Toledo, OH - HDTV - Page 12

The 4248 has 10.8 db of gain while the 91x has 16.7 db of gain. So, the 91x has a stronger "pull". the closest thing Channel master has is a 4228 that has 12 db of gain.

no idea on who could install it, but give this link a try to help you select an antenna...

http://www.antennaweb.org/aw/welcome.aspx

happy Mpeg,

Steve

I have a toshiba 51H83 with a DVI-D (HDCP compliant) input as well as component. I used to have the Buckeye HD box with the DVI output and connected it to my TV set. It looked great.

Then I got the hairbrained idea to switch to a DVR and did so. I got the Moto 6412 III HD DVR box but it has an HDMI and no DVI. I got a HDMI-DVI adapter to connect to my TV but the picture looked horrible. HORRIBLE I tell ya.

The HD channels were not as crisp as it was with the regular HD box. In fact, it isn't even close. When I try to view non-HD channels, there is an even more marked decrease in picture quality.

I bought a new monster DVI cable and used the same adapter to plug into the back of the DVR box. Still no better. I tried a Radio Shack HDMI/DVI cable and still fared no better. When I use component cables, the picture is much clearer than with the HDMI/DVI.

Why? Can anyone offer any suggestions? Is anyone else having the same issues?

This is really dis-heartening since I thoroughly enjoyed all of the HD channels but now feel that I simply cannot get that picture again unless I go back to the regular (non-DVR) HD box.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

Tim

I have heard that the Moto 6412 version III box has some issues. One includes an audio output difference between cable & the DVR. I'll forward your issue to the BCS Moto Rep.

I have the audio issues with the phase 3 6412, buckeye is working with me to resolve them asap. They have been VERY helpful, and responsive. My issues are with Dolby Digital when using the HDMI output.

As for video quality, I am converting HDMI to DVI and have flawless HD and much improved SD over both a phase 1 6412 (with DVI) and a regular HD box without DVR over Component.

Also my father is connected via HDMI with a phase III box and has perfect HD (just a bit crisper than with Component).

Perhaps you have a bad box, or a bad DVI to HDMI Converter. I am using a Monster Cable converter (~$40 bucks at Best Buy), and a cheapo DVI cable.

I just bought a brand new 12' HDMI-DVI cable from Circuit City. I'll give that a try tomorrow. I also picked up a copy of digital video essen. from Barnes & Noble (I was certain Jamieson's would sell it but, sadly, no) and will try and calibrate my set. I have moved it around a few times plugging this and that in and out.

I'll post a reply tomorrow night with the results after I get my set re-calibrated and the new cable hooked up.

Tim

Are the OTA HD signals form the Toledo are all UHF? I was tolded that the CbS and ABC were VHF signals. I was looking at buying only a UHF antenna. Do I need to add a VHF element?

Are the OTA HD signals form the Toledo are all UHF? I was told that the CbS and ABC were VHF signals. I was looking at buying only a UHF antenna. Do I need to add a VHF element?

I'm using a quad bowtie antenna for OTA and it's UHF. No problem as of yet getting everything. Unless they changed recently I believe you may have been misinformed but then I could be wrong.

Thanks fro the info, can you give me the channel numbers?

DTV Call Sign Channel Network Frequency

* WNWO-DT 24.1 NBC 49
* WUPW-DT 36.1 FOX 46
* WTOL-DT 11.1 CBS 17
* WTVG-DT 13.1 ABC 19
* WGTE-DT 30.1 PBS 29
* WLMB-DT 40.1 IND 5

Guys, here's an inside FYI for you all.
VidEditor

Beginning April 1, ESPN will begin accepting 16x9 high-definition commercials for its two simulcast HDTV services: ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD.

ESPN will allow an advertiser to produce a single commercial for both SD and HDTV. Each commercial, which will be produced center cut to accommodate displays on both ESPN and ESPN HD or ESPN2 and ESPN2 HD, will be aired simultaneously on the HD and SD services.

ESPN HD and ESPN2 HD will combine in 2006 to deliver more than 600 major events plus more than 2000 programs totaling more than 6500 hours in HD featuring live programming, movies and series.

Thanks. Now if Buckeye would just come to an agreement with ESPN2 HD we'd be good to go.

Seems ESPN is pulling a FOX & NBC move, where they are forcing systems to also purchase ESPNU if you want the Duece HD. Thus the per subscriber pricing is higher than systems can afford.
I have heard sometime in the first quarter ESPN HD2 will be avail. on BCS.

Does anyone know if Buckeye plans to add a UPN HD station in the near future? It's one of the few that we don't have yet that I want.

Thanks!

32 is TV Ontario, from Windsor, ONT

You may also want to try 54, which is the French language version of the CBC, also from Windsor.

Toledo over-the-air HDTV channels, network affiliations , digital, (analog) channel numbers, subchannels:

WTOL CBS 17 (11)
-1 CBS HD
-2 CBS SD
-3 Weather Radar

WTVG ABC 19 (13)
-1 ABC HD
-2 ABC News Now
-3 WTVG Weather Now

WNWO NBC 49 (24)
-1 NBC HD
-2 The Tube music videos
-3 NBC Weather Plus

WGTE PBS 29 (30)
-1 PBS Digital/HD
-2 PBS Family
-3 PBS World

WUPW FOX 46 (36)
-1 FOX HD
-2 Weather Radar

Well, thanks for all the great informaiton on the OTA HD, It sounds like the cable contract is going to be kaput and I will be puting up a dish and antenna. DOes anyone have any experience with the Off line tuner on the Dish 811 High Def reciver? THat is what I will be using to grab the OTA signal from a base UHF antenna, I have not settled on an antenna but I will be 20-25 up in a fairly rual area approximatly 38 mils for Toledo according to antenna web any suggestiong on an antenna?

