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post #12481 of 14222
1/24/10 at 12:56pm
This is likely a Win7 Media Center issue but I thought I'd ask here if there happened to be any TWC QAM users in Fairfield who use a tuner in their PC for the HD locals?

Why you ask?

Today I turn on the Colts-Jets game on 12.1 and my tuner is showing 12.2 on both 12.1 and 12.2. Went to the bedroom TV which is the same setup (TWC Fairfield QAM) and all is well. Only happening on computer (Hauppauge 2250 tuner).

Damn I hate rescanning!

FYI I watch OTA from Dayton stations on my Home Theater setup but the computer, in the same room, makes a dandy instant replay machine.


[edit] After the rescan was done it appears they shuffled the stations once again. I have the $12/month basic locals tier and I no longer get WGN for free. No biggie. My issue with 12.1 went away so I'm happy. Curious as to why the PC tuner didn't go along with this whereas my bedroom LG TV was fine?

[edit2] Did yet another rescan and the missing channels reappeared. Such is life in the QAM world. I think the cable companies do this purposely so people get annoyed or confused and sign up for a more expensive digital cable box. BASTARDS!
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post #12482 of 14222
1/24/10 at 3:13pm
the afc championship game looked very bitstarved.. lots of "pixelating" during any "action" sequence.. her xmitrman.. feed the beast.. give it the bandwidth it needs
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post #12483 of 14222
1/24/10 at 4:34pm
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the afc championship game looked very bitstarved.. lots of "pixelating" during any "action" sequence..

I agree that parts of it looked too pixel-y.
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post #12484 of 14222
1/24/10 at 5:42pm
I noticed no problems.
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post #12485 of 14222
1/25/10 at 10:23am
I believe WXIX is now inserting local id with the Fox Splicer, at least that is what I saw during the Vikings-Saints game last night. Will tune in to "24" tonight to see how it is handled.
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post #12486 of 14222
1/26/10 at 4:07pm
Cincinnati Bell recently wired our neighborhood for fiber and is offering what seems to be very aggressive pricing for their FIOPTIC bundle. We currently are with TWC and I'm just wondering if anyone has had any comparative experience they could relay regarding picture quality, channel lineup and equipment.

Thanks in advance...
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post #12487 of 14222
1/26/10 at 6:41pm
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I suggest this antenna: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...u=716079002110 and of course a mast and either a tri-pod or pipe mast mount, depending on the home. Yes it is a UHF antenna and yes CH 12 is VHF. However, as close as you are to the tower, combined with the frequency 12 is transmitting on, the suggested antenna will have no problem receiving it. I suggest that you NOT use a combo VHF/UHF antenna.

If I were you, I would stick with what was suggested and see how you like it before going all out on something like Dayton channels. Even the Cinti channels you'll get about 28 channels, which includes 6 religious, and about 9 PBS or so, 2 weather channels and 1 movie channel (THIS) and the 4 networks plus 64.

I just wanted you to know that I have purchased the above antenna and have started out with this mounted in my unfinished attic space (due to the wife) and I couldn't be happier!

I dropped off the TWC box yesterday & TWC was over today to shut her down at the pole...

Thanks again to Splicer and all of the other members here for their help.
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post #12488 of 14222
1/26/10 at 7:00pm
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Cincinnati Bell recently wired our neighborhood for fiber and is offering what seems to be very aggressive pricing for their FIOPTIC bundle. We currently are with TWC and I'm just wondering if anyone has had any comparative experience they could relay regarding picture quality, channel lineup and equipment.

Thanks in advance...

No answer but you make me wonder... I live in an area that's dense with 12 unit condos and such and about 2 blocks up the road for a couple months now there have been guys burying cable coming off spools that are huge. The diameter of the cable has got to be a good 6" at least. I'll see if I can remember to grab a pic and post it here...

I was thinking this might be the same thing, fiber for Cbell. The workmen's trucks have no company names or markings, typical for contractors.

Oh yea, they've been digging and working on the same block since the middle of December at least. I need a job like that!
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post #12489 of 14222
1/26/10 at 7:55pm
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Originally Posted by jkeane View Post

Cincinnati Bell recently wired our neighborhood for fiber and is offering what seems to be very aggressive pricing for their FIOPTIC bundle. We currently are with TWC and I'm just wondering if anyone has had any comparative experience they could relay regarding picture quality, channel lineup and equipment.

Thanks in advance...

junkyarddog has experience with them and said he is VERY pleased with Cinti Bell over TW. Personally, if I were you, and the deal is too good to pass up, take it and drop TW. Worse case scenario, you have a barganing chip if TW wants you back.
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post #12490 of 14222
1/26/10 at 8:01pm
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No answer but you make me wonder... I live in an area that's dense with 12 unit condos and such and about 2 blocks up the road for a couple months now there have been guys burying cable coming off spools that are huge. The diameter of the cable has got to be a good 6" at least. I'll see if I can remember to grab a pic and post it here...

I was thinking this might be the same thing, fiber for Cbell. The workmen's trucks have no company names or markings, typical for contractors.

Oh yea, they've been digging and working on the same block since the middle of December at least. I need a job like that!

