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#1 ·
Well, in that other thread (that discussed the 3100 -> 3510 transition) a bunch of folks were saying we should do this, so here it is!


I haven't called yet to try to swap my box out. Reports from some about marginal PQ improvements are making me stay put for the moment...


Maybe I'll try to get one for my bedroom to replace the SD box in there...


TM
 
#2 ·
Nice move with the thread, TM. I've been considering adding a 3510HD, if I can get one, before returning my 3100HD and check if the image 'fog' really vanishes as a few have said. The faint haze doesn't really bother me since it's so subtle, but from earlier A-B comparisons with CBS OTA I know it's diminishing low-contrast hi-rez detail (faint-blue shirt pinstripes, for example). I'd add a SA8000 recorder/converter, too, if I didn't think TWC would announce the 8000HD version shortly, eliminating the need for both changes, and if there's a simple, practical way of operating two adjacent converters using the same remote codes.


Meanwhile, I see new channel 708 is working normally for USA Network's H/DTV tennis feeds. But it's totally blank for anything else here, other than a spectacular INHD demo loop last Friday. -- John
 
#3 ·
There are enough of us here to keep a thread alive.


John, I have to be honest, the Pioneer HD box is a lateral move at best. It's nice that the box can stretch the SD pictures, but the S-Video and Video feeds of SD pictures is not as good as the SA3100. As a result, I no longer use my TV's stretch mode, which I like better than the Pio HD stretch mode. The box is also a lot more jittery than the SA3100. It takes a little longer to change channels and the programming guide operates with a slight delay that I find annoying. The overall PQ is a bit nicer and the DVI connection is nice too. Overall, considering the effort I expended into getting the Pioneer, I wouldn't do it again. The SA worked with few operating flaws. The Pio is a better box, but it has operating flaws (i.e., jittery menu, stretch mode no good, HD/SD channel switching causes black screens..)


As for the SA8000 PVR. I did get it and it is awesome. Yes the HD version would be great too, but if you have a second TV, run out and get one. Actually they are running a promotion for free install, or first month free if you pick it up and do a self install, which requires no effort other than plugging it in to the wall and TV.


I'm underwhelmed by 708. The PQ was jumpy at times and didn't have the same wow factor as Monday Night Football. I missed the InHD loop. Can't wait.


Drew
 
#4 ·
Love this thread...We in NYC have more issues than just the new box. Here is what I am continually asking TWC-NYC(and of course getting no answer). 1. When will we get WPIX-DT back? We're missing Mets HD as well as regular WB prime time shows. 2. Will we EVER see ESPN-HD...Now that NFL has started you'ld think negotiations would heat up. 3. What ever happened to our getting Discovery-HD? So many other TWC systems nationwide have already added it. Why does the greatest city in the world always last?...4 will MSG-HD and FSNY-HD remain exclusive to Cablevision? and 5. When Bravo-HD and Cinemax-HD and Starz-HD comes alive in the next few months, will TWC-NYC add them immediately or will we once again watch the rest of the country addit first. I gave up on HDNet since we are getting the INHD stations. I hope everyone is putting pressure on TWC-NYC to make it the leader in HD in the nation as I would bet given the economic status of many NY'ers that there are as many or more HD ready TV's here than anywhere else in the US
 
#6 ·
Glad we got this going



I played with a friend's 8000 and it is VERY cool. I may get that for the bedroom to replace my SD box... But I agree with BelB64 in general - where/when are the other channels coming? I call the HD hotline every now and then to request new channels and groan at their absence.


BTW so far on 708 the tennis I've seen has looked decent, though 4:3, not HD. Not nearly as nice as the NBA all star stuff they used 708 for!


TM
 
#7 ·
Haven't heard anything on the SA HD Box.


As for the questions on channel line up, the two biggest questions listed above are where is WPIX-DT and Discovery HD. Adding chan 711 and then removing it was a cruel tease! Nobody has been able to ferret out an answer to this mystery. TWC has a national deal with Discovery-HD. Why it is not on the NYC network is mind-boggling.


As for MSG, FSNY, ESPN, Bravo, Cinemax, Starz and HD Net, I can see the political issues in getting them turned up. Even still, TWC NYC will need to remain competitive on the HD front with RCN on the doorstep. I already know 5 people that have switched to RCN for their HD service. I don't know the exact value of a subscriber these days, but it's somewhere between $2200 and $3500. The cost to re-acquire that sub is not cheap either.


