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post #10111 of 10293
I wonder if the problem with 713 could be caused by Verizon 4G LTE interference from the 700MHz band. Or is that too far removed? You can order a 4G LTE filter from Radioshack if that's the case. Apparently this 4G LTE interference may be causing some interference with some other cable systems including TWC/WRAL in Raleigh.
post #10112 of 10293
Well, I hope I don't jinx it, but I've had a solid signal on 705/713 for 2 days now, the longest stretch I've seen in a while. What are you seeing now, rrainwater?
post #10113 of 10293
@tylersc,

I noticed in an older post that you live in the Mauldin area, have an antenna in the attic with a pre-amp and that you are able to receive most all of the channels. I live in the Simpsonville area near five forks but I have two of the Terk HDTVa Indoor antennas hooked up to my tv. I am able, for the most part, to get channels 4, 7 (although flaky), 16,21,29(flaky),33,40,49,and 62. However, I would like to be able to receive 13 WLOS. I'm not really interested in the channels in Charlotte. I would also like to install something in the attic due to our HOA but am a complete noob when it comes to how to the basics on how all of this fits together and how to install this stuff and what to buy. I would want to share the signal to two tvs to start, possibly three at a later time but would be happy if I could just get 13 in the living room at a minimal cost. What would you suggest?

Thanks for your time!
post #10114 of 10293
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Originally Posted by pmaljr View Post

@tylersc,

I noticed in an older post that you live in the Mauldin area, have an antenna in the attic with a pre-amp and that you are able to receive most all of the channels. I live in the Simpsonville area near five forks but I have two of the Terk HDTVa Indoor antennas hooked up to my tv. I am able, for the most part, to get channels 4, 7 (although flaky), 16,21,29(flaky),33,40,49,and 62. However, I would like to be able to receive 13 WLOS. I'm not really interested in the channels in Charlotte. I would also like to install something in the attic due to our HOA but am a complete noob when it comes to how to the basics on how all of this fits together and how to install this stuff and what to buy. I would want to share the signal to two tvs to start, possibly three at a later time but would be happy if I could just get 13 in the living room at a minimal cost. What would you suggest?

Thanks for your time!
Tyler is one of the better folks here, ESPECIALLY locally, but until he arrives ...

That Terk uses its extendable dipole for VHF; you DO have them extended, correct? Length will matter. I ask this in particular because of your 7 (real 7) and 29 (real 9) being flaky ... both are also VHF. USUALLY 29 is very strong from the peak of Paris Mountain, as are 4 (real 36) and 16 (real 16).

Aside to the HOA. If you own the outside walls (not a condo), they cannot, by federal law, restrict your installing a typical antenna (there ARE size limits, but they rarely come into play). I understand being nice though. The intimidation of those agreements (yeah, I have one too) may get the FCC further involved in the next few years.

Specific locations (particularly elevations) come in to play too; post your TVFool results; no private info is shared via the posting link they give you after the calculations.
post #10115 of 10293
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Well, I hope I don't jinx it, but I've had a solid signal on 705/713 for 2 days now, the longest stretch I've seen in a while. What are you seeing now, rrainwater?

So far so good here. But I did go through and replace a lot of old coax and an old splitter. I don't know if that removed any noise in my lines or if Charter fixed it on their end because I did it over the course of a few days.
post #10116 of 10293
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Originally Posted by pmaljr View Post

@tylersc,

I noticed in an older post that you live in the Mauldin area, have an antenna in the attic with a pre-amp and that you are able to receive most all of the channels. I live in the Simpsonville area near five forks but I have two of the Terk HDTVa Indoor antennas hooked up to my tv. I am able, for the most part, to get channels 4, 7 (although flaky), 16,21,29(flaky),33,40,49,and 62. However, I would like to be able to receive 13 WLOS. I'm not really interested in the channels in Charlotte. I would also like to install something in the attic due to our HOA but am a complete noob when it comes to how to the basics on how all of this fits together and how to install this stuff and what to buy. I would want to share the signal to two tvs to start, possibly three at a later time but would be happy if I could just get 13 in the living room at a minimal cost. What would you suggest?

