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post #3091 of 14222
Sunday Night Football has the best HD picture I have seen on any channel.
post #3092 of 14222
Scott..

When it comes to 720p, there are a lot of variables. There may very well be differences from cable company to cable company. On my gear, ESPN-HD looks incredible via DirecTV. Last time I saw it on a similar TV to mine, it only looked so-so via Insight cable.

OTOH, for most of us, 720p programming is side-converted by the STB for our 1080i displays. The resulting picture can be different from brand to brand of STB (unless, of course, you have a native 720p display).

Long and short of it: there are so many variables when it comes to PQ that two people living next door to each other can have vastly different experiences viewing the same channel.
post #3093 of 14222
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Originally posted by jim tressler
last nights MSU / UK (Sorry UK fans you luck ran out!) was pretty good on wkrc - only noticed defocusing a few times.. all in all better than the previous round

Weasel - any plans to tinker with the bug any more?

jim

The bug should be done. It was intended for NCAA coverage only, but things may change. So for now it shouldn't be seen much except for the NCAA games.

Weasel

Unless someone can give me a good reason to move it.
post #3094 of 14222
Quote:


Originally posted by WebHopperWeasel
The bug should be done. It was intended for NCAA coverage only, but things may change. So for now it shouldn't be seen much except for the NCAA games.

Weasel

Unless someone can give me a good reason to move it.

Dang that seems like a lot of work for just the tourney. I think most of us thought it was a permanent addition hence the suggestion to make it WKRC-DT and it was such a nice LITTLE bug too.
post #3095 of 14222
my only comments on the bug are the same as before.. I would suggest moving it over (left) the width of the "2" in 12 and down the "thickness" of the bar that contains "Local" - finally change WRKCTV To WKRCDT

just my 2 cents

jim
post #3096 of 14222
Quote:


Originally posted by jim tressler
my only comments on the bug are the same as before.. I would suggest moving it over (left) the width of the "2" in 12 and down the "thickness" of the bar that contains "Local" - finally change WRKCTV To WKRCDT

just my 2 cents

jim

I would echo this as well, not sure about your setup Jim, but as far as I can tell about mine there is no option on my receiver(built in) for overscan so it is out there quite a bit.
post #3097 of 14222
Thread Starter 
cokebear,

It's not the receiver that has overscan, it's the display ... most CRT based displays have a software based service menu with geometry settings(among other things) which can be adjusted. You have to know what you are doing however or you can easily mess things up. For instance, in some cases a user entering the service menu (which usually requires some sort of special "code" input on the remote or front panel controls) will void the warranty. Test patterns should be used, as well as (usually) the service manual. Reducing overscan(when possible) is also one of the things ISF calibrators do.

Many of the newer display technologies(LCD for example) shouldn't have any overscan. It's hard to say how much overscan some 16x9 sets have(or need), but if it's more than 7% overscan it almost might as well be a 4x3 set IMO .... so Keeping all graphics "inside" of 7% overscan area with a 16x9 video signal really should be enough IMO, and I'm OK with everything "inside" of 5% overscan ....
post #3098 of 14222
I'm not able to get a lock on them without severe tilling and audio break up. My signal level hasn't changed so apparently its an issue with them. Is anyone else having problems with WSTR-DT tonight?
post #3099 of 14222
Thanks Jeff, for the explanation. And may I say that I have no intention of voiding my warranty nor does it seem like I have a need with my LCD projector.
post #3100 of 14222
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by microbob
I'm not able to get a lock on them without severe tilling and audio break up. My signal level hasn't changed so apparently its an issue with them. Is anyone else having problems with WSTR-DT tonight?

Yeah, same here. I've noticed occasional screen data loss/missing pixels/etc from them the past several days but the RF signal has been fine. Looks a lot like what you might get if they were having problems with a sat feed, but since it's not happening on the analog station and was happening during all programming I've noticed, my best guess would be a problem with the STL for the digital station.

