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mine is back to 3-1 as well.

Wow! Talk about getting an answer! Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to you going to full power. Like I said, it will be great to have an alternative to (the multicasting) Channel 3.

By the way, the analog signal comes in "ok" here in southern Medina. I get a lot of snow, but it's watchable most days.

Oh, and I'm not sure about air miles. But downtown Medina to downtown Youngstown is 70.2 miles in a car. To get the signal at about 35-40% is pretty good, especially considering the antenna is in the attic, and it's optimized for the Cleveland antennae northeast of here.

WEWS Audio has been horrible lately. Moving from center to left speaker, even on mono sources. I noticed it on the analog station though too.

Is anyone getting Univision on 61. Digital 34? I lost signal after getting it for a week or so. Not like I know whats going on anyways, it is in Spanish after all.

Ok, I fixed my OTA connection. When up on the roof I had forgotten my coax stripping tool and used diagonal pliers. It was not a neat cut/strip. This time I brought my cutting tool with me, redid the connector and low and behold I get digital 3,5,8,19 and 43 all with 75-80% signals on the meter. I also get 25 analog stations including the three Youngstown, Canton and what ever. Those signals are off the back/side of antenna so the pic(s) are not very good.
I live about 3-4miles east of Streetsboro and put a radio shack fringe yagi on the roof using the utility vent (stink pipe) clamp kit. About 20 feet off the ground is the antenna.

I'm watching ESPN HD right now...GB vs. MIN in 720p and it looks absolutely fabulous! I see some people here complaining how all of their programming looks like crap...well it only looks that way because MOST of their material is upconverted from 480i to 720p and then MOST people's TVs upconvert that to 1080i...I've got two HD boxes...one on a 720p native HD projector and on a 55" Mitsubishi HDTV (1080i native) and they both look great in HD...even the 1080i upconvert looks perfect.

I know one of the Comcast install tech, and he told me a few weeks ago that over at Comcast they are ready to deploy all their HD channels and I should expect to see it start appearing ( the 7 HD channels) starting the last two weeks of November with an offical launch on December 5th (they'll start advertising it on 12/5)

Does anyone know if Comcast Mentor is planning on carrying CBS or ABC in HD? They only make mention of FOX (why? 480p sucks guys...i know they are switching to 720p tho) NBC, ESPN, SHO, HBO, iNHD1 and iNHD2.

I spent all my home theatre budget on my 720p projector and have no extra money to buy a HD box to get ABC and CBS over-the-air :-( Come on Comcast....it can't be that hard to add two local channels that are already broadcasting HD...

Ultimind it all boils down to $$$ as to what comcast is going to be carrying on HD. And you can get a used Samsung OTA receiver for around 200 on ebay. You should get ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, UPN, TBN, and Univision all over the air. Maybe even some non Cleveland stations being in Mentor.

What is a FusionII HD card?

I did a lot of tree clearing this weekend and was able to get 5, 8 and 43 (along with my mainstays 3 and 19). But, all of a sudden I lost them again.

Twice this happened. Once Saturday afternoon, after being perfect from noon until about 3:00PM, and again on Sunday night at 7:50PM. All 3 went from perfect to unwatchable.

This is so frustrating!!!!!!

I inquired about the November 1 date I have been seeing on antennaweb.org and this is the latest from WVIZ Engineering:

"Unfortunately, WVIZ/PBS ideastreamSM will not begin digital broadcasting this year. Unexpected transmitting tower issues are holding up implementation of digital transmission. As soon as the tower issues are cleared up, we will begin DTV broadcasting. At this point we don't have an estimate of when that will be but we hope it will be sometime in the spring.
The November 1 date is the date of the first extension from the FCC. The FCC is currently processing our application for a second extension
We are also exploring the possibility of feeding a DTV signal directly to local cable companies by fiber. If this exploration should prove fruitful, we may be able to provide DTV programming to cable subscribers before we actually begin broadcasting."

-- Paul

Wide Open West's Cleveland Area System Manager updated me with the following:

"WOW! Internet and Cable is planning on launching HDTV on 11/17/03. The initial launch will only include the carriage of HDTV programming from CBS, ABC, NBC, and HBO. Early next year we plan on adding additional services in HDTV."

-- Paul

Here is an answer:

Distance between Medina, Ohio, United States and Youngstown, Ohio, United States, as the crow flies:
64 miles (103 km) (55 nautical miles)

Initial heading from Medina to Youngstown:
east (91.9 degrees)
Initial heading from Youngstown to Medina:
west (272.7 degrees)

See web site:
http://www.indo.com/distance/

I,m getting WEWS on 15-1?

I re-scanned channels every 20 degrees and I
didnt notice when it stopped re-mapping t 5-1 .

Anyone else ?

intermod

Wow. Thanks, Stan. This thread has been great, and it's pretty cool how we've got several different mini-threads all going on. I don't know about anybody else, but this is one of the first places I check every day online.