Thanks for your time!
First of all, with the Terk HDTVa. Do you have the amp connected correctly? And do you have the switch turned on? And is it plugged in? Try it with the amp turned both on and off, and see if it makes a difference. But it must be plugged in. Also, have you tried moving the antenna around to find a strong signal? You may need to get a longer coax cable and extend with a barrel splice. And be sure it is pointed the right direction. You should be getting a strong signal from 4, 7, 21, 29, and 62. Only 13 from Asheville can sometimes be problematic as they have a spotty signal. But still decent with the proper set up ... So, actually an outdoor antenna would indeed be better, even in the attic. I think an Antennacraft HBU-22 or HBU-33 in the attic would be a good choice, and should work fine. And a good distribution amp to split to the 3 TVs. The PCT/Channel Master 3414 would be a good choice there. The antennas may still be available at Radioshack, although probably better pricing from online vendors such as Solid Signal. They are ideal designs for both UHF and High VHF for this market. Similar versions are Winegard 7694 or 7696 sold on Amazon, but the Antennacrafts should work fine at a lower cost. And be sure and use RG6 cable. I think Home Depot has a good selection/price on the cable, and it has the nicer connections than the RCA brand at Lowe's. One other antenna choice is the Clearstream 2V at Walmart for $99, but I think the HBU antennas would be more solid performers, especially for 13. Hope that helps.
post #10117 of 10293
I noticed WHNS FOX Carolina Channel 21 did not carry the Obama news conference, or not in its entirety. But it was carried live on WJZY FOX-46 from Charlotte, as well as all other GSP stations. I like to receive various affiliates for more choices when possible.
post #10118 of 10293
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

So far so good here. But I did go through and replace a lot of old coax and an old splitter. I don't know if that removed any noise in my lines or if Charter fixed it on their end because I did it over the course of a few days.
Thanks. I tend to think Charter fixed it on their end since cable/splitter problems would likely affect more than just a single frequency, and since I never made any changes at all. Anyway I'm glad it's finally fixed. Only problem is I now I have an extra tuner I don't need, the one I bought thinking my original had failed.
post #10119 of 10293
Thanks for all of the responses. Here is the tvfool link for my address:

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d46ae0bb99b2649

The Terk is plugged in correctly, from what I can tell, and it does a pretty good job most of the time, as long as its not windy. I have tried turning it but that hasn't helped me with getting 13 WLOS. Whether the amp is on or off, it really doesn't seem to be that much different in its performance with the other stations. Now, I am at the downhill portion of our neighborhood, so, that is probably making it worse if anything. If the weather is right, I can sometimes turn it and pick up WBTV3 in Charlotte and if I aim the Terk straight down with the rabbitt ears facing NW, in one room, I can sometimes pick up 13 for a second or two but that's it.

So, if I were to put an antenna in the attic, like a HBU-22, I would attach the CM3414 at the antenna and run the cables from there to each of the tvs?

Thanks again!
post #10120 of 10293
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Thanks. I tend to think Charter fixed it on their end since cable/splitter problems would likely affect more than just a single frequency, and since I never made any changes at all. Anyway I'm glad it's finally fixed. Only problem is I now I have an extra tuner I don't need, the one I bought thinking my original had failed.
What type of tuner did you get?
post #10121 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

What type of tuner did you get?
HD Homerun Prime to replace a Ceton InfiniTV 4. I've had other Homerun Primes in the past, and they work very well, as does my Ceton. The only drawback of the Prime is it has just 3 tuners compared to Ceton's 4. Ceton now makes a 6 tuner model. I almost never need more than 4 tuners though, so I'll stick with what I've got.
post #10122 of 10293
Speaking of Charter, I think I heard that the Soapnet channel may be going away. I guess with today's DVRs and internet streaming, there is no longer a need for a channel that shows reruns of soap operas. And there are not that many of them anymore.
post #10123 of 10293
Directv has this in the guide about Soapnet. As you can see, they are no longer maintaining guide data for the channel.

post #10124 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Speaking of Charter, I think I heard that the Soapnet channel may be going away. I guess with today's DVRs and internet streaming, there is no longer a need for a channel that shows reruns of soap operas. And there are not that many of them anymore.
G4 is going away as well. But it died from incompetent management rather than natural causes.

