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post #10141 of 10303
Sounds like you pressed the SAP button.
post #10142 of 10303
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Sounds like you pressed the SAP button.
I don't know if you are serious or not ... let's assume so ... I'll confirm. BUT, all the rest of the channels are in English, and I've power cycled and viewed this one multiple times.

Trip, I'll try to do the picture thing tonight and post, if this site allows, some low res versions; full res will be available if you then want them ... I see it now, FCC takedown in South Carolina
post #10143 of 10303
OK ... battery dead in SLR, used cellphone ... I'm a poor photographer, this makes it look worse ...

Definitely Christian broadcasting, definitely Spanish with 28-1 in English stereo, 28-2 in English mono









I'm connected to my Hauppauge tuner and have scanned with TSReader Lite ... what would Trip like to see if Lite can do it?
post #10144 of 10303
I think 28 is a low power channel operated by WGGS-16. Often poor audio and video quality, and some sort of Spanish broadcast. I have deleted it from my channel menu.
post #10145 of 10303
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Originally Posted by gbynum View Post

OK ... battery dead in SLR, used cellphone ... I'm a poor photographer, this makes it look worse ...

Definitely Christian broadcasting, definitely Spanish with 28-1 in English stereo, 28-2 in English mono

Cool, thanks. That was plenty for me to figure out what's on.

28-1 looks to be some type of local Spanish religious channel, called "Gracia Unida." ("Grace united.") Looks like it's on Facebook, and launched last April. At the time, it was partnered with "La Fuente," TCT's religious network, which has since gone off the air.

28-2 is Aliento Vision, a Spanish family-oriented network I'm already familiar with.
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I'm connected to my Hauppauge tuner and have scanned with TSReader Lite ... what would Trip like to see if Lite can do it?

Haha, I'd love an HTML Export of channel 28 since this change-over, for starters. The way I usually ask people to run it is to open the station in question, let it settle for 10 seconds or so, then go to HTML Export from the Export menu. Check all of the boxes at the bottom of the window except for EIT and Thumbnails. Then save. Then e-mail or otherwise send it over for posting on RabbitEars. smile.gif

- Trip
post #10146 of 10303
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

It looks like the annual cable company to drop affiliate is coming to WSPA and Charter. If they don't reach an agreement by Jan 9, WSPA programming will be gone from Charter. Of course WSPA is begging users to tell Charter not to drop them. But that will make zero difference. Hopefully they work out a deal but if they don't, I think people are not going to riot in the streets like WSPA must think.
They may come to a quicker agreement than the Dish dispute. Apparently Dish is being more difficult with the broadcasters than some of the cable companies. The WSOC dispute with Charter was resolved in about one day.
post #10147 of 10303
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Originally Posted by gbynum View Post

Multiple OTA questions here. I've investigated my tvfool report carefully ... helpful but not ... http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d5b94779460a834 fyi

I'm in Greenville, and just tried an outdoor antenna for fun indoors; I've no restrictions on an outdoor installation, but this was just for play.

I get 2 Spanish language channels after scanning, 28.1 and 28.2. I see a 28 but nowhere any mention of multiple subchannels nor a suggestion of Spanish. Am I likely getting W28DB-D? Professor Bell has a year+ old link with it mentioned, but it doesn't 100% fit what I see. Rabbitears suggests it may be a sister station with WGGS; do we have Spanish Christian broadcasting? I speak ZERO Spanish but it doesn't casually look like that. I have a computer tuner and TSReader lite, but my antenna cable won't reach the PC ... YET.

2nd question; I understand, and tvfool confirms, that WUNF and WLOS share a tower on Mt Pisgah. WUNF is 1edge and has an excellent picture whether my antenna is aimed true north or towards the mountain (30 degrees west of north). WLOS is shown line of sight, stronger by about 20 dB and with about a 20 dB better noise margin, but doesn't decode at all. Is the 1 edge bouncing over neighbors and the LOS bounding around?

It is my intention to mount an antenna in the attic (about 12 feet higher) for additional trial, and if absolutely required to get WLOS, maybe on the chimney ... but that will not be easy on this house, and will require about a 40 ft ladder with the grade. I'll probably give them up instead.

George
If you place a good UHF antenna and amp outside, you may also receive Charlotte. Or even in the attic if done correctly. But, regarding WLOS, their VHF pattern is spotty in Upstate SC. But I use a pair of basic rabbit ears in the attic connected to a Kitztech 200 preamp. I get 13 at 85-90%, and WSPA (7) and SCETV (9) at 100%. Works fine. And a UHF antenna for WYFF-4, WHNS-21, and Charlotte. I also tried a CM-3410 dist amp which worked about as well. That may even be a better choice to prevent overpowering certain strong channels. But supposedly WLOS had plans to add a SC translator on Paris Mtn. But for some reason those plans have not yet materialized.
post #10148 of 10303
These continuous weather scrolls on all the local GSP/AVL channels are obnoxious, annoying, and unnecessary. Sure there is a dangerous cold snap. But the world is not ending. The warnings do not need to be permanently placed on the screen all day. Periodic scrolls are enough. This is why it is nice to have an antenna for the Charlotte channels as an alternative.
post #10149 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

These continuous weather scrolls on all the local GSP/AVL channels are obnoxious, annoying, and unnecessary. Sure there is a dangerous cold snap. But the world is not ending. The warnings do not need to be permanently placed on the screen all day. Periodic scrolls are enough. This is why it is nice to have an antenna for the Charlotte channels as an alternative.