Right now, and for the past hour or so(maybe longer) WSTR-DT PSIP is remapping to 64-1(my Zenith box seems to check+update the PSIP from the station everytime you tune to a station) but there is no decodable audio/video streams at all. Just a blank screen and a steady 95% on the signal quality meter ...
post #3101 of 14222
1.Does anyone have a ballpark idea of when Directv will offer the Cincinnati local HD channels? Currently, I believe these are only available in a few markets (LA and NY) but are supposed to be rolling out to all markets in between now and 2007. Does anyone have any insight or a timeline for this?

2. Or will another company launch this before Directv?

3. Where does Cincinnati rank market wise in the country?
post #3102 of 14222
1. Nope - some have speculated the top 30 markets by the end of 2006
2. Voom probably wont be around and neither Voom or Echostar have announced plans for new hd birds like dave has
3. #33 - see below
post #3103 of 14222
I appreciate it.
post #3104 of 14222
WSTR-DT is no go at my house, had to watch Seinfeld on analog last night!
post #3105 of 14222
WSTR-DT is back on here after being off all morning. I had to watch Blue Collar on fuzzy analog last night. They need to GIT R DONE and Fix whatever the problem is.
post #3106 of 14222
tbenson..

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/DMAs.html

Rank DMA TV Households % of U.S.
33 Cincinnati 883,230 0.806
post #3107 of 14222
everyone ok? its been quiet here the past few days..

NCAA looked good last night!! Nice job weasel - I think I only noticed 1 or 2 harris flexcoder issues. my comments on the hd bug still stand though..

jim
post #3108 of 14222
Ya, Championship game looked great! No DD still on CBS affiliate - OTA anyway - when's that gonna happen again?
Also, I noticed that Master's thru D* on Thurs & Fri will be on in HiDef on channel UHD! That's a first for the 1st 2 rounds, I think...it's usually on USA in Standard Def - can your cable do that?

PS: I know this is WAY OT but has anyone got rid of there home-phone line & replace it with either cell-phone only or VoIP? I've been thinking I could reduce my overhead & stopped getting 'ripped' CBell...is there a local forum dedicated to that?
post #3109 of 14222
Chris,

I went with Packet 8 voip--$19.95/mo. unlimited to U.S. and Canada. If you want further details, PM me.

Paul
post #3110 of 14222
Chrisdow..

In previous years, the first and second rounds were available in HD to CBS affiliates (WKRC-DT carried it), even though the coverage was branded USA. I would guess, since NBC has UHD, that won't happen, this year.

As for VoIP, I'm currently using Vonage as part of an endorsement deal on my show. PM me, as well, if there's anything I can tell you.

Doc
post #3111 of 14222
I was acutally a little disappointed with the championship game. It seemed that it had the most problems of any game since the elite 8.

1. There was some issue with the audio - couldnt really pinpoint, but it was dropping out for a split second every now and then and there was a lot of crackling in the background.

2. Out of all the games, they forget to swtich the HD feed back on after a commercial and we are stuck watching standard def for almost 3 minutes.

3. The picture quality however was impeccable throughout.

-Maybe OTA was fine, but there seemed to be a lot of glitches through TW

Tony
post #3112 of 14222
chris: you have pm regarding phone service.
post #3113 of 14222
I would have to give WKRC a B+ for March Madness this year. They had most games in HD, but not all, no DD5.1(Something that would have given them an A), and I noticed the Harris flexicoder problem with losing focus a lot. Oh well there is always next year!

Has anyone heard about WBQC-DT? Summer is around the corner, but I haven't even heard what channel they are planning on using. If WBQC switched to digital, I would watch it much more often, instead I will continue to watch the stations that are digital.

I am also looking into switching to a VOiP, but I have noticed that my DSL speed has gone from 2,600 kbps to 870 kbps now. I think my problem is coming from a new wire that was put in the ground this winter. How fast is RoadRunner these days? I have heard that their speed is reliable, then I have heard it is not!
post #3114 of 14222
Road Runner is 5 MB Downstream

This is for basic service
post #3115 of 14222
Quote:


Originally posted by JunkyardDogg
I am also looking into switching to a VOiP, but I have noticed that my DSL speed has gone from 2,600 kbps to 870 kbps now. I think my problem is coming from a new wire that was put in the ground this winter. How fast is RoadRunner these days? I have heard that their speed is reliable, then I have heard it is not!