You are likely seeing power or phone with 6" diameter cable. Fiber, even large count fiber, is not that large. It is probable it is Cinti Bell. Take what I am saying with a grain of salt because I am only going by your description. If you can indeed get photos and post them here I can tell you with almost 100% certainty what it is. And if you are serious and not being sarcastic about the job, talk to whoever is the field lead is. Good chance you can get on with the company though it won't be that job.
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post #12491 of 14222
1/26/10 at 8:02pm
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I just wanted you to know that I have purchased the above antenna and have started out with this mounted in my unfinished attic space (due to the wife) and I couldn't be happier!

I dropped off the TWC box yesterday & TWC was over today to shut her down at the pole...

Thanks again to Splicer and all of the other members here for their help.

Thanks for the update. Glad to have been of some assistance and that everything is working out the way you wanted it to.
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post #12492 of 14222
1/27/10 at 8:10am
I was being sarcastic, seeing these guys take forever to basically, as it seems, stand around and look at each other.
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post #12493 of 14222
1/27/10 at 8:50am
Bubster,

In my Mason neighborhood the installation of the fiber optic cable took about two months. Cinci Bell used a couple of contractors and we were notified with a card in the mail about what was happening in the event there was any damage to our property or other issues. They seemed pretty efficient overall.
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post #12494 of 14222
1/27/10 at 10:29am
I have been receiving ch.22 better lately in Sharonville so i sent an email to see if they increased power. Wkef's reply:
"We are in the process of increasing 22.1's power. We have switched the signal to a new transmitter. We have this transmitter at low power at the origional power rating 138,000 watts. We are waiting for approval from Canadian FCC. We will increase the power output on this new transmitter to 515,000 watts. Any reception differences might be due to this new transmitter. Richard King WKEF/WRGT/MYTV Engineering"
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post #12495 of 14222
1/27/10 at 12:55pm
Yeah, me too (Sharonville) - a little stronger signal from them currently.
Looks like when all said and done they should be the 4th strongest signal from Dayton (along with WHIO, WDTN, & WPTD). I know WBDT will have more "power" but they are lower on the tower and somewhat directional away from the SE.
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post #12496 of 14222
1/27/10 at 5:46pm
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Originally Posted by jkeane View Post

Cincinnati Bell recently wired our neighborhood for fiber and is offering what seems to be very aggressive pricing for their FIOPTIC bundle. We currently are with TWC and I'm just wondering if anyone has had any comparative experience they could relay regarding picture quality, channel lineup and equipment.

Thanks in advance...

If you have the option and the pricing is good, I would switch in an instant. Had the analog cable with 30/30 Mbps internet. The internet was incredible, but I believe they are no longer giving symmetric internet service.

Recently, one of my friends switched from TW. Got HD-DVR and 20/5 Mbps internet. Was over on Sunday to watch the Vikings-Saints game. Looked about the same as TW and OTA, so no difference there. But on the other cable channels (ESPN, TBS, etc) there was much less artifacts and compression problems when compared to what I have on TW. The difference in the DVR is the interface. CinBell is using the older interface that TW had before Navigator. Haha, it works much better than Navigator(go figure), super quick on the navigation and channel change, but it doesn't look as clean. So if you want a pretty interface, its not that, but quick and easy, it is.

Other friends living Downtown and Lebanon also have the service and they would also recommend it. But, in my friend in Lebanon said the rates did go up after the introductory rates, but I am not sure by how much. There was an article a couple months back about CinBell expanding service, because they were getting over 50% share in the neighborhoods they moved into.

Again, if you can get the service, there is really no reason not to switch, better HD and internet, bye-bye TW!
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post #12497 of 14222
1/27/10 at 6:02pm
I'm very interested in this new FiOptic TV from CincyBell. However, I'm not sure if they will ever move into Delhi Township! It would be nice to know, because i'm getting very tired of the hassle that TW has put into our area (being the old Adelphia network, we never get the channels or features that other areas get). I love Roadrunner, but I can really feel the pinch from 5-10 p.m. What really erks me is the load times on Youtube.

So my second idea would be to switch to DirectTV, however I'm not sure if I have the best sky for the Dish (neighbors have it, but we are closer to tree tips). Do you have to have 100% perfection when it comes to HD channels on DTV?
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post #12498 of 14222
1/27/10 at 6:33pm
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So my second idea would be to switch to DirectTV, however I'm not sure if I have the best sky for the Dish (neighbors have it, but we are closer to tree tips). Do you have to have 100% perfection when it comes to HD channels on DTV?

When it comes to reception, you either get the digital signal or you don't. This applies across the board for cable, satellite, and over-the-air with an antenna. I believe what JunkyardDogg and others are talking about is the quality of the HD picture. In many cases, over-the-air broadcasts use more bandwidth (bits) than cable or satellite for the same HD channel. That's because cable and satellite try to fit as many channels as they can into their bandwidth. Broadcast TV doesn't have that strict of a limitation since its bandwidth is somewhat limited and can afford to spend most of it on an HD subchannel and perhaps a few SD subchannels.

