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post #931 of 1278
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Originally Posted by DrLar View Post

What OAR means BTW?

"Original Aspect Ratio", which may mean black bars top and bottom (letterboxing) for ARs wider than the 1.78:1 of high-definition television screens. Many movies are 2.35:1 or 2.40:1 or 1.88:1 in theatrical presentation (other less common formats have been used), all of which will have black bars if shown OAR. It just means showing the entirety of each frame as shot by the director.

I don't believe that this thread was created for arguing the merits of presenting films in OAR on HDTV, but rather to give people who prefer them a way of giving each other a heads-up when they catch them. If you want to read such arguments, there's a ton of that back at the beginning of the thread.
post #932 of 1278
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Originally Posted by chad473 View Post

caught the end of Ferris Bueller's Day Off on UHD last night. It was 2.35:1. I think it's being shown again later in the month but there was nothing in my guide yet.

I actually saw FBDO in the guide the other day and set it to record. when I checked it last night the opening screen actually said in big bold letters (among other things), "This film is being shown in it's theatrical release screen ratio (or something similar), with limited commercial interruptions"! DD 5.1 too!


ron
post #933 of 1278
The other change I've seen on UHD is when they do show scope films (AR 2.35), they now move their UniversalHD logo _up_ into the active area. Previously, it was low enough that most/all of it was in the black bar region, and could be cropped off on projection systems.

- Tim

P.S. Some other scope films I've seen on UHD recently were:

- Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story '93
- Earthquake '74
- All the Queen's Men '01
- I.Q. '94
- End of Days '99

In the last month, Starz-HD has had 8 OAR scope films:

- Cider House Rules, The '99
- Cars '06
- Operation: Dumbo Drop '95
- Curse of the Golden Flower '06
- Keeping Mum '05
- Neverwas '05
- Couching Tiger, Hidden Dragon '00
- Rush Hour '98

HDNet Movies has had too many to list here (probably 20+).
post #934 of 1278
One of my favorite movies is "Tombstone" which I've seen on MAXHD and SHOHD a number of times in OAR. Well tonight its on STARZHD it was shown horribly cropped. It's a Panavision 2.35:1 movie so it can't shown open matte and thus much of picture is lost.

There is really no HD channel left on Comcast that reliably shows OAR movies, and this includes OnDemand.

HD programming has regressed in the last several years, with fewer and fewer of OAR presentations on the premium channels. Unfortunately, this is partly due to a lot of clueless people who belong to this forum who got on the phone and complain that their "screen isn't filled."

I'm at the point where I'm going to cancel all my premium subscriptions and shell out for a HD DVD player.

The only saving grace is some of the great network programming being produced in HD.
post #935 of 1278
Fantastic Four is showing on FX HD in OAR of 2.35 and it looks and sounds good.The sound is out-of-synch with the image.
post #936 of 1278
Black Rain on HBO HD last night.
post #937 of 1278
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Originally Posted by VideoGrabber View Post

The other change I've seen on UHD is when they do show scope films (AR 2.35), they now move their UniversalHD logo _up_ into the active area. Previously, it was low enough that most/all of it was in the black bar region, and could be cropped off on projection systems.

- Tim

P.S. Some other scope films I've seen on UHD recently were:

- Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story '93
- Earthquake '74
- All the Queen's Men '01
- I.Q. '94
- End of Days '99

In the last month, Starz-HD has had 8 OAR scope films:

- Cider House Rules, The '99
- Cars '06
- Operation: Dumbo Drop '95
- Curse of the Golden Flower '06
- Keeping Mum '05
- Neverwas '05
- Couching Tiger, Hidden Dragon '00
- Rush Hour '98

HDNet Movies has had too many to list here (probably 20+).

How did EARTHQUAKE look? I'm sure the sound wasn't at all improved over that travesty of a mix on the DVD, but I wonder how the film looked in HD? Was it as grainy as the anamorphic DVD looks? EARTHQUAKE was a very "smooth' looking film theatrically, so I was shocked at the grain on the DVD - I'm hoping the HD doesn't look like that.
post #938 of 1278
Thread Starter 
Ghost and the Darkness on UHD: 2.35:1
post #939 of 1278
Fantastic Four on FX. Hard to believe FX is showing a movie in OAR.
post #940 of 1278
Disclord asked:
> How did EARTHQUAKE look? I'm sure the sound wasn't at all improved over that travesty of a mix on the DVD, but I wonder how the film looked in HD? Was it as grainy as the anamorphic DVD looks? EARTHQUAKE was a very "smooth' looking film theatrically, so I was shocked at the grain on the DVD - I'm hoping the HD doesn't look like that. <<br />
I'll go back and take another look, but from what I recall, the film was 'smooth' looking, with just a hint of grain. I didn't watch the whole thing, just enough to verify it was complete.

The audio on UHD is almost always "fake 5.1". I doubt this was any different.

- Tim
post #941 of 1278
TNT appears to have the OAR bug now.

They showed Titanic in its OAR.

