convey them to your listener.

My soul comment and Clapton was sort of tongue in cheek but it was surprising to see the Supremes as one of his listening albums. I do know the difference between soul music and what you call soul but I call authentic blues music.

I don't disagree with your analysis and I think Yngwie is the most boring musician I have ever heard. That said, I can enjoy both the "soul/blues" musician and the technical playing. In some cases, like Johnson, James, etc, I think some of their "soul" came from drink and drugs especially if you read some of the accounts of the blues guys that were playing in England as the Stones rose to prominence.

I do like Gilmour but not as much as you. I do think he plays from the heart but I don't find him as engaging as you do. Generally, some of what you talk about involves vibrato. I think Clapton used to be a master of it but he doesn't use it to as much effect on his more recent playing (or maybe he is just getting older). Sustain and vibrato do invoke emotion in music as does dynamics. One of the things I like about JoeB is that in concert he plays both loud and soft (for emotional effect) something you don't see many of the shedders do. The best I have ever seen as a band using it was the original Allman Brothers. They made it into almost classical sounding orchestral music. I also think JoeB is still evolving as I saw him quite awhile ago and thought he was pretty derivative. I still see some of that but he has such technical chops that I think he can pretty much go whereever he wants.

An example of a current banjo player who I think plays with "soul" but technically seems pretty crappy is Otis Taylor. He sometimes surrounds himself with good musicians but even with all his "soul" can get boring. KebMo seems to have a little bit of both soul and technical chops.

The recent PBS special blues at the white house was interesting. I don't think Beck, Jagger, or some of the others came off very well, but Tedeski, Trucks and Haynes had more what you would call "soul" than all the rest combined. Trucks solo was awesome in my opinion.

... I grasp the concept.

Yeah I don't believe a word of all that, its all made up in your head. It helps justify who you feel is worthy of praise and who is not.

I agree and feel pretty much the same way.

People like some guitarists, don't like others, great. Why not just leave it at that? Why must people offer up all these other justifications - "no soul", give me a break.

It's like people are insecure in their own opinions and need to over hype to convince others. Who cares what others think, I like JB more than SRV. I really don't care if others agree or disagree. My enjoyment does not improve or diminish depending on how others feel.

Lastest purchases:

• Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers: Live (5 stars)
  
• Iron Maiden: En Vivo! (1 star)
  
• Joe Bonamassa Beacon Theatre - Live From New York (5 stars)
  
• Alter Bridge: Live At Wembley (5 stars)

Four out of five ain't bad.........

Jethro Tull's Thick As A Brick 2 is coming out next week.

Has anyone heard it yet?
Is there a re-mastered TAAB 1 included?

I haven't heard it yet, but I did a thread on this in the Surround Music section you may want to dig up, since it will be available with a 5.1 mix...

The original Thick as a Brick is not included with the sequel.

I just ordered it from Amazon...... Due at my door April 3!

Ian is nothing but a classic flute shredder. All fanciful runs and wispy pretension. He prances around in a jaunty manner to distract the audience from the fact that he was a fraud. Thick as a Brick was his indictment of the audience who fell for it.

The above may or may not be true.

Saw him and his band live once in 1969. Sat close to the stage, in a smallish venue. Believe me, he was no fraud.

I also saw him and the band live in 1969, Newport Rock Festival '69, and you are right, no fraud at all.....

Anyone expecting TAAB II to be another TAAB I will be sorely disappointed.

For one thing, it's essentially a solo project (meaning no Martin Barre).

That saddens me.

I have loved TAAB 1 since its release...
Unfortunately, after listening to the Amazon MP3 previews, I am not impressed with the sequel....

I received and watched Joe Bonamassa's BD Live from the Beacon Theater.

As far as audio and video, it sounds and looks much like his Albert Hall concert.

The set is almost completely different so from that perspective, it's nice. The songs, however, I'd rate slight lower then Albert Hall. As for his guests, I like one of the Beth Hart numbers, one of John Hiatt's and "meh" on both Paul Rogers '.

Joe's playing is top notch.

