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post #13951 of 14222
Splicer and Gerhard
Thanks for the tips. Not 100% positive the amp is in fact the culprit, but I'm speculating. The amp was packaged with the Radio Shack antenna, but is a completely separate piece. I have about 25' run of coax running from antenna to amplifier, then about 6 inches of coax running into set top box. There is no light or anything to tell me the amplifier is actually doing anything...

I'll play with it this weekend and report back. Thanks again for trying to help!
post #13952 of 14222
If this is one of those 'in-line' injector type amps, in all seriousness, lose it and get a real amp:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Boost.../dp/B000066E6Y
post #13953 of 14222
I would suggest checking your antenna aim and the balun/coax connections at the antenna. The recent storms might have misaligned the antenna or damaged a connection.
post #13954 of 14222
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

If this is one of those 'in-line' injector type amps, in all seriousness, lose it and get a real amp:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Boost.../dp/B000066E6Y

splicer, would this amp. work if i combined the signals from 2 outside antennas- dayton ant. pointing north and cincy ant. pointing south or do i need 2 separate amplifiers to minimize the signal noise. I am currently using older radio shack adjustable inline uhf/vhf amplifiers with fm traps.
post #13955 of 14222
Rat shack amps are hi-noise. This Motorola is low-noise. Tocombine the two antennas, you can do 1 of 2 things:
1. Get a 2way splitter and combine the antennas OR
2. Do what I do (not recommended) and put 1 balun on 1 antenna and run the RG6 to the second antenna balun. A 3rd balun on the 2nd antenna (1 antenna has 1 balun, the other antenna has 2 baluns) gets connected to the RG6 going to the TV. The amp I linked to goes inbetween the TV and the antenna.

I do setups going by the second option, mine included, with outstanding results.
post #13956 of 14222
Hello all-

I have just learned that Cincinnati Bell is rolling out Fioptics to my neighborhood. I have been a customer of DirecTv for a number of years and am considering this switch. However, I want to make sure that the Fioptics receivers can support my needs before I make the plunge.

I have a single HD DVR that provides output to two TVs on opposite sides of a wall. The primary TV is hooked up via HDMI and the secondary TV is hooked up via component video. I also have a second RF remote control that allows me to control the DVR from the secondary room. My questions are:

1) Will the Fioptics DVR/receiver output to both HDMI and Component concurrently? Or better yet, have 2 HDMI outputs??

2) Do the Fioptics DVR/receivers use RF or IR remotes? I really need RF to control the DVR from the secondary room.

Thanks in advance!
-Jason
post #13957 of 14222
I have no Fioptics experience but both of your concerns can be dealt with using readily available A/V accessories.

An HDMI splitter should feed both TV's off a single HDMI output. An RF remote extender uses IR-RF and RF-IR converters. It will allow signals from an IR remote in the other room to be converted into RF signals which are passed to an RF receiver in the primary room. The commands are converted back to IR signals which are then sent to the DVR .
post #13958 of 14222
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Originally Posted by gerhard911 View Post

I have no Fioptics experience but both of your concerns can be dealt with using readily available A/V accessories.

An HDMI splitter should feed both TV's off a single HDMI output. An RF remote extender uses IR-RF and RF-IR converters. It will allow signals from an IR remote in the other room to be converted into RF signals which are passed to an RF receiver in the primary room. The commands are converted back to IR signals which are then sent to the DVR .

Thanks. I knew those options existed and had even looked into the HDMI splitter before. I am trying to keep it simple and avoid extra expense if possible, but may have to do this.

I am a bit concerned that there appears to be such a small amount known about Fioptics technical capabilities and there appears to be no support forum specific to Fioptics. Guess I've been spoiled with dbstalk.com...
post #13959 of 14222
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Originally Posted by jleupen View Post

I have just learned that Cincinnati Bell is rolling out Fioptics to my neighborhood.

What part of town are you in? I am waiting for Fioptics in my part of Mason but CincyBell does not pre-announce where they are moving in.

// Scott A
post #13960 of 14222
Scott- i am in Anderson township.
post #13961 of 14222
From John Kiesewetter's blog: Fox may buy Channel 64.

With the current uncertainties surrounding the future of broadcast TV, this looks like a no-brainer.
post #13962 of 14222
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Originally Posted by jleupen View Post


I am a bit concerned that there appears to be such a small amount known about Fioptics technical capabilities and there appears to be no support forum specific to Fioptics. Guess I've been spoiled with dbstalk.com...

Yes, there isnt much good technical info out there about Fioptics. One problem is they use that name, but have 2 or 3 connection types, with diff equip for each. In my area (Maineville), they use copper on the poles (same as POTS?) and ZTE equipment (IPTV). Other areas use Motorola or Cisco equipment.

I don't have this service. I might be interested in the internet connection, but the IPTV service doesn't meet my current needs.
post #13963 of 14222
i have fioptics for internet. 20mb speed. After a few kinks its been pretty solid. Now I am getting the "we can save you $$ on tv" calls and flyers for fiopitcs tv. I called and might have them convinced to give me a 30 day trial of it. If thats the case, I will get the speed upped to 30.
post #13964 of 14222
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

i have fioptics for internet. 20mb speed. After a few kinks its been pretty solid. Now I am getting the "we can save you $$ on tv" calls and flyers for fiopitcs tv. I called and might have them convinced to give me a 30 day trial of it. If thats the case, I will get the speed upped to 30.