Showtime showed Deep Impact in its OAR.
post #942 of 1278
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Originally Posted by DaveFi View Post

I wouldn't waste my time with ppv OnDemand. Almost every movie is not OAR (if that's what you're looking for).

i took a chance on DEATH PROOF and it was actually OAR, 2.35:1 on comcast on demand PPV.
post #943 of 1278
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Originally Posted by allargon View Post

TNT appears to have the OAR bug now.

They showed Titanic in its OAR.

Showtime showed Deep Impact in its OAR.

As a general rule, Showtime presents all movies being shown in HD in OAR.
post #944 of 1278
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Originally Posted by VideoGrabber View Post

The audio on UHD is almost always "fake 5.1". I doubt this was any different.

- Tim

Actually, this is no longer the case. All of the movies that have recently made it into rotation (last month or 2) are shown in proper 5.1.

Scott
post #945 of 1278
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Originally Posted by VideoGrabber View Post

Disclord asked:
> How did EARTHQUAKE look? I'm sure the sound wasn't at all improved over that travesty of a mix on the DVD, but I wonder how the film looked in HD? Was it as grainy as the anamorphic DVD looks? EARTHQUAKE was a very "smooth' looking film theatrically, so I was shocked at the grain on the DVD - I'm hoping the HD doesn't look like that. <<br />
I'll go back and take another look, but from what I recall, the film was 'smooth' looking, with just a hint of grain. I didn't watch the whole thing, just enough to verify it was complete.

The audio on UHD is almost always "fake 5.1". I doubt this was any different.

- Tim

What do you mean 'fake 5.1'?
post #946 of 1278
He means the UHD audio is almost always forced to the 5 speakers, regardless of what they're showing. It's screwed up with the exception of the newer TV shows and movies.

Fright Night OAR 2.35 - Comcast OnDemand. Fun movie, freebie too (if you don't mind putting up with the Fearnet popup crap).
post #947 of 1278
Looks to me like this classic was shown completely in OAR. Picture quality looked excellent.

Don't see any future screenings listed.
post #948 of 1278
I.Q. on UHD was OAR.
post #949 of 1278
UHD has ben offering a lot more movies in OAR lately. Dirty Harry, End of Days, Days of Thunder are three of the most recent.
post #950 of 1278
I happen to prefer OAR and it would really be nice if they would post this information next to the HD logo in the menu so viewer would know beforehand.
post #951 of 1278
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Originally Posted by JimsArcade View Post

UHD has ben offering a lot more movies in OAR lately. Dirty Harry, End of Days, Days of Thunder are three of the most recent.

By and large UHD has always shown their movies in OAR.
post #952 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Largo View Post

I.Q. on UHD was OAR.

and nice 5.1 sounds too!
post #953 of 1278
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Originally Posted by Closet Geek View Post

I happen to prefer OAR and it would really be nice if they would post this information next to the HD logo in the menu so viewer would know beforehand.

Good luck with that because for the most part broadcasters have abandoned OAR.
post #954 of 1278
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Originally Posted by scott_bernstein View Post

Looks to me like this classic was shown completely in OAR. Picture quality looked excellent.

Don't see any future screenings listed.

I've been crossing my fingers that it would be in OAR since I saw it on the schedule. Best western ever. Looked fantastic...best I've ever seen it. Cropping a Leone movie should be made unconstitutional.
post #955 of 1278
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Originally Posted by nickdawg View Post

"Forrest Gump" on ABC HD tonight. When it was on last year, it was OAR on HD, with letterbox bars. SD was 4:3 cropped.

And tonight it is in OAR, too. I wonder how many people are watching the SD feed because it fills up their whole screen.
post #956 of 1278
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Originally Posted by jpr281 View Post

And tonight it is in OAR, too. I wonder how many people are watching the SD feed because it fills up their whole screen.

Idiots saying "what the hell are these bars doing on my HDTV?"

At least you can watch it. We have the WORST ABC affiliate in the country in Cleveland. WEWS is showing the movie "Twister" in SD instead!!! What a bunch of F*****G morons!!!
post #957 of 1278
You ain't missin' much. Commercials every 10mins. Blah. Can't wait for the BD version of this one.
post #958 of 1278
I could have sworn I posted in a thread about Gladiator on Cinemax/Starz HD channel (I can't remember which channel I recorded). It is in open matte so you are seeing more than what's contained on the DVDs. Comparing the 2 there's only a very slight cropping of the right hand side of the frame and it could be due to my TivoHD overscanning or something.

larry
post #959 of 1278
The Professional on HBO HD. (no more showings in the near future)
post #960 of 1278
I almost started a thread about how awful Saturday (yesterday) was for OAR.

Cinemax showed Hot Fuzz sans bars. TNT decided that The Bourne Supremacy should be showed pan and scan with stretch-o-vision. The HD DVD for that has been out for nearly a year. I know there's a HD master. WTF?

Was Road to Perdition on ABC OAR, open matte, pan and scan or cropped?
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