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post #631 of 10628
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Originally posted by Benji


Sal, According to Titantv.com, WLVI is slated to go digital Jan. 1.

What is the digital station for WLVI? Jan 1 is around the corner.

Tim
post #632 of 10628
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Originally posted by rudolpht


What is the digital station for WLVI? Jan 1 is around the corner.

Tim

Tim, Again according to Titantv.com WLVI-DT is scheduled to use channel 41 Jan. 1, 2002.

Benji
post #633 of 10628
thanx for info guys !

Bob who are the lucky ones to get a tour of TV station facility ?
post #634 of 10628
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Originally posted by atmosfera
thanx for info guys !

Bob who are the lucky ones to get a tour of TV station facility ?

This goes way back into the archives of this thread. This is a tour of the Boston WBZ DTV transmitter facility in Needham. When we do it, anyone reading this thread will be invited.

Bob
post #635 of 10628
Serious lip sync issues on 002-2 (DST-3000), but still testing.

Tim
post #636 of 10628
Thanks Benji. Could have checked out TitanTV myself.....

Tim
post #637 of 10628
Did anyone else lose the digital signal last night sometme before the pops concert on WCVB? I watched part of the 5 or 6 pm news on WCVB digital and then went to tune back in for the pops concert and there was no strong signal. My 6000 wouldn't pick it up. It kept bouncing from 0 to high 40's low 50's for me and would not lock. bummer! I would have loved to see the concert in digital / HD if they broadcast it that way.
post #638 of 10628
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Originally posted by cab
Did anyone else lose the digital signal last night sometme before the pops concert on WCVB?

I watch mostly wbz but I did notice that wcvb changed from 20.1 to 5.1 when I switch to it last night. 5.1 came in good but I don't remember what time I looked at it. Maybe or maybe not this had something to do with your problem.
post #639 of 10628
Hi all, been lurking here for a couple of months trying to decide when to make the jump...

Count me as number 5001 (in a couple of weeks) (hint hint for wifey).

I wish to thank all of the posters on this board for all of the quality information!

Please keep up the passionate advocacy!
post #640 of 10628
What's PSIP?

Does this have to do with programming info getting into the APG? I have no progamming info for any of the local digital stations. Should there be? The APG picks up the info from DirecTV for the local channels.

Someday I need to decide to dump paying for those and the CATV as well! If could only get SAT B dialed in...
post #641 of 10628
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Originally posted by MikeD
I watch mostly wbz but I did notice that wcvb changed from 20.1 to 5.1 when I switch to it last night.

Sure enough. 6000 users update your favorites.

On the concert, the picture quality was pretty crappy (thought I was looking at analog.

PSIP is the standard to map channels to their analog equivalent and to give guide data. Currently some STBs map based on sat fed Advanced Program Guide data, some rely on PSIP. For example 20-1 was mapped to 5-1. PSIP also provides guide data, but no area stations are currently sending it (that I know of).

Tim
post #642 of 10628
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Originally posted by rudolpht
PSIP also provides guide data, but no area stations are currently sending it (that I know of).

I get a little guide info from 7.1. (program name, duration, remaining time).
post #643 of 10628
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Originally posted by cab
I would have loved to see the concert in digital / HD if they broadcast it that way.

Channel 20 was ok for me. (I guess tweaking for the low-power channel 31 has paid off!)
However I did notice that WGBH channel 19's testing was interrupted. Hmmm... Another Needham power problem?

--

Note the Pops was a repeat of last year (probably because of financial reasons.) It was good SD, but not HD. Oh well, maybe next year it'll be in HD.
post #644 of 10628
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Originally posted by cab
Did anyone else lose the digital signal last night sometme before the pops concert on WCVB? I watched part of the 5 or 6 pm news on WCVB digital and then went to tune back in for the pops concert and there was no strong signal. My 6000 wouldn't pick it up. It kept bouncing from 0 to high 40's low 50's for me and would not lock. bummer! I would have loved to see the concert in digital / HD if they broadcast it that way.

