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post #10381 of 10536
I don't mind ME being on one more subchannel. I get WCVB at 93% vs 88% for WMFP and 64% for WMUR -- and, yeah, I noticed WMFP runs a lot of infomercials instead of the ME feed. It seems that ION shows up on even more channels, but I can rarely pull any of these in (RF 32 is closest and most powerful, AND directly in front of my 91XG, but I can rarely pull it in (danville, nh).

Ditto on PBS. I get RF 43 (WGBX) at 88% on my DTVPal, and WENH at 88%, but WGBH (RF 19) is only around 60%.

With OTA, getting content from multiple towers isn't wasted bandwidth so much as it is more opportunities for solid reception. I watch WMUR only for NH news/politics (and to avoid MA preemptions).
post #10382 of 10536
WGBH has posted a "Signal Update" on their website:

August 6, 2012

We expect the repaired antenna to be delivered back to the tower site on August 21. In preparation for hoisting and re-installing it to the top of the tower, numerous parts and lifting equipment will need to be positioned during the days leading up to the antenna's arrival. This work will sometimes require power reductions and complete interruptions in service. As the work begins, we'll do everything possible to keep our website updated with reports from the tower site. Weather permitting, it is our hope that the antenna will be re-installed and running normally by the end of August.

We're grateful for your continued patience and support. Viewers can request updates on the signal work here:

Lets hope everything is up and running for September's Ring Cycle smile.gif
post #10383 of 10536
Any one know why The Cool TV on 50.3 is no longer shown?
50.3 is now a simulcast of the main channel
post #10384 of 10536
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Originally Posted by jimmyv2000 View Post

Any one know why The Cool TV on 50.3 is no longer shown?
50.3 is now a simulcast of the main channel
It's actually been like that for a few weeks. I think there's a dispute betwen WBIN and the people who run Cool TV.
post #10385 of 10536
FYI from http://boston.cbslocal.com/2012/08/15/wbz-tv-mytv38-statement-on-reduced-over-the-air-signal/

BOSTON (CBS) – Several Boston television stations, including WBZ-TV and myTV38, are experiencing a reduced over the air signal.

Here is an update on the situation from Ro Dooley Webster, Director of Communications:

“Due to essential repair work on the TV tower in Needham, a number of Boston stations including WBZ-TV and WSBK-TV are transmitting at reduced power. Once the damaged antenna and associated equipment has been repaired, we will return to normal operations. We thank viewers very much for their patience while we work hard to resolve this problem.”
post #10386 of 10536
WGBH has posted two more updates as follows:

August 14, 2012

As of 12:30pm on Tuesday, August 14, WGBH 2 is operating at about 35% power on the standby antenna to help protect the tower crew from exposure to dangerous RF radiation while they rig the tower for the return and hoist of the repaired upper master antenna. Channel 2 should go back to full power on the standby antenna by about 6pm on Tuesday evening.

oops, a bit late on that one. And:

August 15, 2012

Work is again underway on the Needham transmission tower to prepare for the re-installation of the repaired upper master antenna.

Over the next two weeks, working at a height of over 1,000 feet, the crew will be rigging the tower and positioning lifting equipment, re-installing new lines and components, and hoisting and re-installing the 50 foot long, 16,000 pound refurbished upper antenna. Once the antenna is in place and operational, the crew will then remove the two temporary antennas and de-rig the tower.

The work schedule is dynamic and can change quickly because of many factors, including weather and how long each operation takes. To minimize the time on the tower and ensure they are prepared for the antenna’s arrival, the crew will take every opportunity to advance each stage of the work as quickly as possible. Because of this, when the crew has to reduce transmitting power and/or shutdown completely, there can be little to no notice.

Between August 15 and August 30, viewers should be aware that reception will have many periods of instability, particularly during the daytime hours when the crew is actively working on the tower. However, on Wednesday, August 15, WGBX 44 moved to an auxiliary antenna, which could affect reception for some viewers 24/7 until WGBX 44 moves back to the re-installed upper master antenna, currently planned for August 24-25.

WGBH 2 will mostly remain at its current power until the upper antenna is re-installed on August 21, though occasional power reductions during the day can be expected. The antenna hoist and re-installation work will necessitate all stations to reduce power on August 21. And by August 24, we expect WGBH 2 will move from its current position on the auxiliary antenna, back to its permanent home on the bottom master antenna.

We’re sincerely grateful for the patience and understanding of all of our viewers who have been affected by the antenna failure.

