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post #31 of 2376
I currently have a Channel Master Suburban Advantage on a rotor on my roof top. It is has a UHF distance rating of 30 miles/vhf distance of 45 mi. I currently get all the analog pgh stations more clearly than my Comcast cable presents which I only use for cable only stations. I see that there are UHF antennas rated further in miles. Does that seem as though it would be necessary to get the digital locals?
joe
post #32 of 2376
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Has anybody heard word of carriage of WPXI-DT NBC from Comcast? I mean, I know they're having trouble with CBS but I never expected not to see NBC on the list too. Of course, it could be one of the two channels not listed on the site. Not that I'll miss that gasbag Leno, but I'd like to be able to get some kind of a signal when they start doing Conan in HD. It'll be bad enough doing acrobatics on my roof with my little antenna trying to receive any CBS NFL this year. God, I hope this CBS NFL deal puts the heat on Comcast to get a contract with CBS and soon...

::AARG!::

By the way, jlanzy-- you don't want the digital WPGH feed. It's worse than the analog one. You're best off with analog OTA WPGH. Can't attest to the quality of the WB, though.



Dan
post #33 of 2376
I guess the grass isn't always greener on the digital side of the spectrum! Maybe more a chartreuse.
joe
post #34 of 2376
Well it's being installed today (Thurs) between 12-4pm. Right now, I have OTA, so I'm curious to see if the picture quality will be comparable.

I have a Mits 65807 w/ RGBHV input and the Mot 5100 has component output for the HDTV hookup which usually requires a transcoder. I asked the CSR about the installation because I didn't want to waste half my day waiting for them to arrive and are unable to install it. I was assured by Comcast that they will have all the connections needed for installation on any TV. We'll see!!

Rich
post #35 of 2376
My installation was scheduled for next Saturday, but they called and then visited my home yesterday to do "game planning." I need a new undergrand drop using a higher grade cable than what is in place. The crew should be here in a day or two. I hope it rains so that my lawn will soften up a bit.

I'll be using the dish buy back program worth $400 in credits. Goodbye Charlie, promises of new HD service can only hold me for so long. I sure do hope that Comcast works out completely because this is called burning your bridges!
post #36 of 2376
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Rich:

I wouldn't be so sure about that. The box may have VGA out, but I seriously doubt it has RGBHV output. You may want to go out and pick up a transcoder early today to make sure you can get it hooked up, unless your TV also accepts Y Pb Pr component. Let us know how it goes.

My installation is planned for Aug. 15 -- the day I move into the house I'm getting it installed to. That should be... interesting. Somehow I doubt this will go well enough to have me watching ESPN-HD by that evening, and the Steelers game the next night. ::sigh:: Here's hoping.


Dan
post #37 of 2376
Just a tidbit of info. A co-worker had his Motorola 5100 installed yesterday afternoon. He says the HD content is already active now (well ahead of the 15th). He briefly watched the PBS demo loop and some ABC and Showtime last night. Didn't say anything about ESPN. He lives near Churchill and says the HD channels numbers are in the 800 range. He needed to reset some defaults on the box to tell it he had a 16:9 TV, etc.
post #38 of 2376
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I wonder how the availability of the boxes is coming along. The CSR told me when I called that the boxes were still coming in, and that they weren't positive they'd have them available for my Aug 15 installation. I guess if people are getting them already then there shouldn't be too much of a problem.
post #39 of 2376
What the heck? Just for kicks I entered my address in Cranberry (16066) and to my surprise it didn't say Comcast wasn't available. 2 cable systems can't use the same physical cable can they?
post #40 of 2376
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Agtiny: Um, don't you have Armstrong cable? In which case, you've had HD available to your for about a year now?
post #41 of 2376
Yes, but Armstrong is dragging their feet on ESPN-HD, HDNets, and Discovery. I know there is no cable competition and it's just a bug in Comcast's site, but it would be pretty fun to make an easy switch like that.
post #42 of 2376
Thread Starter 
yeah, but at least you could have all the locals. cbs-hd with their weekly nfl hd and nbc with conan in hd looming on the horizon are good things to have this fall. i might trade espn-hd for that.
post #43 of 2376
Yeah Armstrong is pretty good, and I don't really need ESPN until October 5, so I still have hope.
post #44 of 2376
Mits made a TV that has component inputs but doesn't support HD on those inputs? What were they smoking when they designed that?!
post #45 of 2376
I had to delete the earlier post because I had brain freeze while I was writing the previous post.

