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post #4381 of 7075
Hi everyone. I recently moved into the Simsbury area and get SD locals and the Superstation package from Dish. Reception on all of the stations is fine, except WEDH, which looks snowy -- as if I'm watching through a mesh screen. Any reason why this one station would come in poorly when all the others come in fine?
post #4382 of 7075
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Originally Posted by tivotony View Post

Hi everyone. I recently moved into the Simsbury area and get SD locals and the Superstation package from Dish. Reception on all of the stations is fine, except WEDH, which looks snowy -- as if I'm watching through a mesh screen. Any reason why this one station would come in poorly when all the others come in fine?

WEDH is not broadcasting a digital signal yet.
post #4383 of 7075
That's probably it, although it seemed much better when I first subscribed and I have noticed that it has seemed to worsen lately.
post #4384 of 7075
Is there something WRONG with WTIC Fox 61? I live in Cheshire, CT and I am having a REALLY hard time getting a good signal, but according to antennaweb the signal source is like less than 1 mile away from WVIT 30, which gets EXCELLENT reception.. am I missing something here? Anything I can do to help my signal? Everything is doing ok with my indoor antenna except for this damn station.
post #4385 of 7075
WVIT-DT and WTIC-DT both transmit from Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington. They're on channels 35 and 31, respectively. I'm usually good with both of them here in the south end of New Britain. The one I always have problems with is WFSB-DT channel 33. That's due to Avon Moutain being in the same direction as New Britain's Walnut Hill (and park with the same name). I live at the bottom of that said hill.
post #4386 of 7075
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Originally Posted by KML0224 View Post

WVIT-DT and WTIC-DT both transmit from Rattlesnake Mountain in Farmington. They're on channels 35 and 31, respectively. I'm usually good with both of them here in the south end of New Britain. The one I always have problems with is WFSB-DT channel 33. That's due to Avon Moutain being in the same direction as New Britain's Walnut Hill (and park with the same name). I live at the bottom of that said hill.

35? 31? 33?? Am I missing something here?
post #4387 of 7075
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Originally Posted by davevandam View Post

35? 31? 33?? Am I missing something here?

Those are the digital channels numbers for WVIT, WTIC, and WFSB. BTW, I am in Cheshire also, but have no issues with any of the locals. PM me. Maybe I can help.
post #4388 of 7075
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Originally Posted by davevandam View Post

Is there something WRONG with WTIC Fox 61? I live in Cheshire, CT and I am having a REALLY hard time getting a good signal, but according to antennaweb the signal source is like less than 1 mile away from WVIT 30, which gets EXCELLENT reception.. am I missing something here? Anything I can do to help my signal? Everything is doing ok with my indoor antenna except for this damn station.

I'm in Killingworth and have lots of issues with WTIC. There is some problem with their transmission from time to time, sometimes for a minute or two, sometimes for days it seems. I can have a lock at 75% signal strength for an hour and then breakups and no signal. At times, I get a strong signal (75% +-) but a black screen, so the signal is strong but there is no picture being sent. This has gone on for a few years. Lost the giants and cowboys game a few times yesterday and the baseball game too. I wish they'd fix it or explain why it happens.

My understanding is that they are not at their permanent antenna height on Rattlesnake Mt due to some FCC issue, but my issues are not with signal strength; they are with them sending a constant signal.
post #4389 of 7075
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Originally Posted by raoul5788 View Post

Those are the digital channels numbers for WVIT, WTIC, and WFSB. BTW, I am in Cheshire also, but have no issues with any of the locals. PM me. Maybe I can help.

Are you using an indoor or outdoor antenna? I'm using my new Terk HDA antenna indoors.
post #4390 of 7075
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Originally Posted by davevandam View Post

Are you using an indoor or outdoor antenna? I'm using my new Terk HDA antenna indoors.

I have a Channel Master 4228 on the roof. Your antenna is probably the problem.
post #4391 of 7075
I live in Coventry, CT, pretty much in the woods on the lake. I have no idea what antenna to use. Half of the house is facing the lake, which is free of tree's pretty much though.

I'd prefer a fairly cheap antenna (>$50)

And hopefully indoors for my bedroom.
post #4392 of 7075
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Originally Posted by mcclayton View Post

I live in Coventry, CT, pretty much in the woods on the lake. I have no idea what antenna to use. Half of the house is facing the lake, which is free of tree's pretty much though.

