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post #1201 of 1753
BTW, that looks like a really nice antenna. Probably overkill for this area, it being so flat, but I think you'll be pretty happy with it if it works as well as I'd expect something it's size to work.

If you want the Bakersfield stations you'll definitely need a rotor. Here in Hanford, I get all the Fresno stations without a rotor, but in Visalia, your angle is different so you may or may not be able to get by without one. However, I would guess you'll be OK without one.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes
post #1202 of 1753
I've been tuning into the US Open coverage on CBS this weekend. I haven't been watching KGPE in a while, but the picture constantly breaks up every 2-3 minutes (audio is fine with no skipping). I'm getting a strong signal, and have verified the KGPE problem is happening on both my Samsung T165 STB tuner and my OnAir GT USB.

Anyone else experiencing these video glitches on CBS47?
post #1203 of 1753
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Originally Posted by mad62 View Post

I've been tuning into the US Open coverage on CBS this weekend. I haven't been watching KGPE in a while, but the picture constantly breaks up every 2-3 minutes (audio is fine with no skipping). I'm getting a strong signal, and have verified the KGPE problem is happening on both my Samsung T165 STB tuner and my OnAir GT USB.

Anyone else experiencing these video glitches on CBS47?

I noticed it. This happens very frequently with CBS(Comcast Ch.907) Wait until football season starts. Last year on a few occasions I had to watch the analog channel because it was so bad.
post #1204 of 1753
I was going to watch the golf on 24 today and saw in was in SD. I switched to my Starchoice service and got HD from Detroit. Why does 24 not switch to hd sometimes ?I guess it is a holiday and nobody was there to throw the switch.
post #1205 of 1753
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Originally Posted by au revoir View Post

BTW, that looks like a really nice antenna. Probably overkill for this area, it being so flat, but I think you'll be pretty happy with it if it works as well as I'd expect something it's size to work.

If you want the Bakersfield stations you'll definitely need a rotor. Here in Hanford, I get all the Fresno stations without a rotor, but in Visalia, your angle is different so you may or may not be able to get by without one. However, I would guess you'll be OK without one.

Good luck, and let us know how it goes

Thanks for the info.

Yeah, that antenna might be more than I need, but better safe than sorry, I figure. Bakersfield stations are not a necessity, just remembered how much better they came in back in Exeter in the old analog days. If memory serves, we had 2 antennas back then with a switch on the back of the TV that my dad installed to swap btwn 'em for Fresno/Bak signals.

Still weighing the options. Not unhappy w/ Comcast overall, but E* does have more HD programming/lacks the large OnDemand catalog. We'll let ya know how the switch goes if/when it happens.
post #1206 of 1753
Anybody's OTA receiver been giving them problems lately? I have one of the WalMart boxes made by Hisense and it is locking up to the point where I cannot even use it. I have tried resets and channel scans, but it keeps freezing up right after I scan for channels.

I noticed that digital channel 53 has some weird "digi" channel label and I was thinking that their PSIP info may be causing my OTA box to lock up (as happens with these units if the stations send out bad data).

Anyone else experiencing similar problems?
post #1207 of 1753
I am near to confirming that digital channel 53 is jamming up my OTA tuner. I used a rabbit ear antenna ( that was too weak to tune in digital 53) to do a channel scan. I then attached the roof antenna and then added every channel except 53 and it is working fine.
post #1208 of 1753
Two antennas:

We’ve been doing the two antenna two step for years, now. Having a remoted A/B switch on the TV antenna input makes it pretty painless to hop around and that’s the approach we’ll continue to use with digital broadcasts.

Channel 47 has always weak and that continues to be the case with their digital signal (2 – 3 bars out of 10) so I’m happy to keep the Bakersfield option. The signal usually stays locked. I’m aware we’re in a really poor location to pick up Fresno. For Bakersfield, we’re using an amped 4-bay bow tie and it usually has enough VHF gain to snag 23.1. Bakersfield is definitely easier to receive, but we’ll still replace the old bow ties with a VHF/UHF antenna.

But, man these big antennas are… big!

