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post #31 of 156
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Heh that's why the software has "experimental" all over it ;) But it'll improve from here ;)

Hmm actually I seem to get a little bit of instability between regular RTV originated streams too so it could be a DVA or RTV issue.
post #32 of 156
It's great to hear your experiences, BeefStu. Hoping to hear others'.

cow
post #33 of 156
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee Thompson
Heh that's why the software has "experimental" all over it ;) But it'll improve from here ;)

Hmm actually I seem to get a little bit of instability between regular RTV originated streams too so it could be a DVA or RTV issue.
But of course :) Just wanted to pass back as much info/feedback as possible.
post #34 of 156
These tools are [ear muffs] f**king [/ear muffs] awesome. From the time I downloaded the tools to having an edited file was about 10 minutes - and that's only because I'm a slow reader (yes, I actually read the readme and other text files). The evtdump is just about instant and the rtvedit only took 1 min 10 secs on my outdated (and completely hodge-podge) PIII 1.2. The edits weren't perfect, but damn close. Just a bit of fooling with the evtdump.txt could easily fix that.

Thanks a bunch Lee and friend(s)!!
post #35 of 156
Hey, it looks like my rebooting problem is somewhat common among DVArchive users and is therefore probably not caused by these awesome tools: Linkie-Poo
post #36 of 156
Unbelievable great!! great!!

I own you 2 beers :)


All i need now is dvarchive to compress my files say to divx or something and stream them back to the 5000!

We could even do timeshifting now!
post #37 of 156
As a long time 4k owner, this is the first time, I'm feeling envy for the 5k owners.
post #38 of 156
Wow!

Thanks Lee! I'm looking forward to giving these a try!
post #39 of 156
Have used your tools and I think they are great and a real time saver. Are you going to develop a tool to normalize Replaytv Mpeg2 files into regular Mpeg2 files that you can edit in home video editing software?
post #40 of 156
Congrats!!!


Now, if someone can finally figure out how to transfer the shows from DVArchive to the replay so that they could be sent via IVS to grandma, you will have realized FliipFlop's dream of allowing us to send videos of the kiddies to grandma, right? You'll be making ReplayRichard very happy.

What are the prospects of integrating this great stuff into DVArchive so that people have simple one stop shopping?

And what are the prospects of someone figuring out how to transfer DVArchive shows to the Replay (I haven't heard about that much lately...ever since that guy claimed he could do it if only we paid him a bunch of money.)
post #41 of 156
This really is one of the lynchpins in the Replay TV tool set!

I was kind of surprised this one hadn't been cracked when I got my first 5040 last December.

I was wondering, if I ever got a digital camcorder, how I was going to have to explain to my wife why I couldn't play the movies back on the Replay.

No more!!! Excellent!!!

Kudos to all those who worked on this!
post #42 of 156
Pretty new to these tools, is there a FAQ or web page that has step by step instructions on using these tools? How is everyone using them, and what are the system requirements to make best use of them?

Reading everyone's praises, I feel I am missing out on some excellent tools.

Thanks.
post #43 of 156
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by wbelk7777
Have used your tools and I think they are great and a real time saver. Are you going to develop a tool to normalize Replaytv Mpeg2 files into regular Mpeg2 files that you can edit in home video editing software?
hmm I'll talk to the programmer about that.

I don't really have any problems tho loading 5k MPEGs into Vegas Video so it hadn't really occurred to me.
post #44 of 156
Thread Starter 
Quote:
And what are the prospects of someone figuring out how to transfer DVArchive shows to the Replay (I haven't heard about that much lately...ever since that guy claimed he could do it if only we paid him a bunch of money.)
IVS back to a Replay? Not too good since it would have to talk to a server at Replay to get the IP address to connect to.