You should give them a call about that, it may be nothing more than a missed setting in their routers but then again if it's SBC good luck getting in touch with an actual technician. My SBC is only 1500/384 but they are running an internet special 1 year for $19.99 a month.

As far as the tourney goes I have nothing to compare it to directly because I didn't watch any of the Bearcat games this year and my tv is new but there was a lot of things being out of focus for whatever reason. But hey any HD at all is just icing on the digital cake.
post #3116 of 14222
rr is 5mb down now?? nice.. unfortunatly I am stuck with Cincinnati Bell as adlephia in my area has still not upgraded to powerlink
post #3117 of 14222
Yeah, RR pretty much upgraded the entire country from 3mb to 5mb in January.
post #3118 of 14222
Rumor has it that Zoomtown is upping their basic DSL bandwidth to 5mbit downstream in the next month.
post #3119 of 14222
Hello everyone. I will be moving to Cinci here later this year due to a job promotion, and I have a question about the local OTA digital channels. I will probably be moving to the Beechmont area and I am curious how the OTA signal is in this area. I am not too familiar with the area, so please go easy. I have an indoor amplifed indoor vhf/uhf antenna and I am curious what freq, each of the stations are on. I have never been a VHF fan, especially the lower band, eg. Channel 4. FOX here in Lexington is horrible on VHF, and wondering how it is up there in Bearcat country. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks!
post #3120 of 14222
Thread Starter 
Quote:


Originally posted by JunkyardDogg
Has anyone heard about WBQC-DT? Summer is around the corner, but I haven't even heard what channel they are planning on using. If WBQC switched to digital, I would watch it much more often, instead I will continue to watch the stations that are digital.

I had heard they are planning on seeking a 2nd companion channel(during the transistion) for their digital station -- something the LP DTV rules issued last fall by FCC allows.

However, FCC has not yet opened the filing window for stations like WBQC-CA to seek a 2nd companion channel for digital. In the rules it says FCC will open the filing window when the channel election/repacking process for full service stations has "signficantly progressed" to the point where they will have a good idea what the post-transistion open channels in any given area will be.

Who knows what "significantly progressed" means -- after the first round+FCC's interference analysis of first round election choices is complete? After the 2nd or 3rd rounds? By the language about this in the LP DTV report and order, it doesn't seem like they are planning on waiting until the entire channel election/repacking process is over before opening the filing window to allow Class A/LP stations to seek a 2nd digital companion channel -- A open channel has to be available in the area of course for them to be able to get one and things are awfully crowded these days ....

The first round of channel elections has already taken place and the commission should currently be doing interference analysis concerning the full service stations 1st round channel election choices. I think I'd read any interference conflicts that arose were supposed to be addressed around Mid-april or so, with the 2nd round of elections starting in July. For the most part, once everything involving 1st round of elections is complete, we'll probably know where most of the stations in our area will end up,with a couple of exceptions such as what WDKY-DT 4 Lexington will do in later rounds. The entire process is supposed to be completely wrapped up by the end of 2006 ....

Most LP/Class A stations will probably end up doing a flash cut to digital on their analog channel which probably wouldn't make sense for WBQC at this time since they just built a new analog plant for 38, and also since they probably have a good number of analog only OTA viewers.

By the way, the callsign won't be WBQC-DT(That's the suffix for full service digital stations), it will be WBQC-LD (suffix is for Low Power Digital) during the transistion, and WBQC-CD (for Class A digital) after WBQC shuts their analog off and the digital station gets Class A status ....

FCC's Low Power DTV Report and Order(Issued Oct 2004, it became "law" in Jan 05) is available in its entirity here in PDF format:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-04-220A1.pdf

Here in Word Doc format:

http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_publi...C-04-220A1.doc
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