Jed
post #1209 of 1753
what is the cheapest plan to be able to get HD with comcast? when I call, they tell me it's about $70 since I need digital classic and the HD tuner/DVR.
post #1210 of 1753
If you just care about getting the local channels in HD and you have a box or TV with a QAM tuner, you can just get the standard package and receive those local HD channels in the clear.
post #1211 of 1753
Thanks, but I want to know if any basic cable service will work for local HD. I don't like using OTA antenna.
Comcast has
limited basic cable
enhanced cable
standard cable

will any of these get the local HD? yes I have a HD receiver/tuner attached to my Westy monitor
post #1212 of 1753
Limited Basic, had it for a long time, will give you HD locals plus a few other digital channels. This is their least expensive package, <$20.00. They will put a filter on the line but it didn't block the digital in the clear channels for me anyways.

FWIW
post #1213 of 1753
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Originally Posted by J.A. View Post

Anybody have experienced with this RadioShack antenna?

Name: 80" Boom Length, 32-Element Antenna
Model: VU-90 XR
Catalog #: 15-2152

http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=family

Trying to get all local HD OTA since I switched from Comcast to Dish.

Well, I was going to get this antenna from RadioShack, but I then decided to give the antenna that's already on the roof (from previous owner of the house) a chance.

I don't even know what brand it is, it's medium size and seem to be all rusted out. It's probably been up there for more than a couple of decades...

To my surprise, after hooking it up to my DISH receivers, every Fresno channels come in crystal clear with 80+ signal strength. So I saved a few bucks, but more importantly, I don't have to go up on the roof to install a new one.
post #1214 of 1753
Wow, free is the best deal of all!

So you are getting all the digital stations including the VHF ones like 53 (VHF channel 7) and 30.1, 30.2, and 30.3? If so, it must be a pretty decent antenna to pull in both UHF and VHF stations.

I had an old UHF antenna that was working fine except it could not pull in any of the VHF stations. So that's the only reason I got the Radio Shack antenna.
post #1215 of 1753
Yes, I get all the VHF channels also.

I'll admit, at first I didn't know jack about antenna since I had been with cable service forever. The antenna cable had two wires coming out of it and I was confused...how am I suppose to connect this to a coax cable? Heh, a few hour of research and I realized I needed a 75-to-300 ohm transformer.

Got a $5 RadioShack Indoor/Outdoor Matching Transformer (Model: 15-1140), hook it up and every channels came in crystal clear.
post #1216 of 1753
Is anyone getting the Packers and Eagles in HD on FOX Comcast 906? Mine is coming in as SD.
post #1217 of 1753
Any reason why Fox isn't broadcasting in widescreen right now? So irritating. Football kickoff Sunday and the games aren't in HD or widescreen. New season, same (local) Fox.
post #1218 of 1753
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Originally Posted by Col_Vandal View Post

Any reason why Fox isn't broadcasting in widescreen right now? So irritating. Football kickoff Sunday and the games aren't in HD or widescreen. New season, same (local) Fox.

Too bad no one picks up the phone @ KMPH on Sundays, or I would have called and complained.

Flood 'em with calls and emails tomorrow!! Hopefully, this won't happen next week.
post #1219 of 1753
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

Too bad no one picks up the phone @ KMPH on Sundays, or I would have called and complained.

Flood 'em with calls and emails tomorrow!! Hopefully, this won't happen next week.

Yeah, and tell 'em Kopi sent you.
post #1220 of 1753
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Originally Posted by mad62 View Post

I've been tuning into the US Open coverage on CBS this weekend. I haven't been watching KGPE in a while, but the picture constantly breaks up every 2-3 minutes (audio is fine with no skipping). I'm getting a strong signal, and have verified the KGPE problem is happening on both my Samsung T165 STB tuner and my OnAir GT USB.

Anyone else experiencing these video glitches on CBS47?

I get those glitches a lot on KSEE24, but I've seen them on other channels.
post #1221 of 1753
I'm watching the ND/Michigan game on Directv's HD feed of Channel 30 and the picture quality looks pretty bad. It looks kind of blurry and is not very clear. I'm not able to check the OTA feed, so I'm curious if anyone else is having the same picture quality issue on Comcast or on OTA.
post #1222 of 1753
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Originally Posted by xarxa View Post

I'm watching the ND/Michigan game on Directv's HD feed of Channel 30 and the picture quality looks pretty bad. It looks kind of blurry and is not very clear. I'm not able to check the OTA feed, so I'm curious if anyone else is having the same picture quality issue on Comcast or on OTA.


