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post #301 of 3739
Did anyone notice that the last couple weeks that ABC, both 187 and 7, skips and hiccups every 30 seconds or so? I checked and it was doing it on all 3 of my boxes. I have a 3412, 6412 and a regular digital box. Comcast just gave me the 3412 for a bad 6412. This one is no better. LOUD harddrive noise, plent of artiacting on channels 120-200. Ughh.

Mike
post #302 of 3739
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Originally Posted by TivoMaster View Post

Did anyone notice that the last couple weeks that ABC, both 187 and 7, skips and hiccups every 30 seconds or so?

Mike

That was happening for me on the Oscars last night via Directv. It's a problem with WBND.
post #303 of 3739
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Originally Posted by Mike Lang View Post

That was happening for me on the Oscars last night via Directv. It's a problem with WBND.

Agreed, it was happening on WBND via OTA as well. At first we thought it might have been the censoring for the "pimp" song, but it went on during commercials as well. I thought someone was throwing the switch between land and satellite feeds since the delay between the signals was two-three seconds. My wife was highly annoyed (like the early days of watching ATSC), and this was NTSC!
post #304 of 3739
Last night I enjoyed Boston Legal on WBND on Comcast in HD.

It was a beautiful picture. Let's hope WMWB follows suit soon. Can't wait to see Smallville in HD too.

Adam
post #305 of 3739
I get 187 (ABC) on my QAM tuner on channel 80.2 and 192 (WB) on 80.1 without an extra $5 or a box with my basic service (after all, that is the purpose of a QAM tuner -- to replace the box and get the unencrypted channels). The Superbowl was in HD but mostly 80.2 (187) is digital nonHD.

However, I was not able to find the other 4 on this list with an automatic setup when I first got the TV in January. Three different Comcast reps told me they had no idea what a QAM tuner was. I have not tried recently. Anyone able to get them on the QAM tuner and knows what QAM channel numbers they are on?

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Originally Posted by donrb5 View Post

You can get a Digital Cable box for HD via Comcast even on the $14 Basic Cable Package for an additional $5. HD local Lineup

187 - ABC - Digital but not HD yet
188 - NBC - Digital and HD
189 - CBS - Digital and HD
190 - FOX - Digital and HD
191 - PBS - Digital and HD
192 - WB - Digital but not HD yet
post #306 of 3739
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Originally Posted by vladli View Post

I get 187 (ABC) on my QAM tuner on channel 80.2 and 192 (WB) on 80.1 without an extra $5 or a box with my basic service (after all, that is the purpose of a QAM tuner -- to replace the box and get the unencrypted channels). The Superbowl was in HD but mostly 80.2 (187) is digital nonHD.

However, I was not able to find the other 4 on this list with an automatic setup when I first got the TV in January. Three different Comcast reps told me they had no idea what a QAM tuner was. I have not tried recently. Anyone able to get them on the QAM tuner and knows what QAM channel numbers they are on?

I just got comcast (mainly for the internet) and already had a QAM receiver. I get the following with my receiver (LG LST-3410a)...

80.3...WB in 1080i but not HD
80.4...ABC in 720p but not HD
87.1- ... E! but it is a double image. One in top right and one in bottom left corner of screen. very weird
87.2 thru 87.? seem to be "on demand" movies. These blip on and off every few minutes most of the time. Not watchable.
94.21 thru 94.28...audio only channels
112.1...TNT HD 1080i (No Audio ever...only video)
116.1...WSBT CBS HD
116.2...WNIT PBS HD
117.1...WNDU NBC HD
117.2...WSJV FOX HD
123.1...WB 480i
123.2...WHME 480i
123.3...PBS 480i
123.4...UPN 480i
123.5...WSBT 480i
123.6...WSJV FOX 480i
123.7...WNDU NBC 480i
123.8...WBND ABC 480i
124.1...CBS (Chicago) 480i
124.2...ABC (Chicago) 480i
124.3...PBS WTTW (Chicago) 480i
124.4...NBC (Chicago) 480i
124.9...WGN (Chicago) 480i
131.42...Weather Channel 480i
132.2...TV Guide channel 480i

A few other "non-real channels" I never watch (local comcast adds, Shop @ home, etc...)