All in all, a worthwhile purchase.

I have the Albert Hall BD, and I'm watching a recording of the Beacon Theater concert right now which was on Palladia, so I've got enough Joe B. for the time being I think.

I'm pretty sure his drummer was one of many popular celebs seen in the audience at Cream's reunion concert at the Albert Hall in '05. Not sure who he is (I know, watch the credits at the end), but he's good.

Searched the thread, but no joy.

I can't believe no one has mentioned "Urgh! a Music War".

Mediocre audio quality, mediocre to awful video quality and some of the best 80's music ever.

Get it while you can

Joe's new drummer is Tal Bergman, who is more "rock" than his old drummer, Bogie, who to me was more precise. He is one of the two drummers on RAH, not sure which one though.
If all you have is the Palladia recording of Live At The Beacon, you need to rush right out and get the disc. It is excellent from start to finish.

The "other" drummer (stage right) on the RAH DVD is Anton Fig who has been in the Late Night With David Letterman Band since it's beginning.

Take Care

I was a bit disappointed with Solsbury Hill. It just felt naked without the guitar. The rest of the performance was fitting for an orchestra and very well arranged. I like what the Stix did with the youth orchestra, Peter Gabriel matched it.

The sound quality is incredible and I recommend it for those who like Peter.

Yes, he just escaped memory. The other drummer I was talking about was Bogie Bowles, who decided to leave the band. The two drummer set-up on RAH was outstanding, each playing off the other. It also seemed to increase the overall bass effect.

Steve Jordan was the original drummer for "The World's Most Dangerous Band," the Paul Shaffer-led house band on NBC's Late Night With David Letterman, from '82-'86. Anton Fig replaced Steve Jordan in 1986 and has been with Paul's band in various configurations since then.

Steve Jordan played with Keith Richards in the X-Pensive Winos, toured with Clapton several times, and backs up John Mayer and Pino Palladino in the John Mayer Trio. He's also produced a lot of great gigs. One of my favorite drummers.

I dig Anton, too.

You ain't kidding mister! Awesome workout for my recently re-foamed sub.

The Raconteurs: Live at Montreux 2008

Released on June 19, 2012



The Raconteur's performance from Live At Montreux in 2008 will be released on DVD and Blu-Ray on June 19 through Eagle Rock Entertainment.

It will mark the first ever live DVD release for The Raconteurs, which is made up of Jack White, Brendan Benson along Greenhornes members Jack Lawrence and Patrick Keeler, and will features tracks such as 'Steady As She Goes', 'Many Shades of Black', 'Broken Boy Soldier' and 'Salute Your Solution'.

The performance was in support of their second album however, the set-list is made up of tracks from both albums.

Track-listing

1) Consoler Of The Lonely
2) Hold Up
3) You Don't Understand Me
4) Top Yourself
5) Old Enough
6) Keep It Clean
7) Intimate Secretary
8) Level
9) Steady, As She Goes
10) The Switch And The Spur
11) Rich Kid Blues
12) Blue Veins
13) Many Shades Of Black
14) Broken Boy Soldier
15) Salute Your Solution
16) Carolina Drama

I've heard a couple of their songs from Bonnaroo DVD's (pretty good stuff)


Also, I'm giving the new Styx DVD 5 stars...... I don't care if so and so ain't around anymore.

recently picked this up.

the pcm stero track is very good. the 4:3 format and the quality of the video itself though....it's not worthy of what is a very good concert. Even the camera work I find to be substandard...

the audio portion of this is great, but the video is poor considering it was recorded in 2008.

Pick up "Songs from The Road" which is proper HD and also has a great audio mix.

Ronnie Montrose passed away...

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/musi...r-reports.html

clinical depression, my black dog.......

Heart Soundstage

Does anyone have this on blu ray?

it seems that Lindsey Buckinghams's soundstage blu ray is coded for region A,B and C, despite it being advertised as region A.

can anyone, who has the Heart soundstage blu ray, check if this is the case with this release as well?

on beyond thanks

(or indeed, if it is the case of all soundstage blu rays..)