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post #10261 of 10633
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Originally Posted by Channel99 View Post

The Ch 56 OTA signal is down at 10 PM, however they are up on Comcast cable in Boston, which most likely has a direct feed.

I just checked on my FIOS feed again. The SD version of 56 (channel 12 on Burlington / Billerica FIOS) is working, but the HD version (channel 512) still isn't working and the OTA signal still isn't working. Are you getting the SD or HD signal on Comcast? It looks to me as though their HD signal is down.
post #10262 of 10633
On Comcast, both the SD (Ch 10) and HD (Ch 808) feeds are working, as is the TCN subchannel (Ch 291). OTA is still down.
post #10263 of 10633
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Originally Posted by Channel99 View Post

On Comcast, both the SD (Ch 10) and HD (Ch 808) feeds are working, as is the TCN subchannel (Ch 291). OTA is still down.

I wouldn't be surprised if Comcast doesn't have a direct fiber-optic feed the station. At the stations I worked at, the local cable companies all had direct fiber-optic feeds to us.
post #10264 of 10633
From WHDH-7NBC/CW56 Viewer Relations:

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WLVI is experiencing some disruptions in service due to technical issues. We apologize for the inconvenience and expect to have the signal restored shortly.
post #10265 of 10633
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Originally Posted by BillBibeau View Post

I wouldn't be surprised if Comcast doesn't have a direct fiber-optic feed the station. At the stations I worked at, the local cable companies all had direct fiber-optic feeds to us.

They do have one.
post #10266 of 10633
It looks like starting April 17, WGBH World will move from channel 44.2 to channel 2.2. I saw the message on 2.2, which used to be the SD feed of the regular WGBH (2.1).
post #10267 of 10633
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Originally Posted by ssetta View Post

WGBH World will move from channel 44.2 to channel 2.2.

That is good news. WGBH is much stronger here in Southern NH then WGBX. Once the leaves come out we pretty much lose WGBX for the summer.
post #10268 of 10633
Is WBZ off the air?
post #10269 of 10633
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Originally Posted by rick_evans033050 View Post

Is WBZ off the air?

I'm getting nothing for them OTA. On FIOS, I can get their SD feed, but the HD feed is out. Just like WLVI was this past Wednesday evening.
post #10270 of 10633
Is there a problem with channel 44?

I'm seeing the various 44 channels drop on my OTA TV.

Signal seems very weak.
post #10271 of 10633
I see no RF for WBZ (RF 30), WSBK (RF 39), and WGBX (RF 43)

All three are on the Needham tower but so do other Boston stations that are sill on the air.

Nothing on the station's web sites that I noticed.
post #10272 of 10633
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Originally Posted by RAV in Metrowest View Post

Is there a problem with channel 44?

I'm seeing the various 44 channels drop on my OTA TV.

Signal seems very weak.

I can't get any signals from 44 either!
post #10273 of 10633
Hi
I get nothing from wbz ,wcbv(5) and 44.1-4
It was right as bubba was hugging his mom it went out
I get 7,2 ,25 still
post #10274 of 10633
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Originally Posted by Tschmidt View Post

I see no RF for WBZ (RF 30), WSBK (RF 39), and WGBX (RF 43)

All three are on the Needham tower but so do other Boston stations that are sill on the air.

Nothing on the station's web sites that I noticed.

I have the same situation here in Weston. Kind of annoying that with all their websites, apps, twitter etc they can't put up a notice they're OTA.

BZ came back on at about 2116 for about 4 min, been off since.
post #10275 of 10633
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Originally Posted by Larry3570 View Post

Kind of annoying that with all their websites, apps, twitter etc they can't put up a notice they're OTA.

Agreed...
post #10276 of 10633
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Originally Posted by Larry3570 View Post

I have the same situation here in Weston. Kind of annoying that with all their websites, apps, twitter etc they can't put up a notice they're OTA.

BZ came back on at about 2116 for about 4 min, been off since.

I sent an email query to WBZ TV tech/broadcast. WCVB doesn't even have such contact information. What a joke.
post #10277 of 10633
WBZ, WSBK, and WGBX are located on the CBS tower, but so are WCVB and WGBH, which are both on. It could be some tower or other work that required a very long period to complete. WYDN has had a construction permit for some time, to move there from the FM 128 tower, it could possibly be that.