Drew
 
#8 ·
Got my HD cable box couple days ago (I'm in bergen county, NJ). The box was 3100HD. So far, PBS looks incredible. So is InHD. I'm not a tennis fan, but I find myself watching US open. Jay Lenno also looked very good. Still, I could'nt bring my self to watch the show. The cable has over 300 channels and I'm reduced to flipping between 7 channels. I hope TWC will add more HD channels soon. By the way, does anyone know if CBS will broadcast their regular football games in HD?
 
#10 ·
I'm scheduled to get my HD STB swapped in on wednesday. From earlier posts in this thread, it sounds like there's a bunch of models floating around that TWCNYC uses for their HD boxes. Is there one in particular that I should request if that's even at all possible? I've been pretty happy with my SD box, and I'd be pretty aggravated if the HD box I receive on Wednesday doesn't work as smoothly with the channel guide/switching channels/OnDemand, etc. Any insight would be greatly appreciated...


Jason
 
#12 ·
RCN's line up includes ESPN-HD and HD-Net, HD-Net MOvies, Discovery HD, plus the other standard channels. For some reason they don't carry one of the major Networks, I think CBS? They also charge a premium, but whatever, my cable bill is 130+ with RoadRunner, two boxes, PVR, etc.. A small premium for the channels I want isn't a big deal so long as its reasonable.

http://www.rcn.com/hdtv/hd-channels.php


I'm sure TWC will get their act together soon, but they better hurry because HD customers, I'm sure of this, are among the most valuable customers they have. This should be a no brainer for them!



Jason, as for cable box requests, you can see from my earlier post that the two boxes used in Manhattan are the SA3100 and the Pio 3510. A lot of people, myself included, went through hoops to get their box upgraded to the Pio. Upon further analysis, I wouldn't complain so long as the box gets a clean HD picture. I did have to go through 2 SA3100 boxes before I got one that worked. I then had the switch to the Pio box. In my opinion, the channel guide worked much better on the SA model, but you did have to switch video inputs, composite to component if you wanted to watch HD or SD. Wasn't a big deal in retrospect. Just make sure that your PQ on HD channels is clean. Watch each channel for a solid minute while the guy is there to make sure there is no pixelation or signal drops.


Drew


PS: I'm watching the INHD Demo on Ch 708 right now and it's pretty sweet! Some cool under water shots of fish, coral.
 
#13 ·
Having used the 3510 for a week or so, I find that, to me, the main benefit of this box vs. the 3000 is the way it recovers from glitches. The 3000 would freeze, then black out for a couple of seconds before recovering.

The 3510 just mutes the sound for a second, then continues without blacking the picture out.

Pix quality seems about equal.
 
#14 ·
FYI: Here is an excerpt from a recent article on TWC's HD situation.


Time Warner Cable has carriage agreements with ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS, HBO, Showtime, Discovery Networks, In Demand, several of Fox Sports Net's regional sports networks and over 70 local broadcast stations for carriage of high definition signals. It provides HDTV set-top boxes to more than 120,000 customers.
 
#15 ·

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Originally posted by bigd86
Having used the 3510 for a week or so, I find that, to me, the main benefit of this box vs. the 3000 is the way it recovers from glitches. The 3000 would freeze, then black out for a couple of seconds before recovering.

The 3510 just mutes the sound for a second, then continues without blacking the picture out.

Pix quality seems about equal.

Yeah, the SA3100HD was totally bothersome last night for MNF in this respect. Right when a play would be going off, blam! - blackout and no sound for a few seconds. Annoying.


Like Time Warner.
 
#19 ·
I just had TWC replace the SA box and they brought out the Pioneer box. One question: because my TV has a DVI input should I use the DVI output? The tech from TWC said the component output is better but I don't think that's true.

Anyone with experience using DVI vs. component?

klick
 
#20 ·
Drew, thanks for all that info btw.


To all, re ch 708, twice now I've checked it when the guide bar specifically called out programming...one was Star 80 (yikes), the other the INHD Demo (I think that's what it was called). Both times though, nothing. No picture, no sound, no nothing. All my other HD channels work fine (using the 3100 box).


Any thoughts? Lingering blackout issues? Incorrect guide info? SHould I reset the box?


Thanks,

TM
 
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