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post #10591 of 26117
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Originally Posted by rgrossman View Post

That hurts. My grandparents were teenagers in the 1900s and 1910s. I was a teenager in the 60's.

oops! sorry rgross, I forgot that there are people over forty (I am almost here), fifty, and some 60's at AVS. I think there is a big band station that the the elder folk might realy enjoy. At least I know you already changed to DTV. We just need all NYers to make this change.
post #10592 of 26117
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Originally Posted by broadwayblue View Post

Talk about timing...any chance TWC adds Versus/Golf HD to the lineup by Wednesday??? One can dream, right? Seems like the perfect replacement for INHD2...and they did keep the slot open!

I don't think so, It would be nice, but they have to notify us a month in advance of changes. Thast is their rules so they can break them if they want to make us NYer's happy.

As for the replacement, ESPN would be a better fit, especially around this time of year. The baseball season is in full swing and ESPN2 will carry many games in HD. While Versus would give golf and fishing in HD. For some that might be a toss up, but for me the baseball would be a better draw.
post #10593 of 26117
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Originally Posted by nyboy42 View Post

What specific agreements are needed? Is for the permission to lay the infrastructure fiber optic CABLE? is that why they need to go TOWN 2 TOWN?

they need both, the franchise agreement like broadway said, then they have to work out an agreement like the cable companies have. The will be using public space for the cables and the towns and county will want to be compensated. The cable companies give free time to a city, county and/or the federal government by giving them access channels (like C-span for federal and the local public access channels for cities and towns. Either they do it this way or they figure out a way to lease/rent the space needed to run the cables. This is the same thing that happened when cable was an infant. The governments wanted something in return for using the telephone poles to run cable lines.
post #10594 of 26117
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Originally Posted by nuttyinnyc View Post

they need both, the franchise agreement like broadway said, then they have to work out an agreement like the cable companies have. The will be using public space for the cables and the towns and county will want to be compensated. The cable companies give free time to a city, county and/or the federal government by giving them access channels (like C-span for federal and the local public access channels for cities and towns. Either they do it this way or they figure out a way to lease/rent the space needed to run the cables. This is the same thing that happened when cable was an infant. The governments wanted something in return for using the telephone poles to run cable lines.


Sounds like it's gonna take a while.
post #10595 of 26117
Why don't you guys check the channel guide for the Rangers away games? It "should" be updated by now for at least the first 2 games and you can check if the away games on MSGHD has the little "HDTV" logo. If it does you all can make you plans for your playoff parties and have peace of mind that you aren't getting screwed. The quotes are needed because the guide sometimes doesn't get updated as fast as we need it to. But there have been many shows this season that were canceled and the channel guide made the updates right away. All games on MSG will be on MSGHD, the only question mark will be the on the 18th. It is a Ranger Home game and a Knicks away game(last game), I doubt if MSG would put a playoff game on a sister channel in favor for a game that will have no meaning other then another year full of underachieving.

As for the Yankee game, the HDTV logo was not there. Which was disappointing! Especially after that article we all read last week. Even the pre and post games didn't have the logo. But at least watching the game on YES HD looks much better then on YES SD. It wasn't HD but on my TV it looked good, none of the flaws that happen with a sport on SD were present. At least for me it wasn't. I was looking forward to see how the turf looks in HD and the general environment of the Homer Dome.
post #10596 of 26117
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Originally Posted by JBBO3314 View Post

Sounds like it's gonna take a while.

Yeah, it will. The only thing that might make this easy is if Verizon is claiming that they already pay for the space because they are a telephone company first and they are only upgrading their existing cables. We can hope! But the flaw in that is that Verizon adds the outside telephone line charges to our bills in the form or taxes and surcharges. I hope they make the cable aggreement or they might add the cost of the new lines to the FIOS bill which in turn you will be getting hit twice for one cable. That would really suck!
post #10597 of 26117
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Originally Posted by nuttyinnyc View Post

Why don't you guys check the channel guide for the Rangers away games? It "should" be updated by now for at least the first 2 games and you can check if the away games on MSGHD has the little "HDTV" logo. If it does you all can make you plans for your playoff parties and have peace of mind that you aren't getting screwed. The quotes are needed because the guide sometimes doesn't get updated as fast as we need it to. But there have been many shows this season that were canceled and the channel guide made the updates right away. All games on MSG will be on MSGHD, the only question mark will be the on the 18th. It is a Ranger Home game and a Knicks away game(last game), I doubt if MSG would put a playoff game on a sister channel in favor for a game that will have no meaning other then another year full of underachieving.