In short, the HD channels on broadcast TV are usually of better quality than on cable or satellite. (However, your mileage may vary...)
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post #12499 of 14222
1/27/10 at 6:35pm
Are you asking about OTA?
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post #12500 of 14222
1/28/10 at 12:49pm
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Originally Posted by JunkyardDogg View Post

If you have the option and the pricing is good, I would switch in an instant. Had the analog cable with 30/30 Mbps internet. The internet was incredible, but I believe they are no longer giving symmetric internet service.

Recently, one of my friends switched from TW. Got HD-DVR and 20/5 Mbps internet. Was over on Sunday to watch the Vikings-Saints game. Looked about the same as TW and OTA, so no difference there. But on the other cable channels (ESPN, TBS, etc) there was much less artifacts and compression problems when compared to what I have on TW. The difference in the DVR is the interface. CinBell is using the older interface that TW had before Navigator. Haha, it works much better than Navigator(go figure), super quick on the navigation and channel change, but it doesn't look as clean. So if you want a pretty interface, its not that, but quick and easy, it is.

Other friends living Downtown and Lebanon also have the service and they would also recommend it. But, in my friend in Lebanon said the rates did go up after the introductory rates, but I am not sure by how much. There was an article a couple months back about CinBell expanding service, because they were getting over 50% share in the neighborhoods they moved into.

Again, if you can get the service, there is really no reason not to switch, better HD and internet, bye-bye TW!

Thanks so much for the feedback. I signed up and the install will be the Tuesday after Superbowl (I made them delay just in case there are problems). Even without the promotional discounts they are $60/mo cheaper than TWC and the internet is 3x faster. I'll make a full report after things are up and operating for a week or two.
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post #12501 of 14222
2/1/10 at 7:57am
I noticed tooday some of the commercial are now in HD on channel 9 when not in ABC network programing. During Ellen I saw a Olive garden HD commerical that was in 16x9 not in the 4:3 that they normally show the comercials in when not in network programing.

This is the first ocal station to use the HD commercials in HD when not in network programing from ABC.

During CSI Miami tonight they did a showing for the 11pm news in HD not 4:3 like they normally do on channel 12.
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post #12502 of 14222
2/1/10 at 9:21pm
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

You are likely seeing power or phone with 6" diameter cable. Fiber, even large count fiber, is not that large. It is probable it is Cinti Bell. Take what I am saying with a grain of salt because I am only going by your description. If you can indeed get photos and post them here I can tell you with almost 100% certainty what it is.

Got a pic today finally!
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post #12503 of 14222
2/1/10 at 10:46pm
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Got a pic today finally!

That's not cables. Those are conduits. The actual cables will go inside the conduits. Most likely fiber for Cinti Bell.
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post #12504 of 14222
2/1/10 at 11:09pm
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That's not cables. Those are conduits. The actual cables will go inside the conduits. Most likely fiber for Cinti Bell.

Ahhh! I assumed the cables were already in the black covering.
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post #12505 of 14222
2/2/10 at 4:29am
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Originally Posted by robmadden1 View Post

I noticed tooday some of the commercial are now in HD on channel 9 when not in ABC network programing. During Ellen I saw a Olive garden HD commerical that was in 16x9 not in the 4:3 that they normally show the comercials in when not in network programing.

This is the first ocal station to use the HD commercials in HD when not in network programing from ABC.

Is Ellen syndicated in HD and shown as such on WCPO? If so, the question would be if the commercial you saw was part of the syndication or if it "originated" at WCPO.

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During CSI Miami tonight they did a showing for the 11pm news in HD not 4:3 like they normally do on channel 12.

Was it a live teaser or recorded? WLWT has been doing their live previews in 16:9 since they moved their newcasts to that format. I had not seen anyone do pre-recorded HD previews yet so if that is what you saw from WCPO that would be the first I've heard.
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post #12506 of 14222
2/2/10 at 10:21am
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Ahhh! I assumed the cables were already in the black covering.

Naaa. Too costly. The fiber will get pulled thru after the conduit is in the ground. Safer and cheaper that way.
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post #12507 of 14222
2/2/10 at 4:30pm
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Naaa. Too costly. The fiber will get pulled thru after the conduit is in the ground. Safer and cheaper that way.

Today I saw spools of bright orange. Looked smaller than the black diameter.
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post #12508 of 14222
2/2/10 at 5:19pm
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Today I saw spools of bright orange. Looked smaller than the black diameter.

More conduit.
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post #12509 of 14222
2/5/10 at 3:50pm
WOTH LD Update:

Looks like Block Broadcasting has plans for a 5th digital channel. Right now they are showing color bars on 25.5 - the data stream says "Skyline" channel. Anyone know what's coming? Stay tuned.....
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post #12510 of 14222
2/5/10 at 4:06pm
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WOTH LD Update:

Looks like Block Broadcasting has plans for a 5th digital channel. Right now they are showing color bars on 25.5 - the data stream says "Skyline" channel. Anyone know what's coming? Stay tuned.....

Snow storm in progress preventing me from seeing 25.anything. Hopefully Mr. WOTH guy will see this give us an update.
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