A couple of posts elsewhere indicate that WCVB's signal is weak in fringe areas tonight, so they are likely not at full power.
post #10278 of 10633
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Originally Posted by rick_evans033050 View Post

Is WBZ off the air?

I noticed last night prior to the 11:00pm news that WBZ was off the air as I don't have cable, but do have DishNetwork. I use an antenna for locals, but even Dish didn't have them on either.

This morning it is still off the air. I'm surprised because each TV station I worked at had backup transmitters (usually lower power) and each but one had backup antennas too. I remember more than once having my phone ring in the middle of the night to come in as they were off the air and usually the master control operator in the middle of the night didn't know how to switch over. The last station I was at, I lived only 1/2 mile from the transmitter, so I'd go there and manually switch over myself unless it was a quick fix I could do myself. Often it was just a system reboot to get back on.

Here is hoping that things are back on soon!
post #10279 of 10633
Per web site:

http://boston.cbslocal.com/

WBZ-TV Statement On Technical Difficulties
April 9, 2012 7:39 AM

BOSTON (CBS) - Due to technical difficulties at our transmitter site in Needham, WBZ-TV and My-TV-38′s over the air signals are not working at this time.

This problem is affecting other stations as well, Paul Pabis, the Director of Broadcast Operations & Engineering, said in a statement Monday.

Crews have been working at the tower site since Sunday evening to fix the problem.

We apologize for the inconvenience. We hope to have service restored soon, Pabis said.

We are still available on cable and some satellite TV providers.
post #10280 of 10633
I too was watching The Master's ending when the station went off the air. Fooling with the antenna then discovering that all four WGBX stations and WSBK were out also.

I searched the stations web sites and found nothing and had to search this thread in order to get information.

I agree with the earlier post regarding poor use of Twitter, Web and radio to inform viewers of the situation.

God help us if a true emergency happens and they are responsible for info.

I rely on this thread as I will not subscribe to cable. Also, this year ESPN will only carry Wimbledon on it's cable networks.

NO Wimbledon OTA from this year forward.
post #10281 of 10633
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Originally Posted by dentaudio View Post

I too was watching The Master's ending when the station went off the air. Fooling with the antenna then discovering that all four WGBX stations and WSBK were out also.

I searched the stations web sites and found nothing and had to search this thread in order to get information.

I agree with the earlier post regarding poor use of Twitter, Web and radio to inform viewers of the situation.

God help us if a true emergency happens and they are responsible for info.

I rely on this thread as I will not subscribe to cable. Also, this year ESPN will only carry Wimbledon on it's cable networks.

NO Wimbledon OTA from this year forward.

Tennis does not have the reach it needs now. That is a sure way to kill the sport.
post #10282 of 10633
According to The Boston Business Journal, (http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/ne...-stations.html) WBZ-TV states their Over The Air viewers are 7% of the audience.

So I think they aren't in such a hurry to repair the tower.

PBS WGBX has not commented on the problem. I believe the OTA holdouts like myself will be forced to order cable.
post #10283 of 10633
The link below is to a more current report of the situation.

A transmission line failure is the most probable cause of the problem

The line in question is a rigid, copper-sheathed coaxial cable that runs up the 1,200-foot-tall tower in Needham which hosts the antenna. A second line is in place, but must be connected to the antenna by workers who make the long climb up the tower. Pabis said that on their first trip up the tower -- about a half-hour climb -- repair workers discovered that they didn't have the correct part to connect the auxiliary line to the antenna. They had to come all the way back down, get that piece, and bring it up, Pabis said.

Pabis said it's unlikely that the antenna itself is malfunctioning. But if it is, repairs will take much longer, because an antenna must be custom-made to transmit the signals from all four stations. That would take quite some time, he said.

While WBZ, WSBK, and WGBX are still off the air, WCVB has resumed broadcasting at lower power through an auxiliary antenna.

http://bostonglobe.com/business/tech...AnI/story.html
post #10284 of 10633
i agree with what has been said. Just because we don't want/can't fork over obscene high prices for cable, we're meaningless fleas without rights. Once again, money has a loud voice. And if there's an emergency? Well, let them fry.
post #10285 of 10633
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Originally Posted by dentaudio View Post

According to The Boston Business Journal, (http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/ne...-stations.html) WBZ-TV states their Over The Air viewers are 7% of the audience.

So I think they aren't in such a hurry to repair the tower.

Then you would assume incorrectly.

