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post #6361 of 7018
6/22/09 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by otainnewhaven View Post

Hey anybody out there know where my CBS has gone? Stopped receiving sometime yesterday (had previously received four variations: Hartford, Springfield, some nonstop news etc.).

Channel 24 comes in intermittently with pixelation; Channel 65-1 and 65-2 EDY are crystal.

Thank you for your report from New Haven.
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post #6362 of 7018
6/24/09 at 8:05am
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Originally Posted by otainnewhaven View Post

Hey anybody out there know where my CBS has gone? Stopped receiving sometime yesterday (had previously received four variations: Hartford, Springfield, some nonstop news etc.).

Channel 24 comes in intermittently with pixelation; Channel 65-1 and 65-2 EDY are crystal.

Best guess is interference from WCBS, also on 33. The FCC should be taken out and shot for allowing CBS's in adjacent LARGE markets to have the same channel number.
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post #6363 of 7018
6/24/09 at 8:10am
And then there's the other side of the state with channel 20 being sent out from both Farmington, CT (WTXX-DT) and Needham, MA (WCVB-DT). Lastly, isn't somebody using channel 45 in New York City? I know WEDH-DT is on channel 45 presently.
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post #6364 of 7018
6/24/09 at 8:12am
WABC-DT was on 45 before moving back to 7. I'm wondering if WABC-DT might end up back ont 45 before all is said and done...

- Trip
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post #6365 of 7018
6/25/09 at 10:22am
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Originally Posted by KML-224 View Post

And then there's the other side of the state with channel 20 being sent out from both Farmington, CT (WTXX-DT) and Needham, MA (WCVB-DT). Lastly, isn't somebody using channel 45 in New York City? I know WEDH-DT is on channel 45 presently.

for me up in Massachusetts also..

WTIC Hartford and WFXT from Boston are on UHF 31

Granted I'm close to the 'fringe' for Boston, but WCVB was 80% on my Panny plasma's signal meter before the DTV switch. Now I get nothing on 20 since WTXX switched back to it for digital and when WFXT switched on at full power I lost anything on 31. Granted, WTIC wasn't coming in up here but my TV did scan it.

I think I also have reception issues with Boston's WSBK because WCTX and WSBK are both on 39. And no, I don't think it's WGGB on 40 causing interference. I receive WLVI on 41 fine, not to mention WHDH(42) and WGBX(43).

I have a clearstream4 antenna with a channel master 7778 amp pointed towards Boston's antennas on my roof.

I know signals can't be stopped at the State line and I'm not saying they should. The reason WTXX and WTIC have the signals they do is to cover most if not all of CT. Which I feel is good for you guys down there. But I don't think I should have to pay for it by losing reception of my stations and vice versa. It just seems the FCC didn't really look at this fully. The area between the stations lose out. There should be enough frequency available to prevent this situation.

I'll get off the soap box..
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post #6366 of 7018
6/27/09 at 6:33am
I know WVIT lost power during the height of the storm, mentioning to viewers that they were using generator power while detailing the weather problems around 4:50 PM or so on Friday in West Hartford. I don't presently have my antenna set up. The QAM Tuner Comcast signal never went out on channel 90-2. I'm in the southern end of New Britain and thankfully, it wasn't as bad here. No hail or power problems at my place.
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post #6367 of 7018
6/27/09 at 6:35am
Neither my DISH sat receiver nor my digital set top converter box show OTA picture on 30-1 thru 30-3, but signal strength shows mid 80s. Channels 35-3 thru 35-5 showing WVIT picture. I've gone ahead and done a rescan on my DISH 622 receiver and my Digitalstream coverter box.
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post #6368 of 7018
6/27/09 at 11:45am
The news anchors had said that Channel 30 was very briefly off the air yesterday afternoon before their generator kicked in. This may have somehow affected the PSIP information, as last evening and today my tuner also shows WVIT as being on channel 35-3. This is their actual OTA main digital channel - the PSIP code that is embedded in their broadcast signal normally tells TVs and receivers at home to display the channel as 30-1.

The other thing that I noticed was that their 24-hour weather subchannel and Universal Sports were back in my channel line-up without my selecting them to be there. Past experience has taught me that, when a station turns off its digital streams, either on purpose (maintenance) or involuntarily (transmitter power failure), and then turns them back on, the subchannels that I had long ago elected not to include in my line-up return to the line-up on their own. I then have to edit out those unwanted subchannels again.
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post #6369 of 7018
6/27/09 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by WHNB View Post

This may have somehow affected the PSIP information, as last evening and today my tuner also shows WVIT as being on channel 35-3.