80.3 and 80.4 (WB and ABC's HD Feeds) come and go. Reception is very inconsistent. I have never seen actual HD programming on, but since I quit watching Lost (will that show ever end???), I don't watch anything on these channels regularly. The 87.2 thru 87.??? are the same way with reception. I can't tell the channel. Like I said, appears to be possibly On Demand channels. Only ever shows movies, but it constantly cuts in and out. I never watch the HD PBS, CBS, NBC, FOX, UPN b/c I get those OTA and quality is much, much better than comcast.
post #307 of 3739
All:

Thanks for your patience. As of last night (3/7), WMWB and WBND are passing all network HD programming that is available with little compression fed to Comcast. What Comcast does is beyond our control.

5.1 coming soon...
post #308 of 3739
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Originally Posted by tvmicrowave2002 View Post

All:

Thanks for your patience. As of last night (3/7), WMWB and WBND are passing all network HD programming that is available with little compression fed to Comcast. What Comcast does is beyond our control.

5.1 coming soon...

Great! Thanks a bunch.

Al
post #309 of 3739
Thanks. I do get PBS, CBS, NBC, and FOX OTA without any problem. I am just curious why my Tosh 37HL95 did not pick them up from Comcast but my feed is not good which can be the reason. I'll try to pick them up manually.

ABS last night on my 80.2 was HD, I believe. Perhaps, they will be more consistent now.

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Originally Posted by joshMV4 View Post

I just got comcast (mainly for the internet) and already had a QAM receiver. I get the following with my receiver (LG LST-3410a)...

80.3...WB in 1080i but not HD
80.4...ABC in 720p but not HD
87.1- ... E! but it is a double image. One in top right and one in bottom left corner of screen. very weird
87.2 thru 87.? seem to be "on demand" movies. These blip on and off every few minutes most of the time. Not watchable.
94.21 thru 94.28...audio only channels
112.1...TNT HD 1080i (No Audio ever...only video)
116.1...WSBT CBS HD
116.2...WNIT PBS HD
117.1...WNDU NBC HD
117.2...WSJV FOX HD
123.1...WB 480i
123.2...WHME 480i
123.3...PBS 480i
123.4...UPN 480i
123.5...WSBT 480i
123.6...WSJV FOX 480i
123.7...WNDU NBC 480i
123.8...WBND ABC 480i
124.1...CBS (Chicago) 480i
124.2...ABC (Chicago) 480i
124.3...PBS WTTW (Chicago) 480i
124.4...NBC (Chicago) 480i
124.9...WGN (Chicago) 480i
131.42...Weather Channel 480i
132.2...TV Guide channel 480i

A few other "non-real channels" I never watch (local comcast adds, Shop @ home, etc...)

80.3 and 80.4 (WB and ABC's HD Feeds) come and go. Reception is very inconsistent. I have never seen actual HD programming on, but since I quit watching Lost (will that show ever end???), I don't watch anything on these channels regularly. The 87.2 thru 87.??? are the same way with reception. I can't tell the channel. Like I said, appears to be possibly On Demand channels. Only ever shows movies, but it constantly cuts in and out. I never watch the HD PBS, CBS, NBC, FOX, UPN b/c I get those OTA and quality is much, much better than comcast.
post #310 of 3739
W18CF, the 2 kw repeater of TBN on channel 18, has requested to flash-cut to digital on channel 18 and increase power to 8 kw.

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...&fac_num=67973

This would effectively increase their broadcast range by quite a bit, going into LaPorte county, southeast towards Warsaw, and up two counties in Michigan.

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs...ibit_id=378792

Since this is a flash cut with no interference, my *guess* is that the FCC will approve this.

Edit: just noticed that ALL TBN low-power stations below channel 52 have requested
a flash cut to digital nationwide!
post #311 of 3739
Just wondering if anyone esle knows how long the closed captioing has been absent from channel 22.1 hd programming from WSBT?