As for the Yankee game, the HDTV logo was not there. Which was disappointing! Especially after that article we all read last week. Even the pre and post games didn't have the logo. But at least watching the game on YES HD looks much better then on YES SD. It wasn't HD but on my TV it looked good, none of the flaws that happen with a sport on SD were present. At least for me it wasn't. I was looking forward to see how the turf looks in HD and the general environment of the Homer Dome.

nope just checked my guide it currently states that beyond the glory airs at 7PM thurs. followed by boxing.
post #10598 of 26117
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Originally Posted by JBBO3314 View Post

nope just checked my guide it currently states that beyond the glory airs at 7PM thurs. followed by boxing.

That sucks, maybe it is still too soon. If they ever do change it. At least I tried to help you guys. Let me see if there is any other options to ease your guys minds.
post #10599 of 26117
MSG's web site is showing that the game is on at 7PM:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/tv_schedule.jsp

Select 4/12 from the drop down.
post #10600 of 26117
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Originally Posted by BobbyCor View Post

MSG's web site is showing that the game is on at 7PM:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/tv_schedule.jsp

Select 4/12 from the drop down.

We know when the time the game is on and we know it will be shown on MSG and MSGHD the question that hasn't been answered is, Are these 2 away games braodcast in HD? Personally I think they will, MSG has the ability to show away games in HD, they did it for a few Knicks games this year. So why can't they show the Rangers away games. The Knicks are all but out of the playoff hunt, so the truck will be available.
post #10601 of 26117
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Originally Posted by mikeM1 View Post

Exactly as i predicted when i first read about the SUPPOSED televising of all road games in HD in the press release we saw in this ng, this is NOT HD on the YES road game tonite in Minnesota. It's the same ED =crap= they used LAST year!! BIG FREAKIN' DEAL!! Matter of fact, i just noticed they took the LYING "YES HD" logo off the screen.

Of course, it =would= be nice if someone threw a switch in the next 20 minutes to PUT the game in true HD...but i won't be holding my breath.

Michael Kay just mentioned that the game is available in Spanish by pressing the SAP button...but NOTHING...not A WORD, about the game being in HD.

You wait and see...i bet this is what we get with METS games on WWOR HD, too.

Ah, you noticed too, eh? I remember a small flurry of posts claiming that YES was going to have ALL Yankee games in HD, but I refrained from saying "no way." Then again, there was an announcement that YES was starting a full time HD channel on 4/1/07... and I suspect those that said ALL games were in HD because they saw that prediction, i.e. they read one thing and assumed something far different.
post #10602 of 26117
The away game on Saturday is on NBC, and I'm pretty sure I saw that was going to be in HD. Sorry, can't answer if Thursday's game will be in HD, but since its on MSG 1, there's a possibliity it will be.
post #10603 of 26117
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Originally Posted by 5w30 View Post

Good bet that Rangers fans will probably see all games in HD.
Of the first 4, MSG has the first away game, followed by NBC.
MSG has the two home games at MSG.
MSG will have game 5 at Atlanta, NBC game 6 at MSG. and MSG has game 7 in Atlanta.
Too bad most of TWC NYC doesn't have FSN NY-HD for the Devils and Icelanders.

Actually, I saw that Versus was going to carry a game 7 if needed. Would MSG carry it anyway (like I doubt they carry the 2 NBC games)?
post #10604 of 26117
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Originally Posted by Riverside_Guy View Post

... I remember a small flurry of posts claiming that YES was going to have ALL Yankee games in HD, ....and I suspect those that said ALL games were in HD because they saw that prediction, i.e. they read one thing and assumed something far different.

Well what are we supposed to think after reading the YES press releases?
http://www.yesnetwork.com/promos/YESHD/index.jsp
This season, every Yankees game on YES is in High Definition
post #10605 of 26117
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Originally Posted by BobbyCor View Post

MSG's web site is showing that the game is on at 7PM:

http://www.msgnetwork.com/tv_schedule.jsp

Select 4/12 from the drop down.

Uh, that schedule says nothing about whether it's on MSG HD or not.