And just as you predicted, Charter charged me for a service call. I had to go through the whole saga again with the CSR's supervisor to get the charge reversed. What a pain.
post #10125 of 10293
I think they may have dropped those music channels also.
post #10126 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

I think they may have dropped those music channels also.
The music channels are still there but got shuffled and renamed.
post #10127 of 10293
They are now celebrating 60 years of broadcasting for WYFF-4, which began as WFBC. Once owned by Metromedia, Pulitzer, and now Hearst. Perhaps if Spencer Karter is lurking about, he can comment further. As he seems very knowledgeable of the local broadcasting in the Upstate and Carolinas region.
post #10128 of 10293
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They are now celebrating 60 years of broadcasting for WYFF-4, which began as WFBC.

 

I'm rather amazed at how efficient the ramp-up of broadcast TV in the decade following WWII was.

 

Of course, NYC and Philadelphia had stations prior to the war, having received commercial licenses in July of 1941. Chicago got its first station in 1946; Los Angeles in 1947, San Francisco and Minneapolis-St. Paul in 1948. By the mid 1950's, there were stations in many major cities (and even some smaller markets). Raleigh was a laggard, not getting its first station until 1956, a few years after Durham and seven years after Charlotte.

post #10129 of 10293
WBTV Charlotte signed on in 1949 and then others soon followed across the Carolinas.
post #10130 of 10293
I have a friend who has decided to pull the plug on Dish and go over the air plus Netflix for his TV viewing. His TV has a little age on it and is considered "HD ready". He needs to buy an External HD tuner in order to receive HD reception. I am seeking recommendations from this group for the tuner.
post #10131 of 10293
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Originally Posted by loggerhead View Post

I have a friend who has decided to pull the plug on Dish and go over the air plus Netflix for his TV viewing. His TV has a little age on it and is considered "HD ready". He needs to buy an External HD tuner in order to receive HD reception. I am seeking recommendations from this group for the tuner.
iView and Homeworx both make tuners for $40 which can also work as DVRs if you plug in an external drive. A full featured Channel Master has also just come out. I think the low end model starts around $250, but includes a hard drive. An old Tivo also works. A PC based system with an HD Homerun is the pinnacle IMO. You get a full guide, full featured DVR that can also be viewed anywhere in your home via extenders, each completely independent of another. I essentially do this with my system (but I still have cable instead of OTA). It works very well.
Edited by mdavej - 1/1/14 at 8:58pm
post #10132 of 10293
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Originally Posted by loggerhead View Post

I have a friend who has decided to pull the plug on Dish and go over the air plus Netflix for his TV viewing. His TV has a little age on it and is considered "HD ready". He needs to buy an External HD tuner in order to receive HD reception. I am seeking recommendations from this group for the tuner.
Also consider PHD-VRX from ePVision. Also sold on Amazon. Very good dual tuner HD tuner box and DVR. Very good because you can have 2 separate antenna inputs. Great tuner but a bit buggy as a DVR. Also, if you just need a good basic tuner, their PHD-208 box is very nice and has a good tuner. Nice menu interface and program info.
post #10133 of 10293
I noticed my guide for Charter in WMC stopped updating and getting errors after the new year. Turns out the "Digital Upgrade" lineup I had been using is now gone. I switched to the main Digital line up and all is well again. Just a heads up for any other WMC users out there having the same issue.
post #10134 of 10293
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I noticed my guide for Charter in WMC stopped updating and getting errors after the new year. Turns out the "Digital Upgrade" lineup I had been using is now gone. I switched to the main Digital line up and all is well again. Just a heads up for any other WMC users out there having the same issue.