Well the installer just left and he was 2 hours late.

The installer didn't have a clue about this connection. He said it was the first TV he saw with the RGBHV. I cannot agree with that because he went straight for the component hookups and didn't bother looking at all the inputs on the back of the TV which are clearly labeled with 1080i and 480i/480P. So how would he know if he hooked up someone else wrong, I had to mention to him that the connection he made wasn't going to work. I would say they're programmed to go for the component. Blue to blue red to red green to green. If I was clueless about my TV, in which I'm sure there are alot of people that buy HDTV's that don't have a clue will get screwed. So if you have a Mits TV be aware you need to activate the RGBHV inputs in which the H and V are not used. Change the RGBHV(DTV) port to YPrPb not RGB. I asked if he had any training on HDTV and he said they are on the job training.

He did about 40 installs so far this week. They began installing HDTV boxes on Monday. They ran out of remotes, but they're using regular Digital box remotes. The only difference is the color and a few buttons are moved around.

Also they swapped out one of my other Digital boxes instead of adding one and now they can't add it back. I hope this is worth it.

Sorry agtiny, Mits is not smoking crack, I was for a bit.

Rich
post #46 of 2376
Comcast ad in today's Post Gazette touting next weekend's Steelers game in HDTV! Think it was in the sports section, but not sure.
post #47 of 2376
Ugh, we need to get some sort of confirmation on this. Will it be on KDKA or only on some exclusive Comcast channel? I need to know if I should invite some people over for the game or not.
post #48 of 2376
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I'm willing to bet it will not be on KDKA. I'm thinking that the only way and reason this is being done in HDTV is because the Philly CSN-HD people have access to the game for an HDTV production. I'd say the overwhelming likelihood is that this will appear on some sort of special event channel when the game comes on and that channel will go back to nothingness when it's over. There may not even be commercials, or the commercials could be from CSN-HD. Either that or it will air as a KDKA production both on a Comcast special event channel and KDKA-DT 25 over the air. I'm just hoping this is for real and that it is an indicator that Comcast intends to bring us either CBS or a whole lot of HD sports, and soon. They can't get away with not having CBS-HD for much longer now that the NFL will be in HD.
post #49 of 2376
Heh after seeing the picture quality of today's KDKA production, I'd be happy if they would broadcast in SD. This looks like weak OTA analog in a bad multipath area. KDKA certainly doesn't have the skills to do an HD broadcast.
post #50 of 2376
Man, you're telling me. I'm only watching the game on my old Sony 27" TV today but I noticed how poor the picture is. Lots of video noise.

Well, now that the starters are about done it's time to cut the grass (before any rain comes) and listen to the radio broadcast...
post #51 of 2376
Guys, I can officially tell you the KDKA feed next Saturday will be in HD OTA and on Comcast (I'm working that show).
post #52 of 2376
Mark, any details about how that's possible? KDKA has never done an HD production before, are they outsourcing it or what?
post #53 of 2376
Yeah, the announcer (Bob Pompeani) mentioned that next week's game will be in High-Def. Curious as to what kind of arrangement that is.

We'll need to figure out what channel on Comcast.
post #54 of 2376
I wasn't really listening but heard him say "like looking out a window", so I instantly came here to see who heard what he said. Hope it goes off without a hitch!
post #55 of 2376
I took his comments to mean it would be available to all meaning OTA as well as Comcast.
post #56 of 2376
I'm a new member here and just had my Comcast HDTV installed today. I can't say that I'm all that happy though. Let me explain. Comcast sent out a contracted installer to do the job. He arrived right on time armed with a new Motorola 5100 box, a Comcast "On Demand" universal remote control, and some cheap cables. I planned ahead and picked up some decent cables earlier in the week suspecting that this might happen. The installer told me that he and three other co-workers were doing around 70 to 80 installs per day (total) this week. He said that he didn't think that Comcast thought that HDTV would go over this well. When I asked about future programming he said that he was told that KDKA should be up and running before months end and that WPXI should be onboard next month. He also said that the Steeler game would be on a "separate HDTV channel around the others". I don't know if I take much stock in his word but here's hoping for the best. Anyway back to the install. He really didn't know much about HDTV and confessed that the employees received no training. My gripe is that I had a perfect picture before the install on most channels and after the Motorola HDTV box was installed my picture quality is now poor. Out of the four HDTV channels, only WQED is crystal clear. He said that Comcast was having a lot of problems with the Motorola 5100 boxes(a software problem he thinks) and that all of his installs had poor quality on non-HDTV channels. He said that they are working on it now and will add the new software if that's the case or maybe go to another box if needed. He also advised calling Comcast and arranging a tech to come out and look things over which I just did. Also as part of my gripe, I found out about an hour post install that a second cable box in another room no longer works. It seems that when he switched out the old box, Comcast cut service to both. When I called Comcast, the employee there had me go through the script of re-provisioning to no avail. She also said that employees there were not trained to handle HDTV questions except for the new script that they are to use. Well, a tech will be out on Tuesday and I hope that I can get a better picture. If not, I will need to decide if it is worth having poor picture quality on Non-HDTV channels versus HDTV.
Sorry for the long post, but wanted to tell all of my install and hope to hear from others about theirs.
post #57 of 2376
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bert-