Ever hopeful!
post #10387 of 10536
Yesterday, the gin pole which was used previously to lower the damaged antenna, could be seen to have been again installed. It extends way above the lower master antenna, so probably the lower antenna cannot be used until the work is completed.
post #10388 of 10536
Big changes coming in October for PBS viewers in MA, NH

Due to loss of funding NHPTV is outsourcing much of its operations including membership services, back-office functions and master control operations to WGBH. NHPTV will continue to be independent and produce local and national programs.

Press release at http://www.nhptv.org/pressroom/release_detail.asp?hp_id=1364

For viewers:
  • NHPTV will no longer broadcast PBS national programming "off schedule".
  • WGBH-2 and NHPTV-Prime schedules will merge and largely be the same.
  • WGBX-44 and NHPTV-Explore schedules will merge and largely be the same.
  • NHPTV will pick up World and Create subchannels.
  • WGBH and NHPTV will exchange locally produced programs like Greater Boston, Windows to the Wild and Roadside Stories.
  • They will also engage in some sort of "member swap". More on that at http://connect.wgbh.org/NHPTVupdates
  • Comcast will drop the out-of-state stations.

Ouch!
post #10389 of 10536
From Mr.H
Quote:
WGBH has posted two more updates as follows:

August 14, 2012

As of 12:30pm on Tuesday, August 14, WGBH 2 is operating at about 35% power on the standby antenna to help protect the tower crew from exposure to dangerous RF radiation while they rig the tower for the return and hoist of the repaired upper master antenna. Channel 2 should go back to full power on the standby antenna by about 6pm on Tuesday evening.

oops, a bit late on that one. And:

August 15, 2012

Work is again underway on the Needham transmission tower to prepare for the re-installation of the repaired upper master antenna.

Over the next two weeks, working at a height of over 1,000 feet, the crew will be rigging the tower and positioning lifting equipment, re-installing new lines and components, and hoisting and re-installing the 50 foot long, 16,000 pound refurbished upper antenna. Once the antenna is in place and operational, the crew will then remove the two temporary antennas and de-rig the tower.

The work schedule is dynamic and can change quickly because of many factors, including weather and how long each operation takes. To minimize the time on the tower and ensure they are prepared for the antenna’s arrival, the crew will take every opportunity to advance each stage of the work as quickly as possible. Because of this, when the crew has to reduce transmitting power and/or shutdown completely, there can be little to no notice.

Between August 15 and August 30, viewers should be aware that reception will have many periods of instability, particularly during the daytime hours when the crew is actively working on the tower. However, on Wednesday, August 15, WGBX 44 moved to an auxiliary antenna, which could affect reception for some viewers 24/7 until WGBX 44 moves back to the re-installed upper master antenna, currently planned for August 24-25.

WGBH 2 will mostly remain at its current power until the upper antenna is re-installed on August 21, though occasional power reductions during the day can be expected. The antenna hoist and re-installation work will necessitate all stations to reduce power on August 21. And by August 24, we expect WGBH 2 will move from its current position on the auxiliary antenna, back to its permanent home on the bottom master antenna.

We’re sincerely grateful for the patience and understanding of all of our viewers who have been affected by the antenna failure.

Ever hopeful!

This afternoon, the antenna could be seen back at the top of the tower, leaning slightly off vertical, supported by the gin pole and rigging. Tonight at around 8 PM, it was vertical, but not surprisingly, the gin pole appeared to be still present.

They appear to be very close to returning all signals completely to normal.
post #10390 of 10536
WGBH just posted this "Signal Update" - the end is in sight!! smile.gif

Wednesday, August 22, 2012

The project to re-install the upper masterantenna has been progressing quickly. The repaired antenna was successfully re-installed atop the Needham transmission tower on Monday, August 20.

With the revised schedule, we now expect WGBH 2 to move back to its permanent home on the lower master antenna sometime on Wednesday, August 22. Work will continue on Wednesday and Thursday to install additional components, remove lifting equipment, and move WGBX 44, and commercial stations WBZ, WCVB, and WSBK, back to the repaired upper master antenna.

Then, during the early morning hours from about 1am to 5am on Friday, Aug. 24, there will be a full shutdown of all stations on the tower for final tuning and testing of the antenna and lines. Viewers who watch us over-the-air, as well as on some distant cable systems, will lose all television service from us during that overnight testing period.

It is our hope that during the day on Friday, August 24, normal broadcast transmissions will be fully and permanently restored.

