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post #1 of 19
Thread Starter 
For some reason I am having difficulity getting KPIX HDTV reception. I am able to get all the other stations, including the ones in San Jose but not KPIX. I live near the Cow Palace in SF and I have a roof top antenna pointed towards Sutro Tower.
I am using a cheap Terk amp with my Panasonic Tu20 STB. I am getting a Samsung 160 STB next week.

I have tried re-positioning the antenna and still no KPIX. Any help or suggestions would be apprciated.

Should I try another amp? I am hoping that the SAmsung has a better tuner.

Thanks,
Rich
post #2 of 19
When you're that close to the towers why are you using an AMP? Get rid of it and see if that helps. You might have to play with the placement - multi-path problems may contribute to some of your problems. Again, you should not need an AMP that close to the towers. Make sure you're using good RG6 coax and your connections are solid - no twist-on F-connectors, they are garbage. A word to the wise; stay away from anything with "Terk" on the name. They seem to have the worst products on the market with the highest prices. You can do better with RS. A better brand would be Channel Master or Winegard.
post #3 of 19
Rich,

I just realized that you live in the shadow of Mt. San Burno. I would have to say that you'll going to have a difficult time getting much of anything off of Mt. Sutro unless you go up, way up! Not sure how much an AMP is going to help your situation.
post #4 of 19
Which HD OTA channels should I expect to get in Fremont? I have a large Radio Shack VHF/UHF anntenna on a rotor
post #5 of 19
You should get everything without any problem. Fremont is clear to Mt. Sutro. Plus getting KNTV should be okay when rotated south. And getting KICU should be okay even pointing at Mt. Sutro from where you are, as KICU is just on the Fremont hilltop.

I am in North San Jose without a problem. Maybe KNTV since I pointed my small CM3017 [FIXED] with AMP directly to Mt. Sutro.
post #6 of 19
Thread Starter 
Ken,

San Bruhno Mt. is nearby but I am able to get all the other local channels off Sutro except for KPIX. W/O the amp, I am unable to get SJ channels so I do need an amp. I guess I'll to keep repositioning the antenna and maybe the new Samsung STB is more sensitive.

Rich
post #7 of 19
Rich,

I'm in S.E. San Jose (up in the hills) and get everything off of Mt. Sutro and Mission Peak with a combo RS UHF/VHF. That feeds 75' of RG6 which leads to an 8-way splitter w/ 7 loads. All this without any amp! If you have a good line of sight to Mt. Sutro I don't see why you need an amp when you're so close to Mt. Sutro.
post #8 of 19
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Originally posted by Ken Erickson
Rich,

I'm in S.E. San Jose (up in the hills) and get everything off of Mt. Sutro and Mission Peak with a combo RS UHF/VHF. That feeds 75' of RG6 which leads to an 8-way splitter w/ 7 loads. All this without any amp! If you have a good line of sight to Mt. Sutro I don't see why you need an amp when you're so close to Mt. Sutro.

I live in San Jose, not too far from Capitol Drive In, what type of antenna would I need and how much should do they cost. Where can I buy a good and antenna from, Home Depot etc.? Any advice would be most appreciated.
post #9 of 19
You can get a good UHF/VHF antenna from RS for $20-40. I picked up a slightly dented one for $20. If you want to get KNTV-DT on Loma Prieta, and you don't want to use a rotor, then you'll need a separate VHF antenna pointed at Loma Preita and join together using a Channel 12 joiner. All together I spent about $60.
post #10 of 19
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Which HD OTA channels should I expect to get in Fremont? I have a large Radio Shack VHF/UHF anntenna on a rotor
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You should get everything without any problem.
Thanks, but just what is "everything"?

Channel 2 (FOX)
Channel 5 (CBS)
Channel 7 (ABC)
Channel 9 (PBS)
Channel 11(NBC)

All these? More?

Thanks again for your help,

Jeff
post #11 of 19
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Originally posted by Ken Erickson
You can get a good UHF/VHF antenna from RS for $20-40. I picked up a slightly dented one for $20. If you want to get KNTV-DT on Loma Prieta, and you don't want to use a rotor, then you'll need a separate VHF antenna pointed at Loma Preita and join together using a Channel 12 joiner. All together I spent about $60.

Antennaweb.org say's that I should use a small multi-directional antenna. Where can I get one of them? Antenna web say's with multi-direction antenna's you don't need to point them in a specific direction.
post #12 of 19
You could try Schad's Electronics in San Jose. Never tried the multi-directional ant. Make sure whoever you buy from has a return policy so if you get something that doesn't work for you, you can return it and try something else.
post #13 of 19
rich wu said he was having problems receiving KPIX-DT. I'm only 3/4 of a mile from Sutro Tower and I have troubles with it, too. Believe it or not, the most reliable reception of KPIX for me is by pointing the antenna southwest. There's nothing out that way, but the channel 29 signal is solid.

Try swinging your antenna around, Rich. Have someone watch channel 29.1 (5.1) as you turn the antenna. You might get it with the antenna pointed in some obsure direction.

ride525 wrote:
> Thanks, but just what is "everything"?

Channel 2 (FOX)
Channel 5 (CBS)
Channel 7 (ABC)
Channel 9 (PBS)
Channel 11(NBC)

All these? More?

More... lots more. I'm in San Francisco and can receive 18 digital stations using a Channel Master 4228 and a rotor, plus a Winegard antenna cut especially for channel 12-KNTV. The 4228 is UHF only, so I had to get the special antenna for VHF.

For a list of stations that are on the air in the SF Bay Area, check out my web site: http://www.choisser.com/sfonair.html

Larry
post #14 of 19
Thread Starter 
Larry,

Thanks for the tip. So close but so far. I'll try rotating the antenna with the elements in the vertical direction. I think the antenna will be more sensitive in this direction. My antenna is pointed in the NW direction and I still get all the SJ stations and all the locals except for KPIX. I have a couple of weeks before football season starts.

Thanks,
rich
post #15 of 19
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For a list of stations that are on the air in the SF Bay Area, check out my web site: http://www.choisser.com/sfonair.html
Thanks, Larry

Jeff
post #16 of 19
Auditor:

I just installed a 8 bay Channel Master Antenna on my house. You can get one at Schads for about 60 and change. Instead of dealing with the self install, I got it professionally installed through Carrillo Antenna.

With UHF alone, I'm actually able to get most, if not all of the VHF channels too.
post #17 of 19
Quote:
Originally posted by sjyang
Auditor:

I just installed a 8 bay Channel Master Antenna on my house. You can get one at Schads for about 60 and change. Instead of dealing with the self install, I got it professionally installed through Carrillo Antenna.

With UHF alone, I'm actually able to get most, if not all of the VHF channels too.

Carrillo Antenna? Are they located in San Jose and how much did the install hit you up for?
post #18 of 19
Thread Starter 
Good news! I just received my Samsung TS160 and now I can get all the local HD channels, including the elusive KPIX station. I am now ready for the football season :)

Rich
post #19 of 19
Auditor55,

I'm not too far from you, basically near the Capitol automall. I use just a small channelmaster 3016 antenna. Got it at Fry's for $34.99. It works like a charm. Fry's has a decent assortment of Channelmaster antennas. Just don't go to the Campbell store, it's very small. The one on Brokaw has plenty.

DeanP66
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