I've already contacted WSBT about this and they replied very promptly that is is because a part is needed and is currently on backorder. That was about 3 weeks ago and still no captioning. I don't expect the problem to be fixed overnight but I just wondered if this has been a problem for longer than the 3 weeks I have had my hd tv. I thought maybe this was a standard response to a longtime problem. Any info would be appreciated since my wife needs captioning to enjoy their programs!
post #312 of 3739
We are having the same problem with WBND-HD. As crazy as it may sound, ABC network does not provide closed captioning with their network HD signal. We ordered an HD closed caption encoder that "grabs" the CC data from the standard def stream and encodes it into the HD stream.

Perhaps CBS follows the same crazy structure. CC on ABC true HD programming should be available in the next 2 weeks or so.

One thing to keep in mind, no one keeps anything in stock anymore. It seems that anything you order these days from the manufacture takes weeks to arrive...
post #313 of 3739
What happened to WBND & WMWB? During Lost and Smallville the picture was zoomed in so tight that you couldn't read the credits.
post #314 of 3739
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Originally Posted by Mike Lang View Post

What happened to WBND & WMWB? During Lost and Smallville the picture was zoomed in so tight that you couldn't read the credits.

Maybe you switched a setting on your TV? We watched lost on Wednesday and it wasnt zoomed at all...
post #315 of 3739
Nope it recorded that way on 2 different TV's/TiVos. I compared an older recorded episode to the current and the letterboxing was gone and the sides were cropped off along with text and credits. This was from the Directv signal, not OTA.
post #316 of 3739
Sounds like an isolated DirecTV issue as they process our signal after we hand it off to them. The over the air feed that we monitor was fine.
post #317 of 3739
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Originally Posted by tvmicrowave2002 View Post

Sounds like an isolated DirecTV issue as they process our signal after we hand it off to them. The over the air feed that we monitor was fine.

So the WBND & WMWB HD signals are being passed along to DirecTV now too? I was under the impression that only Comcast was getting those signals for now...

One other question. Does anyone have a link or a nice synopsis of how to explain to people the issue with the FCC and their requirements of broadcasters; i.e. when they will no longer need to broadcast analog signals, which will be about the time when most people will have to buy a set top converter or new digital capable tele's? I've been trying to explain this to friends and family. Even going as far as showing them the differences between analog, SD, and HD, and yet a few of them still have a look of utter confusion (or is it horror?) on their faces...

Maybe I would be better off just letting them figure it out on their own, or is this another way the government is going to try to thin out the herd?
post #318 of 3739
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike Lang View Post

What happened to WBND & WMWB? During Lost and Smallville the picture was zoomed in so tight that you couldn't read the credits.

E* transmitted WMWB the same way. I didn't check the OTA feed (but unless WMWB is giving D* or E* a digital link, the satellite company would have the same presentation as OTA.) It looked like instead of the letterboxed widescreen feed we got last year on WMWB we are now getting the center of a downconverted HD feed. Not cool. The Smallville reruns over the past few weeks have been full screen but I have not been watching close enough (until last Thursday) to realize that it was zoomed in and cropped.

I don't know what you see on your monitors, tvmicrowave2002, but what I have been seeing here in the market this year hasn't been good.
post #319 of 3739
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by sebenste View Post

W18CF, the 2 kw repeater of TBN on channel 18, has requested to flash-cut to digital on channel 18 and increase power to 8 kw.

Apparently GRANTED 3-16-06 ....

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...ion_id=1115930

Time to get a crew to swap out the antenna and equipment.
post #320 of 3739
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Originally Posted by justalurker View Post

E* transmitted WMWB the same way. I didn't check the OTA feed (but unless WMWB is giving D* or E* a digital link, the satellite company would have the same presentation as OTA.) It looked like instead of the letterboxed widescreen feed we got last year on WMWB we are now getting the center of a downconverted HD feed. Not cool. The Smallville reruns over the past few weeks have been full screen but I have not been watching close enough (until last Thursday) to realize that it was zoomed in and cropped.