Since DVArchive does not have a Replay-registered MAC address (ISN) I suspect the receiving machine would not begin the transfer. Still, that's mostly speculation from what we know about the IVS protocol so if someone wants to really try it maybe we'd get lucky and it would just continue anyway (but I doubt it).
post #45 of 156
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Originally posted by JohninLA
Pretty new to these tools, is there a FAQ or web page that has step by step instructions on using these tools? How is everyone using them, and what are the system requirements to make best use of them?
Thanks.
There is a read me file and also a text file associated with each of the tools. The text files include instructions on how to use them. If you are familiar with command prompt inputs and switches, it should be pretty easy. If not, it still isn't too difficult. Just read the text files and open a command prompt (DOS window). But if someone wants to develop a front end GUI for this, that would be even better :D

As far as system requirements, you shouldn't need anything too powerful since there is no transcoding involved. Give it a try!
post #46 of 156
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee Thompson
IVS back to a Replay? Not too good since it would have to talk to a server at Replay to get the IP address to connect to....Since DVArchive does not have a Replay-registered MAC address (ISN) I suspect the receiving machine would not begin the transfer....
I don't understand.

When a replay initiates an IVS, it presumably checks with DNNA's replay server, gets the mac and ip address of the receiving replay and then initiates communication with the receiving replay directly (since I gather that IVS does not go through the DNNA server). Why isn't it in theory possible to figure out exactly what information gets transmitted to the receiving replay to get it ready to receive a show being transferred? And once we know that, why couldn't dvarchive mimic that information? And if it needs to think it is receiving from a bona fide registered replay, why couldn't we use the mac of another regitered replay (e.g. a second replay that is on the user's LAN)?
post #47 of 156
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Originally posted by asinshesq
I don't understand.

When a replay initiates an IVS, it presumably checks with DNNA's replay server, gets the mac and ip address of the receiving replay and then initiates communication with the receiving replay directly (since I gather that IVS does not go through the DNNA server). Why isn't it in theory possible to figure out exactly what information gets transmitted to the receiving replay to get it ready to receive a show being transferred? And once we know that, why couldn't dvarchive mimic that information? And if it needs to think it is receiving from a bona fide registered replay, why couldn't we use the mac of another regitered replay (e.g. a second replay that is on the user's LAN)?
I was thinking along the same lines. When using loopback functionality, IVS-ing the file to another Replay on the LAN results in the file never leaving the LAN. Why couldn't something similar be done between DVArchive and a Replay on the same LAN?
post #48 of 156
All I know is someone made me feel pretty stupid for asking if the original rtvtools software meant we were close to having software that can do pretty much what this new software does. That was what a month ago? Now I don't feel so stupid (at least until the next time I open my mouth).

Thanks a bunch Lee and the mystery programmer!

I'm looking forward to trying this with recordings from my ATI all-in-wonder. It has the possibility of making that card actually a useful conflict resolution solution for my Replay.
post #49 of 156
How cool would it be if you could put a tuner card (or cards) in your DVArchive machine and then use the "record on another ReplayTV" option to tell DVArchive to schedule a recording on its tuner card. When the recording is finished then you run the tools to convert it to a 5K compliant mpeg and presto. Then DVArchive would REALLY look like another replayTV (except it couldn't do CA) but it could have multiple tuners.

That would rock....I'll stop drooling now.
post #50 of 156
Quote:
Originally posted by tluxon
I was thinking along the same lines. When using loopback functionality, IVS-ing the file to another Replay on the LAN results in the file never leaving the LAN. Why couldn't something similar be done between DVArchive and a Replay on the same LAN?
I believe there are 2 lookups for an IVS transfer. The sender (in this case
DVA) looks up the receiver IP address using MAC address as primary key.
This can be bypassed since we know that information for the Local LAN
case.

The second lookup is the Receiver "Accepting the show" and requesting
the data from the Sender. This lookup is performed by the Receiver, in
this case RTV unit. Assuming we have little control over the code on the
RTV unit, this lookup is going to go through DNNA RDDNS lookup server.

If this lookup works, then DVA to Replay IVS should work. If it doesn't
for whatever reason, DVA RDDNS registration is rejected due to MAC
address out of range, DVA spoofed MAC address conflicts with existing
entry in RDDNS server, etc., then it won't.

