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post #481 of 3739
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They could be approved by the end of November. It all depends on if the applicants have really picked the right channels to get approved. If they made errors they can be corrected at this stage.

I would not be suprised to see some of the singletons on by the end of the year - and based on earlier posts in this thread, our local stations intend to be on A.S.A.P.
post #482 of 3739
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Originally Posted by musiclas View Post

I assume it would take a few months to process the applications? So would be realistic to say that OTA ABC 57 HD won't be available until early 2007? Thanks

Probably. We still need to hang antennas, transmission line, etc. Winter isn't exactly prime time for that.
post #483 of 3739
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Originally Posted by justalurker View Post

But does the SD picture have to be cropped off of the sides? I recorded Smallville tonight and when I played it back I got a full screen picture - the sides of the 16:9 picture are missing. Yet every other SD CW station I have access to (thanks to satellite SuperStations WPIX/KWGN/KTLA) is transmitting a letterboxed picture.

Partial apology ... WTTV Indianapolis is also doing a zoomed non-letterboxed presentation (which crops the opening credits as well as show content). Apparently CW25 isn't the only station doing this.
post #484 of 3739
Anybody else get screwed trying to watch Cold Case tonight? The first 8 minutes from WSBT-DT was nothing but colored test bars that said "NEW YORK TX HD" in the middle.
post #485 of 3739
Yeah I had that too. Something wrong with WSBT again. I switched to WCBS and it was playing it fine.
post #486 of 3739
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Originally Posted by Mike Lang View Post

Anybody else get screwed trying to watch Cold Case tonight? The first 8 minutes from WSBT-DT was nothing but colored test bars that said "NEW YORK TX HD" in the middle.

Hey, at least they were HD color bars!
post #487 of 3739
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Originally Posted by hvs10trk View Post

Hey, at least they were HD color bars!

You just worry about showing me some HD color bars on my ABC & CW!

I sent an email to WBST about some of the problems I'm seeing. I assume you all get these too?

Several issues have been popping up on the 22.1
channel lately:

1- Last night the first 8 minutes of Cold Case was
nothing but color test pattern bars that said "NEW
YORK TX HD" in the middle.

2- Many HD programs are getting switched over to 4:3
ratio before the end of the show. It's usually in the
last 5 minutes, however last week's CSI Miami went to
4:3 at the 47 minute mark.

3- I'm also getting a lot of intermittent black
screens for 1-10 seconds that say "Loss of input
signal". None of this is happening on 16.1 or 28.1.

Missing the first 8 minutes of a show like Cold Case
or 10 seconds of dialog in the right spot of any show
can ruin the whole thing.

Thanks,
Mike Lang
post #488 of 3739
Mike,

Yes I have the same issues with them lately and switching to 4:3, as well as an overall loss of signal quality for the past few weeks now, lots of drops. Before that I got perfect signal lock. I dont have that issue on the other channels. I have a feeling something is amis with their transmitter, and it just isnt 100% broken/fried yet.

Has anyone confirmed if the issue last night with Cold Case was only limited to WSBT? Or did other stations have this issue too? I know WCBS from NYC was fine.
post #489 of 3739
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Originally Posted by Mike Lang View Post

Anybody else get screwed trying to watch Cold Case tonight?

Am I safe in assuming this was OTA and not from Comcast?
post #490 of 3739
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Originally Posted by lmacmil View Post

Am I safe in assuming this was OTA and not from Comcast?

Correct
post #491 of 3739
Kinda quiet in here. Do I need to pull the plug on a station to get some momentum going??
post #492 of 3739
Thread Starter 
I'm waiting to cheer changes on WB25 ... (uncropped Smallville).

It would also be nice to see the "full form" applications on your LD stations ... 11 days to the deadline and no sign of them in the search yet. If you're bored you can talk to legal.

A quiet day is a good day - Both the Indy and Kzoo threads have been hot and heavy due to problems with stations. Evidently SBN stations are running well.
post #493 of 3739
I am moving to South Bend in a month. Just curious as to the current digital broadcast list. Just the main networks, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, CW for ota, cable, satellite. If anyone could post that I would appreciate it! Thanks
post #494 of 3739
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Originally Posted by manchild31 View Post

I am moving to South Bend in a month. Just curious as to the current digital broadcast list. Just the main networks, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, CW for ota, cable, satellite. If anyone could post that I would appreciate it! Thanks

We have:
NBC 16 analog, digital 42
CBS 22 analog, digital 30
Fox 28 analog, digital 58
PBS 34 analog, digital 35
Religious analog 46, digital 48
Analog only on ABC 57, CW 25 and My 69, but digital HD for ABC and CW is available on Comcast cable, along with NBC, CBS, Fox and PBS.

No HD on satellite so far.

Our digitals do pretty good Hidef most of the time, although NBC 16 stretches the SD pic, which I find annoying.

Al
post #495 of 3739
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Originally Posted by manchild31 View Post

I am moving to South Bend in a month. Just curious as to the current digital broadcast list. Just the main networks, NBC, ABC, CBS, FOX, CW for ota, cable, satellite. If anyone could post that I would appreciate it! Thanks

With Comcast digital cable you will also get ESPN, ESPN2, TNT, Discovery HD, and Comcast Sportsnet which will be mostly Chicago sports I think.