The last two days have been excellent for DX'ing the Television band. Do a channel surf and you should see some more channels.

Folks,

i come home from vacation to find that Buckeye has messed around with the firewire output on the 6412 (ver2) again.

Now 1394 will not pass any signal from HDDiscovery, HDNET, HDNET movies of the IND or UHD channels! It worked two weeks ago. CBS/NBC/ABC/Fox are fine.

Mark Cuban does not copy protect anything so I cannot understand why they are blocking this.

I call buckeye customer service...the girl answering the phone had no idea what 1394 was...denied that the box had one...talked to her supervisor...the supervisor never heard of 1394 or firewire.

They then pull out a box and I point the ports out to them...they never knew these were there. The Customer service rep did not have the vocabulary or understanding to even know what I was trying to tell her.

What do I do?? Is there someone who reads this board who can contact a tech and Buckeye and check this out?

Thanks!

Tom

I think I may have fixed my problem with my new HD/DVR box via HDMI. I calibrated my set and everything seems to be doing fine now. Still, the new HD/DVR box still seems to be not as sharp as my previous HD box with the DVI output.

I did a little testing. I switched out the 6412 and put my other box a 6200 in its place. The 6200 passes ALL of the HD channels out 1394! So it is the 6412 V2 that has been somehow effected. The 6412 will pass all the network HD channels out of 1394...but none of the cable HD channels. The 6200 will pass all of them out.

Strange stuff!

And yet another followup...rehooked the 6412 back up....now 1394 passes all the HD channels! Not only that...but the copy never flags on IND and IND2 have been changed and now allow archiving.

Technology...makes you nuts

I'll PM you with an email address for someone who has been very responsive at Buckeye in case you still want to contact them.

Was I the only one watching the Pitt/Indy playoff game yesterady on WTOL and noticed that the signal stank? What is the problem; the broadcast signature is 1080i but it STANK. Is this a BuckeyeHD problem or a WTOL Toledo problem or a CBS national problem....

I was watching it on BuckeyeHD; OTA was even worse.

I look back through the archives and see lots of complaints about WTOL's HD signal. Who do we call/email/complain to? I find it impossible to believe that WTOL is unaware of the lousy quality; so why aren't they doing something about it?

OK, my turn to ask a question. Lost the post with the code and instructions for programing the DCT6412 "unmute" function. Similar to programing one of the A, B or C buttons for the 30 second skip but a different 4 digit code. Got a replacement remote and need to reprogram it. Who can help me?

Update: Never mind! I found it in this thread.
Thanks.

I see several postings with people posting the Quality of Channel 30.1 as flawless. Actually, this signal is NOT that good as it is sharing A LOT of bandwith to service the other High Definition feed on their adjacent subcarriers.

In my opinion, the best Television Broadcast is Channel 62.1 out of Detroit. It is superior than 11.1 and 2.1. Also, place Channel 56.1 as a "cleaner" signal than 30.1

Does anyone "in the know" know if TV5 will be part of the new CW network this fall? It would be real nice to get the old UPN shows (Veronica Mars) in HD on the new network.

How does everyone here like the functionality of the Motorola DVR? I just moved here from South Carolina, and am used to the Scientific Atlanta DVR, and am not impressed so far. I'll have to play with it more, but was suprised that you had to manually swap between the two tuners when you were using one to record, in order to change channels and watch something else. With the SA 8300 DVR, the unit uses the available tuners seamlessly without the user even knowing that anything was happenning. Do I have a setting wrong or something on my box, or is this thing a POS? Any advice for a displaced HD addict?

Thanks,
Mark

Marky,
Not having used the SA DVR, this is going to be a hard question. Your chan rec change issue only seems to happen when you do a manual rec. If you program a show to rec, then the DVR automatically uses the second tuner. The funky issue is when you have a show recording and then come home, assuming power was off when the show began, the the DVR puts on a MUTE automatically. There is a thread explaining how to program your remote to unmute the dvr box. I use the "C" button since it's easy to see the color red. Buckeye will send you the commands to program.
I thought the DVR would be my toy, but my wife has taken over broadcast control. She seems not to complain about the operations of it too much, so .... She even demos it to friends that come over. Sorry I can't compare apples. Since your from out of state, what do you think of the HD availability compared to your old system? I'll try to find that MUTE command & re-post it.
VidEditor

Marky, I did find trabbic's instructions to pgm your remote FFWD to skip ahead in :30 increments:

Program Fast Forward button to be the Skip button. You can do this with any button you want:

Press and hold Setup until red LED blinks twice.

Enter 994. LED blinks twice.

Press Setup once but don't hold it.

Enter 173.

Press Fast Forward key (or any other key). LED blinks twice. Set to go

Videditor, the HD offering here is about identical to what I had in South Carolina, give or take an HBO and Showtime or two. I'll have to reserve judgement on the HD picture quality until tomorrow night after I get my plasma hooked up. I'm supposed to receive it tomorrow. Currently I have the DVR hooked up to an SD set. Do you notice the DVR to react sluggishly to changing the channels? Seems it takes much longer to change the channel on this DVR than it did with the Scientific Atlanta model...

Thanks,
Mark