I'd prefer a fairly cheap antenna (>$50)

And hopefully indoors for my bedroom.

If you want reliable reception, plan on using an outdoor antenna. You can try an indoor antenna, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work for you. If you go the outdoor route, a ChannelMaster 4228 will work, and you may even be able to pick up WTNH (VHF ch 10) with it. Keep in mind that UHF signals are impaired by heavy tree (leaf) cover, so hopefully the part of your house facing the lake is facing west/southwest.

Ross
post #4393 of 7075
Please be aware that the long awaited Rattlesnake Mountain tower candelabra project has been underway for several weeks now. Because tower workers must pass through areas on the tower containing active broadcast antennas, transmission interruptions and/or power reductions are necessary to let the workers safely pass by. Starting Thursday, October 12, WTIC-TV (and others) will temporarily shift their operations to standby or temporary antennas until the project is completed. This will mean 8 weeks or so of reduced coverage. Hopefully the engineers from the respective stations will provide you with more detail.
post #4394 of 7075
Thanks for the heads-up achase!

Ross
post #4395 of 7075
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Originally Posted by RTracey View Post

If you want reliable reception, plan on using an outdoor antenna. You can try an indoor antenna, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work for you. If you go the outdoor route, a ChannelMaster 4228 will work, and you may even be able to pick up WTNH (VHF ch 10) with it. Keep in mind that UHF signals are impaired by heavy tree (leaf) cover, so hopefully the part of your house facing the lake is facing west/southwest.

Ross

Here in Cheshire I pick up WTNH-DT fine with a CM 4228. I get WTXX-DT, also. Both are high UHF channels, 10 and 12 respectively.
post #4396 of 7075
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Originally Posted by achase View Post

Please be aware that the long awaited Rattlesnake Mountain tower candelabra project has been underway for several weeks now. Because tower workers must pass through areas on the tower containing active broadcast antennas, transmission interruptions and/or power reductions are necessary to let the workers safely pass by. Starting Thursday, October 12, WTIC-TV (and others) will temporarily shift their operations to standby or temporary antennas until the project is completed. This will mean 8 weeks or so of reduced coverage. Hopefully the engineers from the respective stations will provide you with more detail.

Thanks for letting us know, we appreciate that. Can you tell us what the "(and others)" channels are? I believe the other channel is WTXX-DT?

Does standby or temporary mean totally off of the tower, or just lower down the tower? The term temporary brings thoughts to mind of a very low temp tower. At least I know now to change any of my Tivo recordings from WTIC-DT. Not good news for football fans.
post #4397 of 7075
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Originally Posted by achase View Post

Please be aware that the long awaited Rattlesnake Mountain tower candelabra project has been underway for several weeks now. Because tower workers must pass through areas on the tower containing active broadcast antennas, transmission interruptions and/or power reductions are necessary to let the workers safely pass by. Starting Thursday, October 12, WTIC-TV (and others) will temporarily shift their operations to standby or temporary antennas until the project is completed. This will mean 8 weeks or so of reduced coverage. Hopefully the engineers from the respective stations will provide you with more detail.

achase,

Thank you for the update. I got the sense that work was underway as my WTIC-DT signal would go from rock solid to almost nothing and back from time to time. I wish WTIC would provide this type of update more often. I do hope they have plans to be up as powerful as possible in prime time and weekends, assuming the tech's don't work at night or Sat/Sunday.

That said, the timing could not be worse as the 8-week span will cover the MLB playoffs and the bulk of the football season, which WTIC has a heavy hand in broadcasting.
post #4398 of 7075
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Originally Posted by CHDinCT View Post

That said, the timing could not be worse as the 8-week span will cover the MLB playoffs and the bulk of the football season, which WTIC has a heavy hand in broadcasting.

I concur....
post #4399 of 7075
Finally WTXX-DT has stopped stretching their non hd feed! It's about time. Now if WCTX would stop stretching theirs.....
post #4400 of 7075
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Originally Posted by jake14mw View Post

Thanks for letting us know, we appreciate that. Can you tell us what the "(and others)" channels are? I believe the other channel is WTXX-DT?