I don't know what you see on your monitors, tvmicrowave2002, but what I have been seeing here in the market this year hasn't been good.

I'm pretty sure someone told me all the local feeds from South Bend were run to chicago via fiber from the WSBT station to Chicago then uplinked to E* and D* from there. Hopefully tvmicrowave2002 will be able to clarify for you. The OTA signals locally have been the same; analog and okay. Still no digital signals OTA for either one locally.
post #321 of 3739
Happened again tonight on Lost.
post #322 of 3739
Thread Starter 
Smallville on WB25 was zoomed in losing the widescreen and cropping titles on OTA and E*'s rebroadcast. I watched most of the episode on WPIX so I could get the full picture. It looks like that digital link to the transmitter site is in HD (with a feed off to Comcast for their "cable only" HD feed) but the actual transmitter in South Bend is airing the center of a HD image instead of the network SD signal. SD viewers in South Bend who don't have Comcast are losing out.
post #323 of 3739
Phoenixfury here in Elkhart! My housemates and I just put up an out door antenna which is still a work in progress. Most (but not all) of the analog channels are coming in a little fuzzy, but it doesn't help that we come up a little short on the mast to begin with. The antenna currently is pointed right directly at the chimney which is obviously in the way. I'm hoping another 5 ft link on the mast to get it above the chimney will fix this. However I did hook the out door antenna to my digital tv tuner card for signal adjustment which made finding the signals for each channel pretty easy. I am picking up all of the local digital channels pretty well, but only if I run the out door antenna through an amplified indoor antenna. The only channel I can't seem to get on the outdoor antenna well is WB 25, but with a flick of a switch to the indoor antenna, I pick up WB 25 pretty good. However I lost WNIT on the digital if I do this. Can't win them all I guess.

I'd also like to note that my tv setup is through Windows Media Center using a Happuage PVR 150 MCE analog tv card, and a Avermedia 180 digital card. Media Center does not list all of the digital channels and I had to enter them manually. I'd also like to note that Media Center does not list the correct listing for WNIT's HD channel, but is perfect for their SD channel. Changing this listing to the proper channel is a piece of cake. If anyone needs to know how to get WNIT's listing on the proper channel, feel free to contact me.
post #324 of 3739
I am considering switching (or at least increasing) my level of TV service from Comcast. I was watching the ESPN HD (comparing both) and DirecTV's version was registering in Dolby Digital but Comcast's ESPN HD was not.

I changed channels on both to HBO HD. Same thing. DirecTV's HBO registered as Dolby Digital on my receiver and Comcast did not.

Anybody else getting Dolby Digital from Comcast?
post #325 of 3739
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Originally Posted by donrb5 View Post

I am considering switching (or at least increasing) my level of TV service from Comcast. I was watching the ESPN HD (comparing both) and DirecTV's version was registering in Dolby Digital but Comcast's ESPN HD was not.

I changed channels on both to HBO HD. Same thing. DirecTV's HBO registered as Dolby Digital on my receiver and Comcast did not.

Anybody else getting Dolby Digital from Comcast?



3 power cycles later Dolby Digital returned
post #326 of 3739
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Originally Posted by donrb5 View Post

3 power cycles later Dolby Digital returned

Are you using a Motorola 6412 DVR? That's what I have and periodically it stops putting out DD5.1. I have to cycle the power and it always comes back with one power cycle.

Al
post #327 of 3739
yes I have the 6412
post #328 of 3739
Have there been any recent developments on the status of ABC WBND-HD OTA? Or is it still not expected for a while? Thanks
post #329 of 3739
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Originally Posted by musiclas View Post

Have there been any recent developments on the status of ABC WBND-HD OTA? Or is it still not expected for a while? Thanks

I am interested in this ABC channel as well, and WMWB WB25.
post #330 of 3739
Unfortunately, the FCC has delayed the DTV filing window from the first week in May until the second week in June. There is nothing that WBND and WMWB can legally do except wait. Once the applications have been filed, it could take months before the FCC approves. Both stations are available in HD on Comcast.
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