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post #1261 of 23446
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Originally posted by Valnar
Anybody know of a "petition" to have WKYC move their DTV signal to a UHF frequency?

-Robert

That'll happen when hell freezes over, LOL. WKYC has told us they are multicasting (and therefore transmitting an inferior HD image) "for good business reasons", so why would you think they'd change over a whole transmitter for us, the viewing public?

And don't bother writing to the FCC, I already did that (re multicasting). The dolts there are clueless about DTV and only capable of form-letter replies.
post #1262 of 23446
I guess I was fortunate that I moved to N Royalton about 4 years ago, just below Parma. We'll see if any of the cheapo Radio Shack antennas will work for me. If not, I'll be back here.

Thanks for everyone's replies.

Robert
post #1263 of 23446
I will soon be moving into a condo in Westlake. I have had DirecTV for some years but the new place limits my placing of a disc only on my patio. That is at ground level and there looks to be a tree problem. The complex is serviced (?) by Adelphia and I have been assured by them that HD is available there (just north of the Promenade Shopping Center). It looks like the complex has no exterior TV antenna. Not sure. I am thinking of going to Adelphia since they at least have two Cleveland HD channels. DirecTV has been frustrating for most of this year with so many thunderstorms breaking up or blocking out signals. It had never been a big problem in the past.

I have been trying to learn something about the pricing of Adelphia packages but with little luck. Does anyone know how they price the HD programing? The Adelphia website avoids any specifics. I would like to hear from from Adelphia customers about the HD packages, pricing, etc.

thanks
post #1264 of 23446
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Originally posted by ccchaney
the new place limits my placing of a disc only on my patio.

FWIW, there is a federal law (FCC) that allows you to install your antenna/dish anywhere on the property under your control regardless of what the HOA says...

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/facts/otard.html
post #1265 of 23446
I am generally familiar with the federal. Armond Budish wrote an aritcle on it in July in the Plain Dealer although I had read an overview elsewhere. In my case the patio (the units above have a balcony in this area) is the only place a dish could be placed. Even then, I cannot attach it to the wall since that is considered "common" property. Neither can the dish extend beyond the area of the patio. Exterior walls, grounds, walkways and roofs are considered common areas under the control of the landlord or condo association. This applies also to an external TV antenna. Since my patio is on the west side north of the southwest corner of the building and antenna would be useless.

In general, I think I can live with cable as long as I have reasonable HD content. The Adelphia spokesman assured me that it was, naming not only the condo address but unit number. At least, WKYC-HD and WEWS-HD will be available. I will miss 19-1 but its audio has been a continuous problem so I can live without the aggravation. I will certainly miss any other local HD signals as they appear, especially PBS. I can only hope that Adelphia may pick some of them up in the future.

thanks
post #1266 of 23446
With the addition of InHD and InHD2, I am VERY pleased with Adelphia's offerings. Sure, I'd like CBS, but that's to come someday ... I have HBO and HDNet and HDNetMovies as well. The amazing thing with my Sony XBR is that the SD Digital broadcasts are strikingly clear and ALMOST of HD quality.
post #1267 of 23446
FWIW, CBS from Adelphia has been mentioned as "real soon now" since before the Super Bowl. We've also been told that Fox should be available close to their HD live date, although I'll believe THAT when I see it too.
Finally, if you have WOW as an alternative cable company, you might want to check with them too, as they already have CBS and Fox. They don't have total Cleveland area coverage, plus your area has to be wired for them. http://www.wideopenwest.com
post #1268 of 23446
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Finally, if you have WOW as an alternative cable company, you might want to check with them too...

I agree. (OT post forthcoming)

FWIW, my dealing with Wide Open West has been superb. Their analog picture compared to Adelphia is great and I have not seen a better cable modem service. I was one of the beta testers for Roadrunner in Akron back in the mid 90's and had Roadrunner until 2000, before moving to North Royalton, where we have both Adelphia and WOW choices. Of all three, WOW has been my favorite. I don't know if Adelphia still limits their uploads to 128K, but having 300K upload with WOW makes a big difference, even if you don't need it.