Does standby or temporary mean totally off of the tower, or just lower down the tower? The term temporary brings thoughts to mind of a very low temp tower. At least I know now to change any of my Tivo recordings from WTIC-DT. Not good news for football fans.

The main WTIC-TV analog antenna is now disconnected and will be lowered next week. They are on their stand-by antenna, which is about halfway up the tower. After the old WTIC-TV antenna is taken down, the top section of the tower will be replaced with a candelabra array. WTIC-TV (analog) will immediately return to the top of the tower (as part of the candelabra) and will be joined by WEDH (analog) broadcasting from their new location for the first time. WTXX-DT will be combined with WTIC-DT in a joint antenna stack when their new antenna is built and delivered, but as is the case with WEDH-DT, the F.C.C. STILL hasn't gotten around to giving the stations their final approval. I know you don't want to hear this, but that means even though the candelabra will be in operation in about a month, the permanent (and full power) WTIC-DT, WTXX-DT, and WEDH-DT antennas will not be delivered in time for the winter construction shutdown...

Other than short periods of shutdown and/or reduced power, WTIC-DT and WTXX-DT's existing temporary facilities shouldn't degrade from where they've been.
post #4401 of 7075
I lost WTIC-DT during the Tigers-A's game Wednesday night. I don't think it was a case of reduced coverage as I am basically at the foot of Rattlesnake Mt. In fact I can see the tower lights from my living room window when the leaves fall.

Thanks as always for the update Mr. Chase even though the news is mixed. Can't believe that the WEDH problem is still going on.
post #4402 of 7075
WEDH-TV analog coming off of Rattlesnake Mountain is news to me...GREAT NEWS! I can't get a good signal whatsoever from their existing Avon Mountain transmitter here in New Britain's south end (I'm at the bottom of Walnut Hill, which is in the same direction). The same thing with WUVN-TV (UNI) analog channel 18. Are there any plans to put them on Rattlesnake as well (analog or digital)? Also, will any of this work affect the cable feed of WTIC-DT, WTXX-DT and The Tube on WTXX-DT 12-2 ("20-2")?

I just did an analog channel scan. Channel 61 looked the same as it always did. When I tried the digital antenna scan, nothing showed up on WTXX-DT (same with The Tube, since it's a WTXX-DT subchannel).
post #4403 of 7075
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Originally Posted by raoul5788 View Post

I have a Channel Master 4228 on the roof. Your antenna is probably the problem.

Yeah... thing is though that I don't want to have to mount a huge, ugly antenna to my roof. I'm leaving that as a very, very last resort. I think I have 2 other options beforehand to consider: either try an Attic solution, or attach an antenna on to my DirecTV satellite dish. Which would be more likely to provide a better signal? BTW I have Vinyl siding on my house. Could that cause interference?
post #4404 of 7075
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Originally Posted by KML0224 View Post

WEDH-TV analog coming off of Rattlesnake Mountain is news to me...GREAT NEWS! I can't get a good signal whatsoever from their existing Avon Mountain transmitter here in New Britain's south end (I'm at the bottom of Walnut Hill, which is in the same direction). The same thing with WUVN-TV (UNI) analog channel 18. Are there any plans to put them on Rattlesnake as well (analog or digital)? Also, will any of this work affect the cable feed of WTIC-DT, WTXX-DT and The Tube on WTXX-DT 12-2 ("20-2")?

I just did an analog channel scan. Channel 61 looked the same as it always did. When I tried the digital antenna scan, nothing showed up on WTXX-DT (same with The Tube, since it's a WTXX-DT subchannel).

Part of your problem with WEDH is the fact that since a piece of transmission line burned up last spring, the transmitter has been at half power. That will be addressed by, as Arnold mentioned, a new transmitter is being installed on Rattlesnake Mountain (Nov/Dec). The new antenna has been delivered and will be installed along with WTIC "and others".

Unfortunately, the WEDH-DT situation hasn't changed as yet, although, rumors have been comming out of New Jersey and New York. So, that may change. There is light at the end of the tunnel... let's hope it's not a train.