I'm seeing the same thing here on my Zenith STB.
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post #6370 of 7018
6/27/09 at 9:24pm
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Originally Posted by jzareski View Post

Curious if in New Britain (south of Walnut Hill Park?) you tried WEDW DT-49 Bridgeport (Trumbull / Shelton town line) since the June 13, 2009 ERP increase from 41 kW to 91 kW? We noted a measurable improvement in Hartford.

I'm in the south end of New Britain, at the bottom of Walnut Hill. With the indoor antenna attached to my Insignia digital converter box, I'm getting the expected strong signal of WEDH-DT from Rattlesnake Mountain. My box hesitates on WEDN-DT from Norwich, but never locks. (It used to most of the time when WEDN was on channel 45 before the move.) I don't get a trace of either WEDY from New Haven or WEDW from Bridgeport.

All I have to use for an antenna is an RCA "batwing" antenna, resting horizontally atop a south-facing second floor window.
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post #6371 of 7018
6/29/09 at 8:30pm
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Originally Posted by KML-224 View Post

I'm in the south end of New Britain, at the bottom of Walnut Hill. With the indoor antenna attached to my Insignia digital converter box, I'm getting the expected strong signal of WEDH-DT from Rattlesnake Mountain. My box hesitates on WEDN-DT from Norwich, but never locks. (It used to most of the time when WEDN was on channel 45 before the move.) I don't get a trace of either WEDY from New Haven or WEDW from Bridgeport.

All I have to use for an antenna is an RCA "batwing" antenna, resting horizontally atop a south-facing second floor window.

Well, it's the same broadcasting on all of them. So if you get WEDH like gangbusters, there's nothing that WEDN or WEDY are going to add other than to your channel count.
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post #6372 of 7018
6/30/09 at 5:58am
Anyone else having issues receiving 61-1, 20-1, and 20-2? I am getting nothing with my Directv HR20-700. All other stations have very good to excellent signal strength.
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post #6373 of 7018
6/30/09 at 5:07pm
Yay! PSIP on Fox 61. I've been complaining about my channel 31-3 for 6 months.

Edit: That lasted about 20 minutes, and then they started getting glitching, and seem to have given up.
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post #6374 of 7018
7/1/09 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by Smackfu View Post

Yay! PSIP on Fox 61. I've been complaining about my channel 31-3 for 6 months.

Always seemed to work fine here, on both my Zenith and Magnavox STB's
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post #6375 of 7018
7/4/09 at 8:00am
DIRECTV has added WEDW to NY DMA lineup. HD receivers only.

Tribune still has no guide info for WEDY or WEDW 49.2
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post #6376 of 7018
7/4/09 at 10:35am
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Originally Posted by jzareski View Post

The CPTV legacy analog equipment downloads were restarted by Macrovision on Monday April 6, 2009.

The analog units for OTA will be operating until June 12, 2009, when analog OTA is anticipated to be be turned off Friday night at 11:59 PM.

The analog unit for the Comcast direct fiber feed will remain in use for as long as Comcast continues to use it in support of their analog tier.

jzareski - FYI - I am now getting a consistent analog host on my TVGOS Sony DVRs from Comcast. Even my older RCA TV set with a much older TVGOS system that had been with no listings for a couple of months is back up and running. The good news is that even if I just get connect the OTA feed to my Sony DVRs, they work with the digital 24-1 host. So, if Comcast ever decides to terminate their digital to analog conversion, I'll still be in business. Thanks for all of the updates and info over the last several months!
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post #6377 of 7018
7/5/09 at 4:52am
Here's a silly question: Now that WTXX-TV analog channel 20 of Waterbury is off the air, what will happen to their old red and white striped tower in the Naugatuck/Prospect area? Radio station? Cell phone service? Hmmmmm!
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post #6378 of 7018
7/6/09 at 9:11am
Reception has been most interesting since I returned to Mystic. Having some NYC stations co-channel with Hartford stations is looking quite silly now, not that it didn't before. I have now logged WPXN/31 from NYC, despite, supposedly having a null in this direction. It is wiping out WTIC/31 quite frequently, even when I'm not pointing the antenna to NYC.