are you watching the non-hdtv channels through the same component input as the HDTV channels? if you are, i'd suggest hooking up the s-video connection or composite video connection because from what i've heard, the motorola dct-5100s have notoriously bad scalers. also, you could try splitting the video signal before it reaches the box, and plugging one of the cables into the tuner on your TV and the other into the box. that way it's not involved in regular analog cable channels.

you (and everyone) should know the following: the motorola box is notorious for its poor picture quality on standard def material over the hd component outputs, and that the hdtv channels are known to usually be substantially darker than the rest of the channels. a lot of people reserve a picture setting for hdtv over cable and a different setting for sd material. give some of that a try. also, the firmware on the box could be pretty old for all you know. hopefully comcast will stay on top of the upgrades.


dan
post #58 of 2376
Thanks for the report Bert. A couple things:

Motorola DCT5100 product information

FAQ (includes information on firmware versions, etc. -- maybe check what version yours is vs. what the latest is)

It would be great, but I seriously doubt we will get KDKA-DT or WPXI-DT that soon. I doubt he knows what he's talking about on that subject.

Not all the HD channels are actually broadcasting HD all the time. Maybe only WQED was (demo loop?) when you watched. Watch ESPN-HD on Sunday (baseball) or Monday (football) nights and see how that is.

My install is scheduled for Monday.

How could Comcast not think HDTV would go over well? Circuit City and Best Buy and the like have been selling lots of HD-ready TVs the past few years and lots of them have only been used for DVD till now because (like me) their owners haven't gotten around to the initial investment and trouble to get OTA/Satellite STBs and antennas. But signing up for Comcast HDTV is a relatively painless step, so I'm not surprised that there's a lot of interest out there.
post #59 of 2376
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hondo-

they underestimate the appeal of hdtv probably because it just hasn't been a big deal until just recently. also, i think they didn't anticipate the uniqueness of the pittsburgh market in terms of both its financial status and the state of hdtv. for one thing, over the air reception is much much less viable here because of the terrain and weather, not to mention unpleasant scattering of the antennas and wtae's being at half-power. it makes a cable solution particularly attractive.

also, on the city-o-meter, pittsburgh ranks as a very small city in terms of population size, but in terms of businesses, it's still one of the top dozen (give or take) cities in the nation when it comes to business activity. what that amounts to, in a very unscientific construal, is a city that looks (to a cable company) like a medium-small market and spends like a larger one.

of course, that's just my theory. maybe we've just been stuck with at&t so long that we're really eager to take advantage of our new cable company that actually has something real to offer (hehe).

dan
post #60 of 2376
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Originally posted by MrGonk


are you watching the non-hdtv channels through the same component input as the HDTV channels? if you are, i'd suggest hooking up the s-video connection or composite video connection because from what i've heard, the motorola dct-5100s have notoriously bad scalers. also, you could try splitting the video signal before it reaches the box, and plugging one of the cables into the tuner on your TV and the other into the box. that way it's not involved in regular analog cable channels.
dan


MrGonk,
I have my install on Tuesday and my game plan was to s-video the SD on a separate input from the HD. That is the way I have my Dish 6000 setup at this time and it works well. But your other idea involving a split before the 5100 is one I had not thought of. Do you believe that a RF input of analog channels would be superior to a s-video input from the 5100?

Bill
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