The Pops Concert was not produced in HD.
I watched the entire program from start to finish without problems!
post #645 of 10628
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Originally posted by MikeD
I get a little guide info from 7.1. (program name, duration, remaining time).

Mike,

What STB or HD card? I get the sat info on the APG and "Local Programming" on Dish. Interesting the station that can't do HD would be sending guide info.

RAP,

APG does a heck of a lot more than map the sat locals, it gives giude info for stations not carried by DirecTV.

Tim
post #646 of 10628
WCVB goes back to full time digital transmissions, WSBK goes digital this spring and WLVI early next year. You gotta love Boston...

I do have a question for Bob Hess, though. Bob, any insight you can share as to possible NFL HD games this season?
post #647 of 10628
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APG does a heck of a lot more than map the sat locals, it gives giude info for stations not carried by DirecTV.

Interesting. The APG on my DTV-1080 shows all the DirecTV and the SAT locals channels. All OTA channels (including the digital ones) report "regular programming.
post #648 of 10628
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Originally posted by RAP
Interesting. The APG on my DTV-1080 shows all the DirecTV and the SAT locals channels. All OTA channels (including the digital ones) report "regular programming.

RAP,

Then either you are not hitting the satellite, don't have locals setup by zip correctly, or the DTV-1080 has a programming guide but not APG.

See this & refrenced thread for more APG info
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&highlight=APG

Good luck,
Tim
post #649 of 10628
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Originally posted by rudolpht

What STB or HD card? I get the sat info on the APG and "Local Programming" on Dish. Interesting the station that can't do HD would be sending guide info.

Tim,

For OTA, I use the turner build into the Sony 34xbr2. I'm not sure all systems display the same thing. What is display on mine is the following:

Program Title (only WHDH has this)
Program rating (they all say "unrated")
Time of day
Channel number
Station call letters (ie WBZ-DT, they all have this)
Aspect ratio (ie, 4:3, 16:9)
SD or HD
Text area (most are blank but WHDH has the following: "No program information is available, Duration time XXX, Time remaining YYY")

Mike
post #650 of 10628
This snowy Sunday morning I can get WBZ & WHDH with no problems, however, WCVB keeps breaking up with a week single, I live about 20 miles from the antenna. Maybe they have snow on their antenna. I don't on mine.
post #651 of 10628
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Originally posted by MikeD
This snowy Sunday morning I can get WBZ & WHDH with no problems, however, WCVB keeps breaking up with a week single, I live about 20 miles from the antenna. Maybe they have snow on their antenna. I don't on mine.

WCVB-DT operates from the same antenna as WBZ-DT. Currently WCVB-DT operates at less than half the power of WBZ-DT. That will change in another few weeks when WCVB-DT will double output power.

I'm sure the weather is having some adverse effect on your WCVB-DT reception. That should not be an issue when the higher power operation begins.
post #652 of 10628
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Then either you are not hitting the satellite, don't have locals setup by zip correctly, or the DTV-1080 has a programming guide but not APG.

The satellite point is interesting. If this info is on SAT B (119) I'm definitely having trouble with that one but I would imagine the data is transmitted from the original SAT A (101) satellite as many people don't have the oval dish yet. I have very strong signal from SAT A.

I did the ZIP code set up. The wizard prompted for Manchester, NH and Boston channels. Maybe I have to run this again.

APG for sure...

I put a new yagi up yesterday. Great signals from all three Boston stations. Although WHDH went to hell last night and was not watchable. Snow had just started? This morning (still light snow) the WHDH signal is highly variable and not watchable due to drop outs. The WHDH signal has always been variable with some drop out and lip sync problems that's why I got the new yagi. Is this a WHDH issue or is this symptomatic trying to get WHDH from my area?
post #653 of 10628
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Originally posted by Marcel
Hi all, been lurking here for a couple of months trying to decide when to make the jump...
Count me as number 5001 (in a couple of weeks) (hint hint for wifey).
I wish to thank all of the posters on this board for all of the quality information!
Please keep up the passionate advocacy!