Here are the NYC results pointing a small 2-bay HD-1080 and a YA1713 towards NYC from earlier today (in dB), from my parents' house in Mystic, CT:

WABC 15-16
WNJB n/s
WPIX 27-29
WNET 28-29
WMBC 16-17
WLIW 23-24
WFTY 31-32
WNYE 30-32
WTBY n/s
WNBC 26-27
WFME 3-4
WFUT 30-32
WPXN 21-22
WCBS 25-27
WNJU 28-30
WWOR 25-27
WXTV 28-29
WSAH 0-3
WNYW 30-32
WLNY 27-28
WRNN n/s
WEDW 16-18
WNJN 20-21

It is fairly close to the water, so there isn't much in the way of NYC other than the curvature of the Earth itself. Many of these signals are stronger than what I can get from Hartford (Farmington).

I've already stated (probably too many times), that we shouldn't have given up at least 52-59, but I guess the FCC doesn't concern itself with tropo.
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post #6379 of 7018
7/6/09 at 9:28am
Wow! I thought the salt water would only enhance AM signals? (Perhaps it's your line of sight?) How do you do with the antenna pointed towards either Hartford or Providence?
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post #6380 of 7018
7/6/09 at 12:39pm
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Originally Posted by KML-224 View Post

How do you do with the antenna pointed towards either Hartford or Providence?

NYC is near LOS if not for the Earth's curve. Only a few trees (partial obstruction) and then it's open water.

Hartford and Providence are much more challenging. UHF signals from Providence have always been absent, so I haven't tried again yet this year. I will be trying VHF to Providence soon, but WNET worries me as re 13.

Here are the Hartford results, from last night - after tropo had faded a bit, with the CM4228 (fixed to Farmington) and the YA1713 pointed towards New Haven. I need about 17dB (SNR) for a workable signal.

WEDN 26-27
WTNH 26-27
WPXQ 16-18
WTXX 17-19
WLIW 17-18
WFTY 27-29 (It acts like a local station in the summer, but is at 59 miles - I even picked it up with unamped rabbit ears over WTNH and WEDN)
WHPX 30-32
WTIC 21-22 (variable)
WCBS 3-6
WFSB n/s (WCBS blocks)
WVIT 11-14
WCTX 3-4
WNYW 18-19
WEDH 22-23

Note that WTIC is highly variable and WFSB is absent, as always. Any hints I had in the past for WFSB have probably been from WPIX, now WCBS/33. WVIT/35 continues to disappoint. They really need to at least move to the top of their own tower. I would probably need to have them double their power as well.
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post #6381 of 7018
7/10/09 at 6:08pm
WEDN Pictures

CPTV was kind to allow a tour of the WEDN/9 facility in Bozrah. Attached are some pictures of the facility and the tower.

Note that the 53 antenna is still at the top of the tower. The 9 antenna is side-mounted. Apparently, due to FAA regulations, it makes more sense to keep the 53 antenna at the top, even if it's no longer used.

The 45 antenna has been removed. The klystron pictured was for analog 53. The former UHF 45 had an IOT.

The transmitter cabinet for VHF/9 is much smaller than the UHF cabinets, due to the solid state transmitters used. Solid state transmitters are not practical for high power UHF installations, however.

Thanks again to CPTV and mdodge.
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post #6382 of 7018
7/11/09 at 11:09am
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Originally Posted by Falcon_77 View Post

Apparently, due to FAA regulations, it makes more sense to keep the 53 antenna at the top, even if it's no longer used.

Could you expand on this? I would be curious to know what kind of silliness requires that an unused antenna should remain in the preferred position on a transmitting tower.

Tnx.
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post #6383 of 7018
7/11/09 at 11:52am
They need to keep the top height constant or they would have to do a new set of paper work for the FAA.
John
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post #6384 of 7018
7/13/09 at 9:37am
Tnx.
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post #6385 of 7018
7/13/09 at 11:45am
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Originally Posted by ctdish View Post

They need to keep the top height constant or they would have to do a new set of paper work for the FAA.
John

You would think that they'd want to switch out the antenna and do the required paperwork.
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post #6386 of 7018
7/13/09 at 4:42pm
WVIT ran a promo in high definition at 5:39PM today wherein news anchor Gerry Brooks announced that "this is the week" that NBC 30 will become NBC 30 Connecticut HD. No specific day was mentioned for the inaugural hi-def newscast.

Last Friday during a commercial break for the 6PM news, I saw a high definition promo on Channel 30 for the upcoming "Jay Leno Show". It was the first time that I saw anything in HD during local (non-network) airtime on 30.

