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post #991 of 1278
Se7en in OAR (2.35:1) on Starz! HD.

Except for the obnoxious sunburst Starz! HD logo in the right hand corner on occasion, it looked great.
post #992 of 1278
Oceans 13, surprisingly, 2.35:1 OAR on HBO.

I recorded it this evening off TWC/HBO -- only browsed the first 15 minutes or so. I would've thought it would've been open matte Super-35.
post #993 of 1278
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Originally Posted by sheldonison View Post

Oceans 13, surprisingly, 2.35:1 OAR on HBO.

I thought I was watching the wrong channel when I saw that. I wonder how long they will keep it up for and if they'll extend it beyond the Sunday nigh premiere to all movies?
post #994 of 1278
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I thought I was watching the wrong channel when I saw that. I wonder how long they will keep it up for and if they'll extend it beyond the Sunday nigh premiere to all movies?

Star Wars III was definatlely also 2.35:1 on HBO -- and maybe some of the other Star Wars movies too. But 2.35:1 is definately the exception, not the rule.

I really dislike HBO when 2.35:1 anamorphic panavision movies are cropped to 1.78:1, like the original Die Hard, or Flags of our Fathers. But I don't mind HBO presenting open matte Super-35, for movies like "Hairspray" and "Evening". If its filmed in Super-35, then there's more vertical in the source so there was like 5% cropping required for 1.78:1 on Hairspray.
post #995 of 1278
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Originally Posted by VisionOn View Post

I thought I was watching the wrong channel when I saw that. I wonder how long they will keep it up for and if they'll extend it beyond the Sunday nigh premiere to all movies?

I suspect that Weintraub has the clout to demand that it only be shown on HD in OAR if he wanted to.

I highly doubt this is the start of a "trend" knowing how pigheaded the powers that be at HBO are.
post #996 of 1278
Ocean's 13 was 2.35:1 but it seemed the PQ was pretty bad. Most likely that's Comcast's fault since they've started putting 3 channels per QAM on the DC system.
post #997 of 1278
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Originally Posted by clifburns View Post

Ocean's 13 was 2.35:1 but it seemed the PQ was pretty bad. Most likely that's Comcast's fault since they've started putting 3 channels per QAM on the DC system.

Possibly. I thought it was excellent over TWC. It was far better than the version I saw from Xbox Marketplace.
post #998 of 1278
Looks like Braveheart yesterday on Cinemax was OAR; at least the few minutes I saw. It was being recorded on my TiVo so I can verify later whether the whole film is in OAR or whether it switches back and forth (like Alpha Dog).
post #999 of 1278
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Originally Posted by clifburns View Post

Looks like Braveheart yesterday on Cinemax was OAR; at least the few minutes I saw. It was being recorded on my TiVo so I can verify later whether the whole film is in OAR or whether it switches back and forth (like Alpha Dog).

Braveheart has been on HBO a few times and it was in OAR each time. It has been encouraging that AMC is starting to show some movies in OAR, as well.
post #1000 of 1278
Wow, I had no idea CROUCHING TIGER was shown in HD. Wish I could have that one on DVHS! The BD is nowhere in the future.
post #1001 of 1278
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Originally Posted by clifburns View Post

Ocean's 13 was 2.35:1 but it seemed the PQ was pretty bad. Most likely that's Comcast's fault since they've started putting 3 channels per QAM on the DC system.

It was absolutely beautiful off the C-Band Digicipher II feed on the showing I watched.
post #1002 of 1278
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Originally Posted by clifburns View Post

Ocean's 13 was 2.35:1 but it seemed the PQ was pretty bad. Most likely that's Comcast's fault since they've started putting 3 channels per QAM on the DC system.

yup...once my current promotion is over, I'm dropping all premium channels since they look worse than DVD quality...whats the point?
post #1003 of 1278
YOU KILL ME was shown in 2:35 on HBO. The movie stars Ben Kingsley and Tea Leoni.
post #1004 of 1278
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Originally Posted by nickdawg View Post

The Punisher on FX. I only have FX SDTV but it's being shown in the "double letterbox" format, the way 2.35:1 looks on a 4:3 TV.