According to the TWC program guide, MSG HD is showing "Boxing" that night. While some claim hockey IS boxing, we will NOT be seeing playoff away games in HD. AND if the series goes to 7, Versus has game seven, which could mean we don't see it even in SD!
post #10606 of 26117
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Originally Posted by LL3HD View Post

Well what are we supposed to think after reading the YES press releases?
http://www.yesnetwork.com/promos/YESHD/index.jsp
This season, every Yankees game on YES is in High Definition

Ah, I saw a lot of posts about this, but thought that it came from an item on tvpredictions.com about YES starting a full time HD channel which some assumed meant all Yankees games in HD. Now I see they DID specifically say this... untruth.
post #10607 of 26117
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Originally Posted by Riverside_Guy View Post

Actually, I saw that Versus was going to carry a game 7 if needed. Would MSG carry it anyway (like I doubt they carry the 2 NBC games)?

The only net that has exclusivity in the 1st 2 rounds of the NHL playoffs is NBC.
And they'll have 2 Rangers games (gm 2 in Atl and gm 6 in NYC)
Thank GOD we don't get to see Versus screw up the Rags' games ...
their production values rate low ... Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Sabres production values much higher ... and never miss the puck or a replay ... like Versus does.
post #10608 of 26117
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Originally Posted by Riverside_Guy View Post

Uh, that schedule says nothing about whether it's on MSG HD or not.

According to the TWC program guide, MSG HD is showing "Boxing" that night. While some claim hockey IS boxing, we will NOT be seeing playoff away games in HD. AND if the series goes to 7, Versus has game seven, which could mean we don't see it even in SD!

TWC program guide not a great one ... probably has not been updated ....
fyi next Wednesday will be a huge day .... the final Knicks game of the season @ Charlotte will be on MSG-2 ... Rangers hockey on MSG ... Islanders on FSN NY and Devils on FSN NY-2.
post #10609 of 26117
what channels are MSG2 and FSNY2 on TWC?
post #10610 of 26117
is there a breakdown on which channels the DTValue pack has over the "Digital Starter Pack"?
I'm looking at ways to lower my friggin timewarner bill and don't watch all those channels.
post #10611 of 26117
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Originally Posted by JBBO3314 View Post

what channels are MSG2 and FSNY2 on TWC?


Usually 51 and 60 (TVGuide Channel and CSPAN2)

But you wont see it in the program guide (its been posted on the www.msgnetwork.com website all season.... they'll hopefully update it when needed)
post #10612 of 26117
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Originally Posted by timewaster View Post

is there a breakdown on which channels the DTValue pack has over the "Digital Starter Pack"?
I'm looking at ways to lower my friggin timewarner bill and don't watch all those channels.

The easy difference is you lose all the on-demand channels, you need DTValue to access it. You also lose the stations between 100 and 160. That is a lot to lose for only $10-15. I don't know what the true price is. But there is a lot of cool free on-demand channels that I have found my new "quilty pleasure". All HDTV stays the same so you won't lose those. The best way to save money on the any cable bill is eliminate all premiums. That adds up if you have more then one.
Here is the list so you can decide if having just these channels would be worth it:
Sorry for the length guys.
Channel Channel Name



* Digital Starter Pak
1 NY1
2 WCBS
4 WNBC
5 FOX (WNYW)
6 Nickelodeon
7 WABC
8 TBS
9 MyNetworkTV (WWOR)
10 CNN
11 CW11 (WPIX)
12 Lifetime
13 Thirteen (WNET)
14 ABC Family
15 CNBC
16 A&E
17 The History Channel
18 The Discovery Channel
19 VH1
20 MTV
21 WLIW (21)
22 Cartoon Network
23 Court TV
24 E!
25 WNYE
26 SportsNet New York
27 MSG
28 ESPN
29 ESPN-2
30 YES Network
31 WPXN
32 Shop NBC
33 QVC
34 - 35 QPTV/BCAT
36 Spike TV
37 FX
38 Bravo
39 HSN
40 USA
41 Univision (WXTV)
42 BET
43 MSNBC
44 Sci Fi
45 Comedy Central
46 Fox News
47 Telemundo (WNJU)
48 Fox Sports New York
49 Disney Channel
50 Food Network
51 TV Guide Channel
52 TLC (The Learning Channel)
53 Galavision
54 AMC
55 WLNY
56 - 57 QPTV/BCAT
58 Headline News
60 C-SPAN 2
61 Oxygen
62 Lifetime Movie Network
63 WMBC
64 HGTV
65 National Geographic Channel
67 Azteca America
68 Telefutura (WFUT)
70 C-SPAN
71 NYC TV
72 The Weather Channel
73 - 74 NYC TV
75 CUNY NYC TV
76 Arabic TV (BK & Ozone Park only); Korean TV (Queens except Jamaica & Ozone Park)
77 ITV (3am-3pm)
91 WRNN
92 RISE
93 NYC TV
95 NY1 Noticias
97 Prayer Channel
99 Remote Control Setup
199 DTV Preview
309 Pay-Per-View Preview
503 ITV (3am-3pm, Basic)/ITV Gold (Premium)
507 The Arabic Channel
509 NGTV (3am-3pm, Basic)/NGTV Premium (Premium)
511 The Korean Channel
512 Media Korea
601-645 Music Choice