Yeah, the internet for me is a given. I have ZoomTown now so I think it is a no-brainer to get more speed without the additional cost. What are you getting for latency?

Let us know if you decide to get fioptics tv and what you think.
post #13965 of 14222
ping is generally 35-50ms with jitter around 3-5ms
post #13966 of 14222
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

ping is generally 35-50ms with jitter around 3-5ms

Ok, I was hoping for better than that. I am getting that with Zoomtown today.
post #13967 of 14222
Part of my neighborhood in Evendale just got FIOP. I need to check whether my end of the neighborhood has it yet. A neighbor who has it is getting 30M reliably (per his claim) and loves it so far. Had I seen these last few posts before I was at his house the other night, I would have checked out the box better....
post #13968 of 14222
I was searching for info on the equipment they are using for Fioptics and found this article. Has some interesting info. It may be a year or two old.

http://www.ospmag.com/issue/article/...nati-Bells-CTO
post #13969 of 14222
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

ping is generally 35-50ms with jitter around 3-5ms

Is that good or bad? I have 10mbs Insight Cable service for internet. Speedtest tells me it 10.08 mb/s and upload is .95 and ping is 12ms ??? Is that better than what you're stating?

It seems Fioptics has come to my street but they'll only sell me 10mb, nothing faster. I wonder why their limiting it to 10? And I wonder if my landline has already been moved from copper to fiber? Any way to check?
post #13970 of 14222
12ms is very good.. is that from speedtest.net? Anything under 35 is generally good for most people. Hardcore online gamers want something under 15 usually. The lower the ping the better. Ping or latency is the time it takes a packet to travel from you to wherever you are connecting. I wonder why they will only sell you 10 - could be they have determined anything above that wont work right. I would bet you can get higher, but they are unwilling to try based on the "data" they perceive from your fiber connection point.

Did they run new cable infront of your house? if not, fioptics rides on copper for the last mile. You should have a white box mounted near the phone connection point for the neighborhood - they bring fiber to there and then jump it over to the neighborhood connection - hence the last mile is copper. Technically its VDSL2 or something like that. In fact, if they will only sell you 10 - then its got to be copper as the last mile. For me it would depend on price.. bell was about $25 cheaper then TW - so I am with bell - for now
post #13971 of 14222
Yes, my insight readings are from Speedtest.net. The 10mb limit is interesting and remains a mystery. Adding to the mystery, or maybe a hint to it, is that cinbell is not selling their tv service to my area, instead they're bundling directv. So I'm concerned about if and when they might offer more bandwidth.

While we're not gamers at my house, we do web development, so that's the priority use. We work from home and I never saw them laying new cable, and our lines are buried with a tall junction box between me and next door, by the street. I never saw activity there. I'm wondering if Cinbell could save me some money with Internet and wonder if my static-ey landline quality could be improved.
post #13972 of 14222
Also, adding to the confusion of my decision, I just had a friend with 10mb Fioptics run the speedtest. His upload is almost 2mb/sec (compared to my 1) BUT his ping is 25 compared to my 11. Hmmm.
post #13973 of 14222
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Originally Posted by jim tressler View Post

i have fioptics for internet. 20mb speed. After a few kinks its been pretty solid. Now I am getting the "we can save you $$ on tv" calls and flyers for fiopitcs tv. I called and might have them convinced to give me a 30 day trial of it. If thats the case, I will get the speed upped to 30.

Can you tell me what the make and model of the modem is? I'd like to know if it allows inbound port forwarding, so I can connect to one of my machines using ssh or http from an outside machine.
post #13974 of 14222
ZTE - ZXDSL 931WIIV2.8.1b_Z40_US
post #13975 of 14222
For the few that still read this thread and are irritated by the dark theme I posted this over in the Dayton thread after spending a good half hour searching for the setting:
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post #13976 of 14222
Haven't noticed any "dark theme" but the board's general layout and overall slowness loading and maneuvering about is a major irritation.
post #13977 of 14222
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Originally Posted by Splicer010 View Post

If this is one of those 'in-line' injector type amps, in all seriousness, lose it and get a real amp:
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Boost.../dp/B000066E6Y
Splicer, i went on amazon.com today to order this amp. to boost hdtv signal ota but amazon is currently unavailable. any other suggestions especially a 4 port amp.
post #13978 of 14222
Motorola also makes 2 port and 4 port versions of their amp. And another very good low noise amp is Ce Labs 6001 and 6002. All of these on Amazon.
post #13979 of 14222
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Originally Posted by Balloonfanatic View Post

Splicer, i went on amazon.com today to order this amp. to boost hdtv signal ota but amazon is currently unavailable. any other suggestions especially a 4 port amp.

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Signal-Booster-4-Port-Amplifier/dp/B000WPGRKK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1339722047&sr=8-4&keywords=motorola+signal+booster
post #13980 of 14222
Well bad news -- Channel 19 has the fireworks again. But last year's coverage was so bad it can only get better.

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