Should be the same via Comcast or OTA. The problem is surely @ the source (ABC/ESPN)

Have noticed this before, especially on HD events that ABC carries for ESPN. It's as if the image blurs for a bit whenever the video changes from the game itself to any major onscreen info. Perhaps due the other, non-game stuff being a diff resolution? Don't know.

Another likely source issue was during the Denver/Oakland game on Sunday. CBS's HD NFL was fine Sunday morning until they switched over to the AFC West in the afternoon. Thinking the issues there (both on Comcast's digital ch 907 and analog ch 7) had something to do w/ the thunderstorms happening in Denver at the time were disrupting the satellite feed.

Can't really blame the network, cable or satcos for weather issues.
post #1223 of 1753
Is it just me or is Comcast broadcasting some of the analog channels(1-99) as digital? My HK receiver will always default to Logic 7 when an analog signal is present...and will switchover to DD 2.0 when it's a digital signal.

So far I've found around 30 channels broadcasting in DD 2.0.
post #1224 of 1753
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Originally Posted by richeydog View Post

Is it just me or is Comcast broadcasting some of the analog channels(1-99) as digital? My HK receiver will always default to Logic 7 when an analog signal is present...and will switchover to DD 2.0 when it's a digital signal.

So far I've found around 30 channels broadcasting in DD 2.0.


Wondering this myself. Haven't noticed the audio bit. And the on-screen guide info doesn't show the DolbyDigital icon on 2-99 channels that I've noticed (generally the sign that a Comcast signal is digital).

Did notice not long ago that KVPT 18 shows up on both is old analog channel (ch. 8) as well as on ch. 90 (still in the analog domain, but the audio level is different--louder).

Perhaps some unannounced ADS is happening? I do recall that when HBO was still available on the 2-99 tier, the audio would change to DolbyDigital (sometimes even 5.1), just like it's SD digital counterpart in the 500s

richeydog, which channels have you found this on?

EDIT: OK...went home for lunch today and checked on the 2-99 situation. Looks like ALL channels (or at least the several I checked) are coming into the DVR as "digital". Youcan confirm this on your Comcast/Moto HDDVRs and HD cable boxes 2 ways:

via wikipedia (http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_to_.../Configuration):

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Originally Posted by wikipedia.com View Post

How To Check if Analog-Digital Simulcasting (ADS) is Enabled

Analog-Digital Simulcasting (ADS) is used by the DVR in local cable markets where ADS is available. The DCT3412, and the tiny non-DVR DCT700, having only digital tuners, always employ ADS. The DCT6208. along with the DCT64XX (all phases), and non DVR DCT models 5100, 6200 1100/1200, 22XX, and 25XX have analogue and digital tuners. In an ADS market, those models will default to their digital tuners, as ADS overrides their analogue tuners completely. Refer to the article on ADS for more information on how the technology is used in cable systems.

Method 1:


Dolby Digital logo with "double-D" symbolTune to a single-digit channel (ex: Ch. 9). These "basic cable" channels would normally be received as analog without ADS.
Press the INFO button. If the Dolby Digital double-D symbol is displayed, the channel is digital, and you have ADS.
Note: The Dolby Digital symbol may not show up on the second tuner. Use the tuner swap button to switch to Tuner 1 to check for the double-D symbol on a "basic cable" channel.

Method 2:

Tune to a single-digit channel (ex: Ch. 9). These "basic cable" channels would normally be received as analog without ADS.
Press CABLE then POWER to shut off the box.
Immediately press OK/SELECT to enter the Diagnostic Main Menu.
Press DOWN ARROW to "d06 CURRENT CHANNEL STATUS" and press OK/SELECT.
If the "Type" is "ANALOG", you do not have ADS.
If the "Type" is "DIGITAL", you may have ADS (this tuner may be tuned to a digital channel that wouldn't use ADS, check the other tuner in the next step to see if it is tuned to an analog channel).
Press DOWN ARROW to scroll to the second page showing details for Tuner 2.
If the "Type" is "ANALOG", you do not have ADS.
If the "Type" is "DIGITAL", and the "Type" of Tuner 1 was also "DIGITAL", you have ADS.
Press OK/SELECT then POWER to exit the Diagnostic Menu. The box will now be off.