This is my understanding of how IVS is working, but I may have remembered
incorrectly. I haven't looked at the packet traces in a long time.
post #51 of 156
Thread Starter 
sfhub, that's my understanding as well.
post #52 of 156
I got to look into some of those folder-based batch programs. We can set it up to move a mpg to folderB after it finishes downloading from the internet. Can set it up so any file in folderB is converted to a replaytv file and then moved to folderC, the DVarchive folder.

hmm, btw, when these new files are moved to the DVarchive folder does DVarchive ack!nowledge they are there (see them)?

cow
post #53 of 156
I think you have to import it in DVArchive. Can the more knowledgeable concur?
post #54 of 156
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by uncleblaine
I think you have to import it in DVArchive. Can the more knowledgeable concur?
Yes, this was discussed earlier in this thread.
post #55 of 156
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee Thompson
Yes, this was discussed earlier in this thread.
Dang, I thought I'd heard that somewhere before... :)
post #56 of 156
Could someone who is using rtvedit write up clear step by step instructions? I read everyting and tried using it for over an hour last night with no luck.

I want to convert 4K files to 5K, I'm running Windows 2000. To keep it simple I put rtvedit.exe and the sample.mpg and sample.ndx in a test folder together.

The instructions say we only need three lines:

FDead Like Me - Reaper Madness.mpg
TLocal_Guide\\4K Test - Sample.mpg
E

I tried running from command line, program flashes past does nothing.
tried running rtvedit then entering 1st line, program closes still nothing
(and I tried a dozen variations of the above)
I'm sure I'm missing something small???
(and what do the various flags do, I could find no explanation of 'F' or 'E')
Thanks in advance,
-John
post #57 of 156
Quote:
Originally posted by asinshesq
Now, if someone can finally figure out how to transfer the shows from DVArchive to the replay so that they could be sent via IVS to grandma,
We have to remember that even if somehow DVArchive can be made to IVS shows to the RTVs, we then still would be faced with the inherent limitations of shows in the "Received" category. They can't be moved to other categories, and (I think) they can't be sent via IVS to other RTVs.

In an ideal world we'd be able to move the shows by some means other than IVS so we can use the full functionality...
post #58 of 156
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Originally posted by moeronn
There is a read me file and also a text file associated with each of the tools. The text files include instructions on how to use them. If you are familiar with command prompt inputs and switches, it should be pretty easy. If not, it still isn't too difficult. Just read the text files and open a command prompt (DOS window). Give it a try!
Trying the rtvconvert tool. I opened the dos window, changed to the directory where the tool is, and my mpg. I typed:

rtvconvert <source.mpg> <dest.mpg> and changed the names to my mpg. Error message: File Creation Error.

I think I need RTV Tools 101....as someone else mentioned, some step by step instructions. Not ignorant of dos, not totally comfortable with it, but if anyone with some patience can give a quick course to those of us not quite as familiar with these tools, it would be appreciated.
post #59 of 156
Cool software. I'm converting about a dozen quilting shows my wife thought were long gone from our 4080 using rtvconvert. I had moved them all to DVArchive before switching over to two 5040s but had been unable to do anything with them until now. Thank you kindly Lee and Anon.
post #60 of 156
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Originally posted by JohninLA
if anyone with some patience can give a quick course to those of us not quite as familiar with these tools, it would be appreciated.
I haven't tried this tool, yet, but it seems it is pretty picky about what types of files it will convert. You need to make sure that the files you are converting are in the one of the following formats (from rtconvert.txt):
Code:
Resolution:   352x480, 480x480, 720x480
Framerate:    29.97fps
Bitrate:      2-8Mpbs CBR/VBR
Audio:        48KHz @ 112-320kbps, layer 2
GOP struct:   1/5/2, open GOP, 1 seq per GOP, 15 frames max
Now, I'm not sure exactly how to verify all of those settings, but you may have to convert your files to this format before you can convert them using this tool.

What exactly are you trying to convert?
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