-Robert
post #1269 of 23446
I just got my HD setup today and Im AMAZED at how the Olympics look in HD. So far so good with receiving 3.1 for me here in Brooklyn Hts. I upgraded my Directv equiptment to HD and they gave me the SIR-TS360 Samsung box as Im in an OTA area I also took them up on the Weingard OTA antenna. I receive 3, 5, 19, and 61 thru the antenna. BTW was is the golf in HD this weekend on CBS?!! Wasnt sure then again couldve been my fault for screwing with the settings too much...lol..
post #1270 of 23446
Yes the golf was supposed to be HD (although I wouldn't be able to verify it since I don't have CBS HD!)
post #1271 of 23446
The golf was not in HD this weekend. CBS changed the schedule on us at the last minute.
post #1272 of 23446
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Originally posted by intermod
WVIZ-HD is on!!!!

From the brookpark rd. studio. 26.1 only, I dont see any multicasting.
Looks like they are low power and of course the antenna is in a hole.

Dan

They have special FCC temporary authority to operate at 1kW ERP from the studio location on Brookpark Rd. Haven't been able to pick them up in Medina, but at least I have 46-1 in Akron for PBS HD now.
post #1273 of 23446
I've been trying to pull in WVIZ out here in South Russell, but without the slightest success. There isn't even a hint of a signal on channel 26. The screen stays blank, and the signal strength meter just sits at zero.

I'm getting the Akron station in, but with a LOT of dropouts. I tried adding a second antenna (a Silver Sensor) pointed at them in my attic, but it didn't help at all.

I guess I'll just have to wait until Adelphia adds one or both of them to the lineup.
post #1274 of 23446
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Originally posted by Jim Gilliland
I've been trying to pull in WVIZ out here in South Russell, but without the slightest success. There isn't even a hint of a signal on channel 26. The screen stays blank, and the signal strength meter just sits at zero.

I'm getting the Akron station in, but with a LOT of dropouts. I tried adding a second antenna (a Silver Sensor) pointed at them in my attic, but it didn't help at all.

I guess I'll just have to wait until Adelphia adds one or both of them to the lineup.

I can't get WVIZ 26 in Shaker either, nothing, nada.

I get Akron PBS 46 HD fine with the Silver Sensor. Haven't been too impressed with 46's HD content - when I do see it, it seems to have strange PQ problems like 480i scenes and 1080i scenes in the same film/program. I just shrug and figure maybe that's the way the Brits do it, or that it's older material, or it's 46's growing pains/and/or multicasting...

DiscoveryHD still rules.
post #1275 of 23446
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Originally posted by Valnar
My only HDTV tuner is the MyHD MDP-120 which is coming for my HTPC. I assume I need something that does QAM to receive HDTV over cable? If not, then I'll spend the $6 and get it through my cable, so long as I can use this PCI card. I have Wide Open West in North Royalton.

Robert,
I took the Hughes HTL-HD home over the weekend and hooked it up to WOW cable. Unfortunately the HTL-HD has no option for it, just analog cable channels 1-135. I thought it did QAM because it's listed in the specs at American Satellite and other retailers. When I asked on another thread about this, the theory goes that Hughes may have crippled QAM in the box, one would assume because it competes with their service.

So, I can't give you a definitive answer on whether a QAM enabled card will work with WOW...

-- Paul
post #1276 of 23446
Is anyone getting WKYC's radar channel 3-3? Looks like they turned it off, as 3-1 and 3-2 are coming in great for me (at least as far as WKYC is concerned) but 3-3 is nowhere to be found.

I hope that it's just a temporary thing for the olympics. My wife, the radar junkie, would be upset if it went away. That's been the only thing she sees any real benefit in for going digital.
post #1277 of 23446
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Originally posted by ZManCartFan
Is anyone getting WKYC's radar channel 3-3? Looks like they turned it off, as 3-1 and 3-2 are coming in great for me (at least as far as WKYC is concerned) but 3-3 is nowhere to be found.

I hope that it's just a temporary thing for the olympics. My wife, the radar junkie, would be upset if it went away. That's been the only thing she sees any real benefit in for going digital.