Confirmed with both methods that all the 2-99 channels I checked (2, 3, 4, 6, 7, 20, 21, 31, 32, 99) are registering as DIGITAL both with the DolbyDigital logo on the info display as well the Diagnostics Main Menu.

Guess we Comcast Fresno folks are 100% digital now.

Ball is your court, Comcast. With the supposed bandwith savings of all-digital, better start filling up the availablespace with new HD channels! (and not just OnDemand selections).

What I wonder is whether those who get basic cable w/o a box are still geting analog signals and does this still suck bandwith?
post #1225 of 1753
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

What I wonder is whether those who get basic cable w/o a box are still geting analog signals and does this still suck bandwith?

I'm guessing its still sucking bandwidth.....I'm getting 2-99 on my non-boxed TV's in my garage and extra bedrooms.....and to be honest I'm not looking forward to have to pay $5.00 per box a month just to get cable in those locations (thats $25 extra a month!!)
post #1226 of 1753
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Originally Posted by jwebb1970 View Post

richeydog, which channels have you found this on?

Jwebb, here is a list of channels that I have found. Using a Motorola 6200 HD box.
---2, 3, 8, 11, 13, 15, 16, 22, 23, 28, 36, 38, 39, 41, 43, 45, 46, 48, 49, 50, 51, 53, 54, 55, 61, 63, 64, 70, 96, 97---

They certainly look better than their analog brethren. Hopefully the others will follow suit.
post #1227 of 1753
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Originally Posted by Lifted96Chevy View Post

I'm guessing its still sucking bandwidth.....I'm getting 2-99 on my non-boxed TV's in my garage and extra bedrooms.....and to be honest I'm not looking forward to have to pay $5.00 per box a month just to get cable in those locations (thats $25 extra a month!!)


Well...you have until '09 to save up, I guess!
post #1228 of 1753
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Originally Posted by richeydog View Post

Jwebb, here is a list of channels that I have found. Using a Motorola 6200 HD box.
---2, 3, 8, 11, 13, 15, 16, 22, 23, 28, 36, 38, 39, 41, 43, 45, 46, 48, 49, 50, 51, 53, 54, 55, 61, 63, 64, 70, 96, 97---

They certainly look better than their analog brethren. Hopefully the others will follow suit.

Now, I also noticed 4 (KSEE), 6 (KMPH), 31 (Comedy Central) read as digital in the Moto Diagnostic Menu, and every 2-99 channel I tuned tonow displays the DolbyDigital icon on the info.

This may mean ALL analog is now digital, and our HD boxes override analog signals when digitals are present. It could also be due to "bugs" in the Moto OS (hoping for the former, would bet on the latter).
post #1229 of 1753
I receive FOX SD and HD through D*TV. The last few days, I've noticed when I turn to the Fox HD channel, the audio and picture don't match. The sound is off like a second. The sound is fine on the SD channel. I don't have an antenna to receive OTA broadcast. Does anyone else have this problem on D*TV? Is this a D*TV issue or local broadcast issue?
post #1230 of 1753
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Originally Posted by boltsfan21 View Post

I receive FOX SD and HD through D*TV. The last few days, I've noticed when I turn to the Fox HD channel, the audio and picture don't match. The sound is off like a second. The sound is fine on the SD channel. I don't have an antenna to receive OTA broadcast. Does anyone else have this problem on D*TV? Is this a D*TV issue or local broadcast issue?

KMPH HD audio sync appeared fine last night via Comcast. However, PRISON BREAK on Monday was the last time I really watched FOXHD at any length this week, and the sync was fine then.

Could be a D* issue, or a problem btwn D* and KMPH's link. I'd try calling KMPH first and ask for the Engineering Dept. If that doesn't get you an answer, contact D*.
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