For quite awhile now, my first impression whenever I turned to Channel 30 was how dark the picture looked during their local news. It was as if the brightness level on my TV was stepped down below the midpoint of the scale, or as if a few overhead spotlights for the news set had burned out. The dark picture was also noticeable during the pre-taped news "packages" that were run. The cause for this dark quality is most likely the older equipment that this station has been using.

Beginning early last week, the darkness was less noticeable, so maybe at that point they started routing through the new master control. But since they are currently still using the older studio cameras and broadcasting in standard digital, the picture quality is yet to be at its best. When the station finally does permanently switch to the new HD equipment in their new building, the change on my HDTV screen should be nothing less than stunning.

I just hope that when they make the switch to high definition that they get rid of all that graphic garbage that they currently superimpose in the lower right during most of the newscast: two peacock logos and two references to NBC in their channel bug and in their website address, the time, and the temperature. They are under orders from their parent company to promote the web address, but it is so long that it extends to the bottom middle of the screen, and it is an eyesore. If a station spends millions on a new studio building and state-of-the-art equipment, why cover up the TV picture that is broadcast with words and numbers that state the obvious?

WFSB 3 has been running a high definition promo that features their meteorologists in front of New England settings: a red barn, the seashore, etc. I don't know if they produced this in-house or had an outside production company make it, but the picture quality is outstanding. It leads me to believe that whenever their parent company gives Channel 3 the greenlight and the funds to go fully HD, the results will be spectacular.
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7/13/09 at 5:04pm
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Originally Posted by WHNB View Post

WVIT ran a promo in high definition at 5:39PM today wherein news anchor Gerry Brooks announced that "this is the week" that NBC 30 will become NBC 30 Connecticut HD. No specific day was mentioned for the inaugural hi-def newscast.

Last Friday during a commercial break for the 6PM news, I saw a high definition promo on Channel 30 for the upcoming "Jay Leno Show". It was the first time that I saw anything in HD during local (non-network) airtime on 30.

For quite awhile now, my first impression whenever I turned to Channel 30 was how dark the picture looked during their local news. It was as if the brightness level on my TV was stepped down below the midpoint of the scale, or as if a few overhead spotlights for the news set had burned out. The dark picture was also noticeable during the pre-taped news "packages" that were run. The cause for this dark quality is most likely the older equipment that this station has been using.

Beginning early last week, the darkness was less noticeable, so maybe at that point they started routing through the new master control. But since they are currently still using the older studio cameras and broadcasting in standard digital, the picture quality is yet to be at its best. When the station finally does permanently switch to the new HD equipment in their new building, the change on my HDTV screen should be nothing less than stunning.

I just hope that when they make the switch to high definition that they get rid of all that graphic garbage that they currently superimpose in the lower right during most of the newscast: two peacock logos and two references to NBC in their channel bug and in their website address, the time, and the temperature. They are under orders from their parent company to promote the web address, but it is so long that it extends to the bottom middle of the screen, and it is an eyesore. If a station spends millions on a new studio building and state-of-the-art equipment, why cover up the TV picture that is broadcast with words and numbers that state the obvious?

WFSB 3 has been running a high definition promo that features their meteorologists in front of New England settings: a red barn, the seashore, etc. I don't know if they produced this in-house or had an outside production company make it, but the picture quality is outstanding. It leads me to believe that whenever their parent company gives Channel 3 the greenlight and the funds to go fully HD, the results will be spectacular.

According to WVIT engineer they will start their local news in HD at 11am July 14, and they will be all HD from then on. It is about time. There are smaller TV markets than Hartford/New Haven that had their local news news in HD for few years already.
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post #6388 of 7018
7/13/09 at 5:48pm
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Originally Posted by CKNA View Post

According to WVIT engineer they will start their local news in HD at 11am July 14, and they will be all HD from then on...

Thank you - I'll make it a point to watch tomorrow's 5PM news on 30 when I get home from work. The WEDH engineers made CPTV first in the state with local high definition, and WVIT's upgrade is historic as the first commercial station in Connecticut.

If I remember correctly, I think I read that Channel 30 had an earlier milestone as the first station in CT to convert to color, owing to their affiliation with the first network to go all-color, NBC. I would have thought that the original WTIC Channel 3 would have beaten them to it, owing to their deep-pocketed owner, Travelers Insurance.
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post #6389 of 7018
7/14/09 at 4:00am
WEDY has petitioned to move from channel 6 to channel 41, and thus increase power from 0.4 kW to 200 kW.

- Trip
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post #6390 of 7018
7/14/09 at 5:59am
Let's hope! I can't get even a trace of them here in New Britain.
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