We're grateful for your continued patience and support.

Yey!
post #10391 of 10536
That sounds terrific! I am able to get them as well as all the NH stations with an amplified indoor antenna (In my attic) fine even at the reduced power level. Most stations are only down a tad (Ex. WBZ used to read 100%....during this antenna situation 92%)

Here is keeping the fingers crossed!
post #10392 of 10536
Bill how high are you in Haverhill? I'm a little jealous of your reception. I'm just a little north in Danville, NH. My antenna is ~140' above sea level and I do not do as well. I'll be taking down some trees in the fall hoping to jack some of my numbers. I mostly struggle with the various ION broadcasters, WLVI, and WBIN.
post #10393 of 10536
Hmmmm, according to the deed I got when I bought the property, I'm approximately 115 feet above sea level. The house is surrounded by trees averaging 50 to 70 feet tall. I've got a ham radio tower that is 50 feet tall with ham antennas on it and I'm still not over the trees. I stuck the outdoor antenna(s) in the attic with a combiner and preamp feeding a master antenna system to get reception throughout the house. The house is a 2 story colonial. Works great!

FYI, the antenna system in the attic is a 4 bay bow-tie UHF antenna facing SW towards the Needham area, and an 8 element VHF LP facing NNW for channels 9 & 11. They got into a splitter to bring them to one line which feeds into the Channel Master preamp. It then goes to my basement where the signal goes into another distribution amp all over the house. Works great!
post #10394 of 10536
Final (hopefully) "Signal Update" from WGBH

Friday, August 24, 2012

The repairs to the upper master antenna are complete and normal broadcast transmissions have been fully restored for WGBH 2 and WGBX 44, as well as the other stations that share the Needham transmission tower.

Viewers who watch our broadcast services over-the-air and are currently not able to receive WGBH 2 or WGBX 44, please try rescanning your channels and/or making minor adjustments to the position of your antenna, which should allow you to reacquire our signal if you are within our normal broadcast coverage area.

We know what a difficult time it’s been for our over-air and cable viewers who have been without WGBH since the antenna failure on April 8, and we’re sincerely grateful for everyone’s patience and support. Thank you!
post #10395 of 10536
I had a DB8 and replaced it with a 91xg since most of my stations are in a straight line. I also have a y5-7-13 for wenh amd wmur. The trees around my house are red pines and oak and maple. A stand or oak and a handful of red pines obstruct my LOS to the south and red pines obstruct my LOS to the west. When these are wet and moving, I have reception issues. I think things will be better after I cut them down in the fall. If not, I may move the antenna outside as a last resort.
post #10396 of 10536
Hello there! I have a quick question about some towers which are fairly close to Boston:

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These were visible while on I-95/MA 128 North in the Weston/Waltham stretch, near US Route 20. Knowing the TV towers in Needham were behind me to the south, can somebody tell me what these are for? Thank you in advance! smile.gif
post #10397 of 10536
The location is referred to as Bear Hill.
post #10398 of 10536
Thanks for the input! I'm rarely on that portion of I-95/MA 128 and wasn't familiar with these towers. The picture was taken this past Saturday, if that matters. My friend was driving from the Turnpike, then north up I-95/MA 128 to the MA Route 2 exit, heading to the Alewife MBTA "T" station.
post #10399 of 10536
wbz and wgbx signal strength has dipped to 70-ish tonight while wgbh and wlvi are normal (90 for me). maybe there is still tuning to be done?
post #10400 of 10536
here's part of the answer, link below.
Radio towers on Bear Hill. Tower on the right was constructed by AT&T in 1992 for an experimental 6 GHz personal phone system. The tower itself is a vintage 1950s AT&T Long Lines tower disassembled at a site in Tennessee and moved here. It replaced a narrower, self-supporting AT&T Long Lines tower of a similar height built in the mid-1950s supporting a link to Chester, N.H. for the purposes of relaying network television programming. The other three towers were built in the 1980s for microwave, telephone and two-way radio communication purposes.
http://massroads.com/?word=microwave
post #10401 of 10536
WGBX and WSBK are our two weakest Boston stations.

They seem to be stronger with the repaired antenna, hopefully it is real and not just a few days of good atmospherics.