702 WCBS HDTV
704 WNBC HDTV
705 WNYW HD
706 Discovery HD Theater
707 WABC HDTV
708 YES HD (HD Specials)
709 WWOR HD
710 TNT in HD
711 WPIX-HD
712 MSG HD (HD Specials)
713 Thirteen HD
714 Kids Thirteen
729 WABC News Now
730 WABC TV Plus
731 NBC 4 Weather Plus
732 NBC 4.4
740 Universal HD
741 SportsNet NY HD
750 WNJN SDTV
801 NY1 Noticias
807 Azteca America
Channels missing 3TNT, 81 - 90, 100 - 160, 257, 1000 - 1028on demand, and a couple more.
Hope this helps with your decision

*PS, there is only a $10 savings if you go with the starter pack. IMO it is not worth the savings to lose as much as you do.
post #10613 of 26117
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Originally Posted by 5w30 View Post

The only net that has exclusivity in the 1st 2 rounds of the NHL playoffs is NBC.
And they'll have 2 Rangers games (gm 2 in Atl and gm 6 in NYC)
Thank GOD we don't get to see Versus screw up the Rags' games ...
their production values rate low ... Rangers, Devils, Islanders, Sabres production values much higher ... and never miss the puck or a replay ... like Versus does.

I read that versus has had some of the best HD coverage of hockey, was I misinformed?

For all the Ranger fans, GO DEVILS!!, Nah I am just playing with you guys.
With NBC broadcasting 2 gamse(homeand away) at least we know we have one away game that will be in HD. The others are still up in the air. Something to look for, if they make it to the finals all the games will be in HD.
post #10614 of 26117
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Originally Posted by timewaster View Post

I'm looking at ways to lower my friggin timewarner bill and don't watch all those channels.

Depending on what packages or channels you already have - premiums, road runner, discontinued old packages these will be bargaining chips for you.

I would try calling in the evening and chatting it up with a CSR. Tell them you're considering dropping TW. You're switching over to satellite or that FIOS is now in your neighborhood (regardless if they are or not). See if they can rework your bill with you over the phone. You might be surprised. I've done this and lowered my bill.
post #10615 of 26117
YES just showed a quick clip from last night's game in HD, so they must have had some technical issue that prevented the broadcast to be HD. Hope for better luck tonight.
post #10616 of 26117
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Originally Posted by QMAN71 View Post

YES just showed a quick clip from last night's game in HD, so they must have had some technical issue that prevented the broadcast to be HD. Hope for better luck tonight.

They're certainly "teasing us" with that hi def shot of the Metrodome during the pre-game. Well, waddya know, it looks like someone threw the right switch, and this game really WILL be in HD tonite! HALLELUJAH!
post #10617 of 26117
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Originally Posted by JBBO3314 View Post

nope just checked my guide it currently states that beyond the glory airs at 7PM thurs. followed by boxing.

True, but for what it's worth MSG (27) also shows beyond the glory and boxing, and we all know that's not happening with them airing the game.
post #10618 of 26117
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Originally Posted by mikeM1 View Post

HD tonite! HALLELUJAH!

YES it is!
post #10619 of 26117
Anyone watching Boston Legal right now on ABC? It isn't in HD :-(
post #10620 of 26117
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Originally Posted by Tresjolie9 View Post

Anyone watching Boston Legal right now on ABC? It isn't in HD :-(

I think ABC is having problems with their HD tonight.
Dancing With The Stars, on earlier, was not in HD either. This was reported elsewhere so it was not a local issue.
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