According to IMDB it is 2.35:1

The PQ was REALLY good IMO
post #1005 of 1278
Last night HBO was showing the Michael Douglas movie, Black Rain in 2:35 to 1 ratio. This is movie is almost 20 years old, so I was surprised HBO would even bother to show such an old movie in its OAR.
post #1006 of 1278


General's Daughter on Sho2
post #1007 of 1278
I didn't watch, because I've watched them all and have season DVDs... but I noticed Boston Legal started showing up in HD syndication this weekend. It's an ABC show, and was picked up for syndication by a non-HD local this weekend in HD.
post #1008 of 1278
Have any of these channels explained there reasoning ??

Such as Cinemax putting Patton and Gladiator in non-OAR 16x9, while putting Ferris Bueller' Day Off in OAR letterboxed 2.35:1 ??

Usually teen movies are shot originally in 1.85:1 and are usually not the subject of cinema aficianados' attention, while Patton and Gladiator are just the sort of movies that had wide sweeping vistas that suffer from having their outside ends cut off.

I can't find any consistent principle - do they flip a coin ??
post #1009 of 1278
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Originally Posted by A_Dude View Post

Have any of these channels explained there reasoning ??

Such as Cinemax putting Patton and Gladiator in non-OAR 16x9, while putting Ferris Bueller' Day Off in OAR letterboxed 2.35:1 ??

Its not usually their choice. Most of the time they are at the mercy of both the studios and distributors.

Just for the record, Gladiator was shown open matte so a lot of people think it was a better version.
post #1010 of 1278
Guess the movie



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On ActionMax
post #1011 of 1278
On HBO Comedy: Walter Matthau as Albert Einstein in I.Q. (1994).

On Action MAX: Virginia Madsen as Princess Irulan in Dune (1984).
post #1012 of 1278
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Originally Posted by MickeyDora View Post

Just for the record, Gladiator was shown open matte so a lot of people think it was a better version.

Thanks for the reply.

1 - How do you find out what was done to achieve the aspect ratio used (in this case, open matte) ?

2 - They give endless information before the showing (ratings, "cut for time", "edited for content", DD5.1, etc.), why not give the aspect ratio information ("shown in original aspect ratio" or "shown open matter" etc.) ?
post #1013 of 1278
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Originally Posted by A_Dude View Post

1 - How do you find out what was done to achieve the aspect ratio used (in this case, open matte) ?

Some films are shot in a 4:3 format with a window for the intended theatrical presentation AR in the camera's view finder, to help the camera operator frame the scene as specified by the director. This is in anticipation of "fullscreen" DVD releases, etc. There is more picture recorded for each frame above and below what you see in the theater. For discs and television presentation, they just leave more of the picture in.

Say that it was shown in 2.35:1 AR in the theater; if shown OAR on your screen, there'd be black bars above and below the frame. If they actually shot it in another AR, they can essentially remove those black bars--nothing is lost, just more of the frame that was shot gets revealed. It's more than the director intended that you see, but that's not something that will bother most viewers (definitely not the way that showing a 16x9-shaped portion of the wider AR does).

You can see a Wikipedia article on open matte here.
post #1014 of 1278
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Originally Posted by A_Dude View Post

Thanks for the reply.

1 - How do you find out what was done to achieve the aspect ratio used (in this case, open matte) ?

2 - They give endless information before the showing (ratings, "cut for time", "edited for content", DD5.1, etc.), why not give the aspect ratio information ("shown in original aspect ratio" or "shown open matter" etc.) ?

Under IMDb.com go to "Technical Specs" and if you see the term "Super35" there is a good chance that if you see a different aspect ratio 2.35:1-to-1.78:1 then it was open matte. Sometimes they do not list the actual specs or they give the wrong details but that is rare.

For Gladiator you will see this:

Quote:


Cinematographic process
Super 35
post #1015 of 1278
That's helpful, thanks. But I'd still like to see a more specific indication in the information provided before the film - especially from Premium channels that charge a subscription fee in order to view the film in a more deluxe showing than a commercial network showing.
post #1016 of 1278
Hunt for Red October on AMCHD tonight in its OAR of 2:35
post #1017 of 1278
post #1018 of 1278
The Elephant Man was in beautiful OAR on Cinemax-HD last night. Not sure when/if it'll be shown again.
post #1019 of 1278
Se7en on Stars right now.
post #1020 of 1278
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Originally Posted by StrangeCock View Post

Heads up...looks like Once Upon a Time in the West will finally be back on CinemaxHD this Friday (6/13) at 3:40am. If you like this movie don't miss it; it looked fantastic.

FWIW, this appears to have shown up again for 12/1 at 3:35 AM on Cinemax HD.
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