/tom
post #10402 of 10536
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Originally Posted by tveli View Post

here's part of the answer, link below.
Radio towers on Bear Hill. Tower on the right was constructed by AT&T in 1992 for an experimental 6 GHz personal phone system. The tower itself is a vintage 1950s AT&T Long Lines tower disassembled at a site in Tennessee and moved here. It replaced a narrower, self-supporting AT&T Long Lines tower of a similar height built in the mid-1950s supporting a link to Chester, N.H. for the purposes of relaying network television programming. The other three towers were built in the 1980s for microwave, telephone and two-way radio communication purposes.
http://massroads.com/?word=microwave

There is more to the story too. The big self supporting tower on the left hand side, has no tennants on it anymore and is going to come down for development at the top of the hill. The three towers on the right are actually on the south-east side of the hill and are currently owned by American Tower. As tveli stated, they are all cellular and two way these days.
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Originally Posted by wizwor View Post

wbz and wgbx signal strength has dipped to 70-ish tonight while wgbh and wlvi are normal (90 for me). maybe there is still tuning to be done?

WLVI is not on that tower and was not affected by the outage.
post #10403 of 10536
Quote:
Originally Posted by W1KNE View Post

The big self supporting tower on the left hand side, has no tenants on it anymore and is going to come down for development at the top of the hill..

Interesting. Do you happen to know what's going to be put in up there? My office is at the base of Bear Hill practically in that tower's shadow. I know there's a lot of construction activity on the north side of the hill right now but no clue what's going on there.

I used to work for Western Electric and part of my job was to visit AT&T Long Lines towers around the midwest and train the techs on installing solid state upgrades to their (then vacuum tube) microwave amplifiers. It was always fascinating work to me but the constant travel was a pain. You'd fly to Little Rock or St. Louis then drive three or four hours to the middle of nowhere and suddenly there'd be this monster tower with its horns pointing in sometimes four directions.
post #10404 of 10536
I would love to know what is special about WLVI. According to TVFool.com, WLVI is a little closer to me than WSBK and only one degree difference in orientation. I should expect it to come in a little stronger. WSBK is rock solid showing a signal strength in the mid seventies while I cannot pull in WLVI even intermittently.
post #10405 of 10536
WCVB activated 5.2 this week and has been running color bars. The ID displays as MeTV.
post #10406 of 10536
...and when they did, I lost 5-1 on all three DirecTV receivers and my TV. I had to rescan on the TV and re run antenna setup on the 3 DirecTV DVRs.

SMK
post #10407 of 10536
Huh! I'm surprised! With my DishNetwork HD receiver, apparently the receiver scanned automatically and added the channel. I used to have DirecTV, but found that the picture quality on Dish is better, plus you can use it as a regular receiver with an antenna besides the local channels on the satellites.

DirecTV uses too much signal compression. Besides, there are a lot more HD channels that I watch on Dish that DirecTV. didn't have in HD.
post #10408 of 10536
Whatever they did to WGBH, they must have done something right. The signal is much stronger then it was just a month ago. It's blasting solid right now. I'm also getting ME-TV on 5.2, but it shows color bars. I'm assuming they are moving ME-TV to 5.2 and pulling 62.1? If so, what will replace it? What's gonna happen to RTV? 62 is our strongest channel out here, it's always in the 90's.
post #10409 of 10536
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Originally Posted by BillBibeau View Post

Huh! I'm surprised! With my DishNetwork HD receiver, apparently the receiver scanned automatically and added the channel. I used to have DirecTV, but found that the picture quality on Dish is better, plus you can use it as a regular receiver with an antenna besides the local channels on the satellites.
DirecTV uses too much signal compression. Besides, there are a lot more HD channels that I watch on Dish that DirecTV. didn't have in HD.

I am talking about the signals I'm getting OTA. I don't get my locals from the satellite but use my DirecTV DVRs with an antenna. When WCVB added 5.2, 5.1 disappeared from all three DVRs. In the antenna setup section, 5.2 was listed but 5.1 was absent. I manually repeated antenna setup, and now 5.1 is back, but 5.2 has disappeared.

On the TV rescanning now shows both 5.1 and 5.2.

SMK
post #10410 of 10536
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Originally Posted by nicoge21 View Post

Whatever they did to WGBH, they must have done something right. The signal is much stronger then it was just a month ago. It's blasting solid right now. I'm also getting ME-TV on 5.2, but it shows color bars. I'm assuming they are moving ME-TV to 5.2 and pulling 62.1? If so, what will replace it? What's gonna happen to RTV? 62 is our strongest channel out here, it's always in the 90's.
I inquired with MeTV about partial programming on WMFP and they responded that it shouldn't be happening. Maybe they revoked the franchise?
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