As far as WUVN, I'm surprised you can't get it blasting in. I just did a quick terrain plot and unless you have a poor antenna (indoor) you should get it. If you get WTIC then WUVN is right across the street.
post #4405 of 7075
I don't think WEDH-TV channel 24 being at reduced power is the problem. It's always been poor ever since my family moved into New Britain's south end back in 1978. The same thing goes for the many incarnations of channel 18. Using a roof antenna in the attic only made things slightly better (but still problematic). Proof it's the terrain? I once lived in New Britain's east end by East Street for a 5-month span in 1991. Channels 18 and 24 came in beautifully. Also, I'd get a decent signal of channels 22 and 40 from Springfield, MA (don't remember how channel 57 was). Channel 3 was always decent, with channel 8 of New Haven coming in better at times.

Move to today and the digital: Up until the transmitter work at Rattlesnake Mountain, I had the best results from WVIT-DT (NBC) and WTIC-DT (FOX). WTXX-DT (CW) was fair while WTNH-DT (ABC), WHPX-DT (I) and WCTX-DT (MY) are OK. Throw in the above problems with Avon Mountain and what do I get? Very sporadic signal from both WFSB-DT (CBS) and WUVN-DT (UNI). This is why I'm hoping that WEDH-DT (PBS) will be on Rattlesnake as opposed to Avon Mountain.
post #4406 of 7075
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Originally Posted by davevandam View Post

Yeah... thing is though that I don't want to have to mount a huge, ugly antenna to my roof. I'm leaving that as a very, very last resort. I think I have 2 other options beforehand to consider: either try an Attic solution, or attach an antenna on to my DirecTV satellite dish. Which would be more likely to provide a better signal? BTW I have Vinyl siding on my house. Could that cause interference?

The clip on type antennas have mixed results, meaning that they don't work very well, usually. Any siding will block some signal, as will roofing materials or anything solid.
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post #4407 of 7075
I live in Manchester, and the only problem I have getting some channels is the aluminum siding at the gable ends of my house. If I point the antenna through the roof so that it doesn't need to go through the ends it works fine. Same thing with my wireless router. If I want a signal in my garage, I need to put the router right at a window or my laptop won't see it, but at a window it works great.
post #4408 of 7075
KML0224:

PM me with your street address and I'll do another terrain plot (include an email address that I can send the results to). If you are due south of the hospital on Walnut Hill, the hill is probably blocking Avon Mountain.

FYI: The WEDH-DT antenna will be mounted on the same pylon as WEDH-24 analog antenna.
post #4409 of 7075
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Originally Posted by davevandam View Post

Yeah... thing is though that I don't want to have to mount a huge, ugly antenna to my roof. I'm leaving that as a very, very last resort. I think I have 2 other options beforehand to consider: either try an Attic solution, or attach an antenna on to my DirecTV satellite dish. Which would be more likely to provide a better signal? BTW I have Vinyl siding on my house. Could that cause interference?

Dave,

I currently have a CM 4228 but first tried a Winegard Square Shooter. Using a CM 7777 pre amp with both, I got about the same reception except for WTNH-DT. The Square Shooter was more directional and with it pointed at New Britain, I could not pick up WTNH. It would pick it up if I rotated it towards New Haven, but then I lost the New Britain stations. The CM 4228 picks up WTNH while being pointed at New Britain. Anyway, it's a smallish antenna that can be mounted on the satellite pole with pretty good, albeit not perfect, performance. I still have it in my garage in fact. Here's a picture of it: http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_disp...p?prod=SS-1000
post #4410 of 7075
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Originally Posted by CHDinCT View Post

Dave,

I currently have a CM 4228 but first tried a Winegard Square Shooter. Using a CM 7777 pre amp with both, I got about the same reception except for WTNH-DT. The Square Shooter was more directional and with it pointed at New Britain, I could not pick up WTNH. It would pick it up if I rotated it towards New Haven, but then I lost the New Britain stations. The CM 4228 picks up WTNH while being pointed at New Britain. Anyway, it's a smallish antenna that can be mounted on the satellite pole with pretty good, albeit not perfect, performance. I still have it in my garage in fact. Here's a picture of it: http://www.solidsignal.com/prod_disp...p?prod=SS-1000

That's exactly my experience, Chris. Here in Cheshire I have mine pointed at Rattlesnake Mtn and get WTNH-DT and WCTX-DT with virtually no dropouts.
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