Welcome to HDTV!
post #654 of 10628
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Originally posted by brandish


WCVB-DT operates from the same antenna as WBZ-DT. Currently WCVB-DT operates at less than half the power of WBZ-DT. That will change in another few weeks when WCVB-DT will double output power.



hmmmm ..... if this is true, why is it I can't get a peep out of WBZ on my receiver and WCVB blasts in?? I'm using a TERK indoor antenna (rooftop is not an option!). I can receive WCVB 100% of the time, WHDH 80% and WBZ not at all (receiver comes up with "channel not available")

Plus I have a question for any TU-HDS20 users out there .... how can you get WGBH on channel 19-1 (or -2)? It didn't map when I did the zip code setup, and when I try to enter it manually, I get switched to NTSC 19 (which happens to be some sort of spanish channel OTA......) ... How can WGBH broadcast on OTA 19, when there is some other transmitter already broadcasting on that channel????

As far as the AGP goes, after I set up the channels using my zip code, all station info (including info for providence channels) is displayed as per usual ....

Now if I could only get Sat B (119 deg) to work .... sigh!!
post #655 of 10628
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Originally posted by MikeD
Program Title (only WHDH has this)

Sounds like WHDH is doing PSIP and Dish 6000 not picking it up. Thanks Mike, pretty interesting.

RAP,

Would try to run the local setup again. Should force an update. Every local you have checked should give sat based guide data. Note some channels will have 3 entries (Analog OTA, Sat, and Digital OTA). Picking the later should give you the guide data.

Tim
post #656 of 10628
jhoppy1

I have the TUHDS20 and have a question on what channel you are using to try and get WBZ. The mapping that the STB gives you is wrong for channel 4 for some reason. The channel to use is 30-1 NOT 4-1. I would imagine that this may get fixed someday so that it is 4-1 but until then, you have to manually enter 30-1.

Hope that is your problem.

Dan
post #657 of 10628
I haven't seen anything posted here about WFXT is actually broadcasting in 480p! It's not HD, but it's sure a lot better than the crap upconvert we had been seeing.

I watched parts of Dark Angel and 24 whenever they were on (Friday?)

Maybe they've been doing this for a bit and I've just missed it..?

In regards to WSBK + WVLI -- Are there other UPN/WB stations digital already? To they broadcast any HD or SD content, or is everything just digital upconverts?


A side note: On Saturday I put up my dish and am finally getting HDnet... I'm going into programming overload with the sudden addition of Fox, HDnet and HBO...
post #658 of 10628
Hello all you hdtv fanatics ! Been lurking and reading (not getting any work done - thank you) This is my first post. thought I would let you all know what is going on down here in Falmouth on the Cape. After speaking to a "specialist" I was told I would be wasting my $$$ trying to get digital ota signals from where I am. Well I am here to tell you that he was dead wrong !! I researched quite a bit and finally decided on a wineguard hd8200 antenna. The installer thought I was crazy too - the thing looked like a 747 going up there. I put it up about 13ft off my roof. Put a CM pre-amp and a cm rotor then tied the sucker down good preparing for the next noreaster. I am now watching 4.1 - 5.1- 7.1 - 23.1- 23.2 all the time plus 2.1 - 2.2 - and 2.3 on friday nights in both my home theatre (ecp4100) and in my liv rm (elite 510) and everthing is coming in real strong, with very few drop outs. If folks down here could see what I have there is no doubt they would be lining up at cash registers to get it. Add me to your very happy list of stb owners (5002 I think) Have a great holiday season everyone.

John
post #659 of 10628
are you getting wfxt in boston we are not getting it here in attleboro
gene
post #660 of 10628
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Originally posted by dan70cuda


I have the TUHDS20 ... The mapping that the STB gives you is wrong for channel 4 for some reason. The channel to use is 30-1 NOT 4-1 ... you have to manually enter 30-1.

Dan

Hi Dan

I've tried manually entering 30-1 and the STB resets the channnel to 4-1 .... I have gotten WBZ once (for about 30 seconds) but never again .... how do you manually enter 30-1 on your set to get it to stay??? Same for 'GBH, can't put in 19-1 and get it to stay ......

Jim
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