I am going to buy a Sony 50E2000 today. Yippee!
post #496 of 3739
Thanks for all the responses. Sounds like cable is the way to go if you want all the networks (ABC, CW) I read earlier in the forum that Comcast let you add HD to basic cable for only 5 dollars a month. Is that still accurate? Can you do the same thing with a HDDVR to basic cable?
post #497 of 3739
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Originally Posted by manchild31 View Post

I read earlier in the forum that Comcast let you add HD to basic cable for only 5 dollars a month. Is that still accurate? Can you do the same thing with a HDDVR to basic cable?

You can get ABC, CBS, etc with basic cable for $5. I'm pretty sure if you want HD ESPN, TNT, etc. you need to have digital cable. You also have to have digital cable to get the DVR.

I just sprung for Digital Classic (the cheapest digital package) and a DVR and will add HD when my HDTV is delivered this week. It's another $25/month over the basic package but the DVR is really convenient for recording shows and On-Demand is cool too. Plus there are some channels I wanted (Bravo, BBC America) that only come with digital cable.

"You pays yer money and you takes yer choice."
post #498 of 3739
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Originally Posted by justalurker View Post

I'm waiting to cheer changes on WB25 ... (uncropped Smallville). .

Haven't forgotten about you.

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Originally Posted by justalurker View Post

It would also be nice to see the "full form" applications on your LD stations ... 11 days to the deadline and no sign of them in the search yet. If you're bored you can talk to legal. .

All I can say is things are moving along.
post #499 of 3739
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Originally Posted by hvs10trk View Post

Haven't forgotten about you.


All I can say is things are moving along.

I seen that WMWB was off the air and WBND and WMYS was broadcasting dead air just a little bit ago.
post #500 of 3739
Thread Starter 
Apparently fixed.
post #501 of 3739
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Originally Posted by Eric Z View Post

I seen that WMWB was off the air and WBND and WMYS was broadcasting dead air just a little bit ago.

Well I know what the morning meet will be about.
post #502 of 3739
Since upgrading to digital cable from basic cable a couple weeks ago, I have noticed audio dropouts much more frequently. Usually it's just a few seconds but some have lasted more than 10 seconds. Is this just coincidence or is there something about digital cable or the DVR that's causing this?

These dropouts have all occurred on network TV and I think (but can't be positive) that it's been only on ABC and CW.
post #503 of 3739
I currently just have comcast basic cable. However on the South Bend Comcast PDF of channel lineup and prices they sent me, it states ABC, FOX, CBS, NBC and PBS are availble with HD equipment with just basic cable. I hooked up my first HD tv to it last night and did a DTV scan and it found 23 digital channels, but only 1 was being broadcast in HD (720p) which was ABC (i watched desperate housewives).

All the other local affiliates were on SD (480i). Am I doing something wrong or do I have to buy some package from comcast. I am only interested right now in the local networks being in HD (i know i can go OTA, but i am kind of far away from the towers and I do not want to invest in the roof antenna if I don't have to (an indoor antenna didn't cut it).
post #504 of 3739
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Originally Posted by wilkinschris View Post

I currently just have comcast basic cable. However on the South Bend Comcast PDF of channel lineup and prices they sent me, it states ABC, FOX, CBS, NBC and PBS are availble with HD equipment with just basic cable.

You have to get HD service which is $5/month. I think there must be some kind of set-top box that's needed.
post #505 of 3739
Cool. I could be way off base, but I thought there was FCC regulations where cable companies had to re-broadcast the local channels in HD on basic cable without charging anything extra to get HD. On a seperate thread (GV46L thread) others with comcast stated they just did a DTV scan with their TV's using comcast and all the local affiliates were found in HD with extended basic cable (which i have). For some reason in this market only ABC is in HD along with CW (just found out tonight), the others are there but they are in SD. Weird.
post #506 of 3739
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Originally Posted by lmacmil View Post

You have to get HD service which is $5/month. I think there must be some kind of set-top box that's needed.

The $5 a month is to rent the HD box. If you have a TV with QAM tuner you don't have any extra charge.

Al
post #507 of 3739
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Originally Posted by wilkinschris View Post

I currently just have comcast basic cable. However on the South Bend Comcast PDF of channel lineup and prices they sent me, it states ABC, FOX, CBS, NBC and PBS are availble with HD equipment with just basic cable. I hooked up my first HD tv to it last night and did a DTV scan and it found 23 digital channels, but only 1 was being broadcast in HD (720p) which was ABC (i watched desperate housewives).

All the other local affiliates were on SD (480i). Am I doing something wrong or do I have to buy some package from comcast. I am only interested right now in the local networks being in HD (i know i can go OTA, but i am kind of far away from the towers and I do not want to invest in the roof antenna if I don't have to (an indoor antenna didn't cut it).

I am guessing that your TV didn't find all the channels. Digital cable is very touchy for signal strength and quality. Maybe try hooking up your cable directly to the TV without any splitters and see if you get more.
post #508 of 3739
Thanks guys. I will try that. Right now it is being split to my cable modem also. My TV does have a QAM tuner builtin. I will let you know the results.
post #509 of 3739
Breaking NEWS....... Major Power outage in South Bend has several stations off the air. From what I am told a main power feeder line is down and power is not expected before 10am Wed.
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