Same here, no 3-3. Although 3-1 has worked better this past week than ever. It sure seems like they're fiddling with things (bandwidth reshuffle) for the Olympics. I'm pleased 3-1 is working but I want doppler too.

Yesterday 8-1 was nonexistent. What happened there? It used to be one of the strongest signals.
post #1278 of 23446
Fox was on last night. I know they have been testing the HD demo loop.
post #1279 of 23446
Anyone have an update as to when WBNX will be transmitting in HDTV? What is the speculated reason it has taken so long? I have read old posts from 2002 which stated they would start transmitting in DTV "soon".
post #1280 of 23446
I think WBNX is battling with the FCC and Canada over their digital transmission. Not sure exactly what the problem is. But Canada Sucks. I've emailed them maybe 3 times and got one response well over a year ago. Who knows.
post #1281 of 23446
WBNX-DT ?

I think it's a "Line A" thing.

http://www.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/canline/linea.html
post #1282 of 23446
Line "A" thing, what they haven't been able to draw a line on a map since 1965?
post #1283 of 23446
Regarding 8-1 how strong has their signal been?? Since I got my set up on Saturday Ive not been able to receive it. (Plenty of signal breakups...etc) Same with 43-1 I dont mind not getting 43-1 as much tho and I can wait on FOX8 since I live in an O&O and Directv is rumored to be doing a CBS-HD like deal with FOX.
post #1284 of 23446
Hey DCSholtis,

Welcome to the forum, Channel 8-1 (31) has been solid for a long time.
Am I thinking ther right place, down there by the cemetary off broadview?

Dan
post #1285 of 23446
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Originally posted by intermod
Hey DCSholtis,

Welcome to the forum, Channel 8-1 (31) has been solid for a long time.
Am I thinking ther right place, down there by the cemetary off broadview?

Dan

WJW transmitter site is at State & Pleasant Valley Rd. in Parma. Same site location since the station went on the air as WXEL channel 9 in the late 40s.
post #1286 of 23446
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Originally posted by paule123
I can't get WVIZ 26 in Shaker either, nothing, nada.

I get Akron PBS 46 HD fine with the Silver Sensor. Haven't been too impressed with 46's HD content - when I do see it, it seems to have strange PQ problems like 480i scenes and 1080i scenes in the same film/program. I just shrug and figure maybe that's the way the Brits do it, or that it's older material, or it's 46's growing pains/and/or multicasting...

DiscoveryHD still rules.

I agree that 46's HD programming content is lacking. Macroblocking is likely due to the fact that they also have SD programming on 46-2. This deficiency, also seen with olympics HD programming on 3-1, makes a strong case for having no other subchannels when carrying HD.
post #1287 of 23446
Pretty hot tropo opening right now. 18:27 EDT 24-aug
Just about every channel above 15 or so has something on it.

Dan
post #1288 of 23446
Has anyone had any luck receiving Cleveland HD chanels from the Canton area.If so, what antenna are you using.

Thanks
post #1289 of 23446
pupper, I'm in SW Portage Co about 5 miles north of Hartville. I get most of the stations most of the time but 3-1 and 19-1 struggle especially at night. I have a Channel Master in my attic which is technically the "3rd" floor.
post #1290 of 23446
Pupper,

I have picked up 17-1 WDLI in digital mode . All in all I have to say that the analog signals have better range, at least with my ChannelMaster UHF/VHF
66" Yagi. It does not preform well on UHF or VHF. I think its a 3018 but CM changed thier numbers.. in any event it is on a 66" boom.

After about 18 months of having the antenna in my attic, all I can say is save yourself the risk of injury and just put it in the basement.

I always had the feeling that my set was "Deaf" with the antenna in the attic. Now I know my antenna is a POS. I also have concerns regarding that crap RG6 they sell at Home Depot so I have a nice spool of RG11 to try(maybe this weekend !)

I also want to get a Long Yagi just for UHF, something on 10 or 12' boom
stacked on top of the channelmaster.

There was a pretty hot tropo opening this afternoon, thats when you miss a big Yagi on the roof.

Good luck, keep us posted.

Dan
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