That is strange. I was using the Greenville Digital Rebuild lineup and it seems it is still working and the original Digital lineup is gone. It looks like they renamed the Rebuild lineup to the main one. Perhaps I am wrong? Maybe my TiVo switched to the lineup automatically?
post #10135 of 10293
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

That is strange. I was using the Greenville Digital Rebuild lineup and it seems it is still working and the original Digital lineup is gone. It looks like they renamed the Rebuild lineup to the main one. Perhaps I am wrong? Maybe my TiVo switched to the lineup automatically?
I don't know exactly how it works, but my guide stopped at Jan 9, and the event log said lineup not found. When I went back to the original, it started working again. I do know that WMC uses Zap2it listings. Tivo probably uses something different with more seamless changes.
post #10136 of 10293
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

I don't know exactly how it works, but my guide stopped at Jan 9, and the event log said lineup not found. When I went back to the original, it started working again. I do know that WMC uses Zap2it listings. Tivo probably uses something different with more seamless changes.

Zap2it is the same listings as TiVo uses (Tribune). But perhaps the TiVo knew to switch to the other lineup. I have been checking because I knew one would be killed off soon.
post #10137 of 10293
I never hear recent reports of OTA TV reception on the campus of Furman University. Since the conversion to digital. When I was a student there, there was no cable in the dorms, so everyone used rabbit ears of some sort. And the TV lounges had a rooftop antenna. WYFF-4 was subject to ghosting, WSPA-7 came in pretty clear, and 13-WLOS was a bit snowy. WBTV-3 from Charlotte came in clear with the rabbit ears extended, and WCNC-36 and WJZY-46 came in clear with a UHF double bow tie from RadioShack. I know they now have cable in the dorms, so OTA reception may no longer be a concern. But I am not sure if they have HD cable as it may only be a standard def system. But I am curious if Charlotte reception is still possible there since the change to digital TV. And even Asheville, for that matter. You can't just wander into a dorm building anymore, and I don't know anyone who goes to school there right now.
post #10138 of 10293
It looks like the annual cable company to drop affiliate is coming to WSPA and Charter. If they don't reach an agreement by Jan 9, WSPA programming will be gone from Charter. Of course WSPA is begging users to tell Charter not to drop them. But that will make zero difference. Hopefully they work out a deal but if they don't, I think people are not going to riot in the streets like WSPA must think.
post #10139 of 10293
Multiple OTA questions here. I've investigated my tvfool report carefully ... helpful but not ... http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d5b94779460a834 fyi

I'm in Greenville, and just tried an outdoor antenna for fun indoors; I've no restrictions on an outdoor installation, but this was just for play.

I get 2 Spanish language channels after scanning, 28.1 and 28.2. I see a 28 but nowhere any mention of multiple subchannels nor a suggestion of Spanish. Am I likely getting W28DB-D? Professor Bell has a year+ old link with it mentioned, but it doesn't 100% fit what I see. Rabbitears suggests it may be a sister station with WGGS; do we have Spanish Christian broadcasting? I speak ZERO Spanish but it doesn't casually look like that. I have a computer tuner and TSReader lite, but my antenna cable won't reach the PC ... YET.

2nd question; I understand, and tvfool confirms, that WUNF and WLOS share a tower on Mt Pisgah. WUNF is 1edge and has an excellent picture whether my antenna is aimed true north or towards the mountain (30 degrees west of north). WLOS is shown line of sight, stronger by about 20 dB and with about a 20 dB better noise margin, but doesn't decode at all. Is the 1 edge bouncing over neighbors and the LOS bounding around?

It is my intention to mount an antenna in the attic (about 12 feet higher) for additional trial, and if absolutely required to get WLOS, maybe on the chimney ... but that will not be easy on this house, and will require about a 40 ft ladder with the grade. I'll probably give them up instead.

George
post #10140 of 10293
Spanish language channels? Any logos on the screen? If so, can you provide pictures?

- Trip
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