Besides the 7%'ers. (Sorry couldn't resist), some cable companies (Charter) (who use the feeds as primary) and all the others use the off air feeds for backup, etc. (I am willing to bet that 7% is also awfully low too...)

As a Broadcast Engineer in TV, I can tell you, if we go off the air, it's a big deal, which takes top priority, and if needed we will pay whatever it costs to get it back on the air.
To think they "aren't in a hurry to repair the tower" is simply not true.

And I think the number of over the air viewers are growing. With the amount of content availble on Netflix, Hulu, etc., and the plethora of OTA subs now a days, I am even considering axing cable, and saving $60 a month.
What about sports? I can listen to baseball on the radio, hockey online.
Football is still mainly on the networks (over the air again). NASCAR, I can stream it online.
post #10286 of 10633
Thanks for the info and updates.

No cable, and don't really miss the OTA that's gone out much. There's not much on.

Instead of cable, spend the money on an HTPC or a streaming device, and Amazon Prime and get the free video and shipping for $79 a year. Or just use the internet.
post #10287 of 10633
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Originally Posted by buzzy_ View Post

Thanks for the info and updates.

No cable, and don't really miss the OTA that's gone out much. There's not much on.

Instead of cable, spend the money on an HTPC or a streaming device, and Amazon Prime and get the free video and shipping for $79 a year. Or just use the internet.

Due to one of the local stations being out, I missed one of my favorite shows last week and was forced to stream it the next day. On an 82" display, the picture quality was HORRIBLE compared to cable TV / OTA, which is consistent with other streaming I've used. Watching the Bruins via a streaming feed versus watching them on cable is a huge difference. I'm sorry, but in most cases streaming just isn't an acceptable option at this time and Amazon obviously doesn't have every show available yet (and probably won't for the foreseeable future). Saving the money would be nice, but not at the expense of no longer seeing content I care about at an acceptable quality level. I didn't invest all the money in my system so I can save a few bucks a month and watch crappy low bitrate streaming content.
post #10288 of 10633
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Originally Posted by W1KNE View Post

Then you would assume incorrectly.

Besides the 7%'ers. (Sorry couldn't resist), some cable companies (Charter) (who use the feeds as primary) and all the others use the off air feeds for backup, etc. (I am willing to bet that 7% is also awfully low too...)

As a Broadcast Engineer in TV, I can tell you, if we go off the air, it's a big deal, which takes top priority, and if needed we will pay whatever it costs to get it back on the air.
To think they "aren't in a hurry to repair the tower" is simply not true.

And I think the number of over the air viewers are growing. With the amount of content availble on Netflix, Hulu, etc., and the plethora of OTA subs now a days, I am even considering axing cable, and saving $60 a month.
What about sports? I can listen to baseball on the radio, hockey online.
Football is still mainly on the networks (over the air again). NASCAR, I can stream it online.

I'm with you Mike! I remember the frantic situations whenever any of the stations I worked at went off the air. Also, I agree, 7% is an awfully small number for over the air viewers. I have satellite (Dish Network) but like watching directly over the air with my TV.

I'm surprised that they don't have an elevator to go up the tower. We had one at the last station I worked at and heck, us engineers even strapped on our safety harnesses and changed light bulbs on the tower with the exception of the one on top. We carried a Narda RF monitor to play things safe.

If what they are saying that it is a coax (I'm assuming a Nitrogen filled line), I can't believe that all the stations use one line. Heck we had 4 antennas on our tower along with 4 lines traveling up the stick (approx 1,200'), 2 for us (Main and stand-by antennas and the same for the FM station). I'd love to see the plant there one day.
post #10289 of 10633
Aside from the rather subjective issue - of the value of programming - brought to us by the(for now) shut down of 4.1/38.1/44.1.2.3.4 or OTA digital (Free) tv -there is a question about transmission of what was referred to in past as 'VBI' data which allows the TV Guide On Screen system - to function. After going digital - CBS affiliate, WBZ(4.1) in Boston area -was the source of this data for many of us in Southern New England. Many high def Digital Video Recorders will not function properly without this 'Rovi' supplied data.
So lets put aside the trivialities of the coming Supreme Court decision, the dithering about
nuclear contretemps - North Korea and Iran - and concentrate on the important things. Will I be able to record Judge Judy?

Barry
post #10290 of 10633
WBZ, WSBK, and WGBX are all back on the air now.
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