Shall we begin to organize another phone-a-thon to our local affiliates for 5.1 sound?

Looks like there are many new names in this thread since the last time I posted, so if we all call in, it may yield some results

If that would happen and COMCAST would carry the signal, I would subscribe to their Digital/HDTV offering. As it it, I have the 60-day trial and I will cancel after the trial, because they don't have much coming that I don't already get Over-the-Air and/or Dish satellite.

Gary -

The Fusion II HD card is a PCI HD receiver card for my home theater PC. It's more or less a capture board with an HD receiver. I also use the S-Video input on the card w/ my DirectTV receiver and DScaler(software) to up convert my 480i signals to 1080i. The result is a very good picture. You can find out more about DScaler here and DVICO Fusion II here

Hey Guys! WOW what a great thread. I have been a long time advocate of HDTV programming in Cleveland since I purchased my first receiver in 2000. Recently I fell out of the HD scene when my son was born but I find now that he has hit the one year mark my free time is increasing. It is good to see that someone finally got a "Official" thread together for all of us to combine our resources and let the local broadcasters know we exist. I tried similar efforts in the past when I used to work for Audio Craft here in Cleveland. I now work as a Systems Engineer and do not have the "connections" I once had but I am willing to use what I have left to keep out efforts moving forward. Here are some of the threads I have been involved in previously to give some history.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=133127

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=137198

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=138904

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hreadid=144699

Good to see you here Chuck!

Channel 5, WEWS is now stretching their non HD stuff to hit the screen. I dont really like it, it just makes me press another button on the remote to set the stb to pillarbox to get back to oar.

On another note:

I like Fred's idea, lets put some pressure down to get some 5.1. How much longer do we have to wait? No PBS? No WB? No HD UPN? No 5.1 for any network? Crappy Multicasting on Channel 3? There is a lot to complaign about.

Ok. How come the 4pm CBS game on 19 is not wide screen? Its supposed to be HD.

They probably didnt flip the switch to the network HD feed since the Browns game ran past 4pm. I dont know exactly, you could give the station a call.

I agree, the stretching looks bad. Why does WEWS want all their people to look fat? My stb gives me no option to fix it.

Big mistake. Everyone should call and write them. We want the picture to look good, not all stretched and mis-shaped.

I agree with you guys on the stretching on channel 15 - it looks bad. My guess is if you talked to someone in engineering they would just tell you they are doing what they were told to do. I'm not sure what dept. makes those decisions but the head engineer would probably know. Does anyone know his name and email address? In the mean time I'm been watching the Youngstown ABC affiliate on channel 36. No stretch there.

Steve

There are suddenly a lot of Adelphia threads, but this message is Cleveland-related, so I think it's best to put it here.

Not too long ago, the HD stations were added to the digital channel guide, and they've now been added to the channel listings on the Adelphia website (my zip code is 44120). When they first appeared on the digital box, there were channels for all locals, as well as HBO and Showtime. It looks like the initial offering will be much smaller, as only NBC, ABC, and Showtime remain. Still, it's a start, although the Adelphia office is currently saying it won't be available until January.

I checked my zip (44149) channel lineup this morning and none of the HD channels were listed. I just checked now and they have the same three showing. I still don't know if I can justify the price of Adelphia when I get all the locals without much of a problem with an indoor antenna. Plus, I have Directv and their HD package. I'd like to dump the rabbit ears but at what cost! Adelphia will have to get ESPN-HD and a few others for me to even consider adding cable again. I have Directv mainly for the NFL and don't see how I could live without the D*Tivo STB's. Plus the HD-Tivo will be out soon from D*.

Thanks for the info jtscherne.

well, this is odd, Fox 8-1 dissapeared from my menu tonight. Is this happening to anyone else? Or is it something to do with my receiver, which is a Zenith 520?

mchil wrote:

well, this is odd, Fox 8-1 dissapeared from my menu tonight. Is this happening to anyone else? Or is it something to do with my receiver, which is a Zenith 520?

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Nope, Your OK. I saw 8-1 was missing around 6:30, may have been some PSIP trouble over there, I just punched in 31 and it re-mapped to 8-1.

Dan

No HD in Cleveland for the CBS game of the week for the NFL. I called the newsdesk and complaigned and was given a BS answer about how it has to do with the commercials, and got Jim somebody's email. 2 weeks in a row, total bullcrap.

Tne CBS HD game of the week is Colts/Jets (4pm)and is not being carried in Cleveland as FOX as the double header.
It sure looks (and sounds good, 5.1) on the DirecTV feed though.

Hang on, I'm watching the Colts, Jets game OTA on CBS now and it is in HD.

When this happens, call and ask to speak with Master control. They are the people that fall asleep at the switch, and they are the ones that can fix the problem.