Don't have the antenna but sure agree about the weather scrolls. They do it all the time, storms, cold and excuse they can find. PITA.
post #10150 of 10303
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Originally Posted by harrys11 View Post

Don't have the antenna but sure agree about the weather scrolls. They do it all the time, storms, cold and excuse they can find. PITA.
Yes indeed. Not necessary to be permanently placed on the screen all day. Periodic warnings are enough unless a tornado is approaching. And not some far removed tornado way down in Georgia somewhere.
post #10151 of 10303
WSPA just announced at midnight that they reached a deal with Charter as the deadline hit to keep their programming on air. What a shocker. They spend all this time and energy trying to get customers involved in their spat with Charter but at the end of the day it was all semantics and both sides magically agree at the last second.
post #10152 of 10303
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

WSPA just announced at midnight that they reached a deal with Charter as the deadline hit to keep their programming on air. What a shocker. They spend all this time and energy trying to get customers involved in their spat with Charter but at the end of the day it was all semantics and both sides magically agree at the last second.
Yes, Charter has resolved their disputes more easily than Dish.
post #10153 of 10303
So nobody is using an OTA antenna near Furman University? I guess I will have to find time to venture out that way. But you can't exactly just walk into a dorm and wander around and look for TV antennas. Alumnus or not, they are now very secure buildings, unlike years past. But they used to have a big antenna on top of the student center, and it pulled in all local channels as well as Charlotte. Before digital. I don't think they have an antenna up there anymore since they added cable. And I wonder if the cable is even in HD. I know at some of the hospitals here the cable is standard def digital only. Not sure about the distribution system at Furman.
post #10154 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

I don't think they have an antenna up there anymore since they added cable. And I wonder if the cable is even in HD. I know at some of the hospitals here the cable is standard def digital only. Not sure about the distribution system at Furman.

They offer some basic HD channels: http://www2.furman.edu/sites/ITS/Services/Pages/CableTV.aspx#channels
post #10155 of 10303
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

They offer some basic HD channels: http://www2.furman.edu/sites/ITS/Services/Pages/CableTV.aspx#channels
It sounds like their TV service is provided by DirecTV. I guess this may be the case for the local channels as well. But it would be nice if they could place an antenna on the roof of some of the student buildings and integrate those channels into the system. If I was a student there now I would also want to be able to tune in the Charlotte channels. In fact, when I was a student there back in the late 80's I worked in the old student center. And climbed on the roof and adjusted the antenna so it would also receive Charlotte. Also in the dorm lounges. But I would guess with an indoor antenna you may be able to pick up some of the Charlotte channels in some of the dorm rooms, depending upon the side of the building. Perhaps an HDTVa, Clearstream 2, or 4-bay would work with an amp. I got good reception back then with analog, so hopefully you can with digital also. But I would be curious, as digital can be a bit different. I may try the Furman zip in TV Fool and see what the predicted results may be. But I can receive the Charlotte radio stations in the car on the Furman campus.
post #10156 of 10303
I am disappointed that WYFF-4 has dropped the Andy Griffith Show. One of the all time classics. They are now showing Entertainment Tonight on Saturday evenings and Access Hollywood during the noon hour weekdays. I don't really care for all of the Hollywood gossip, and they already run ET Monday through Friday at 7pm. They should reconsider and bring back Andy. And Barney, Aunt Bee, Opie, Gomer and Goober. And don't forget Floyd and Ernest T. Bass. And all the good folks of Mayberry.
post #10157 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

I am disappointed that WYFF-4 has dropped the Andy Griffith Show. One of the all time classics. They are now showing Entertainment Tonight on Saturday evenings and Access Hollywood during the noon hour weekdays. I don't really care for all of the Hollywood gossip, and they already run ET Monday through Friday at 7pm. They should reconsider and bring back Andy. And Barney, Aunt Bee, Opie, Gomer and Goober. And don't forget Floyd and Ernest T. Bass. And all the good folks of Mayberry.

Channel 62 picked up the rights and shows it at 7pm every night. They ran very heavy promotion for it the week leading up to its launch.
post #10158 of 10303
WSPA-7 has also been promoting "The Andy Griffith" show on for its sister station WYCW. Can't believe TylerSC missed this!
post #10159 of 10303
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Originally Posted by eacalhoun View Post

WSPA-7 has also been promoting "The Andy Griffith" show on for its sister station WYCW. Can't believe TylerSC missed this!
Well I have been mostly watching WYFF, WBTV, and WCNC as of late. So I guess that's how I missed it. But that is good news to hear. I know in Charlotte, it recently moved from WAXN to WCCB. Contracts must have recently changed. And the Andy versions I have seen when WCCB comes in look like they may have been digitally remastered recently, I am not sure. But pic quality was good.
post #10160 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Well I have been mostly watching WYFF, WBTV, and WCNC as of late. So I guess that's how I missed it. But that is good news to hear. I know in Charlotte, it recently moved from WAXN to WCCB. Contracts must have recently changed. And the Andy versions I have seen when WCCB comes in look like they may have been digitally remastered recently, I am not sure. But pic quality was good.

A few years ago they did remaster the series in HD for the DVD release, and I believe all new stations that request Library sets from CBS/Viacom get copies dubbed off those HD masters. A Blu-Ray release of it and I Love Lucy are scheduled to start season by season this March or April? The exact month escapes me.
post #10161 of 10303
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

28-1 looks to be some type of local Spanish religious channel, called "Gracia Unida." ("Grace united.") Looks like it's on Facebook, and launched last April. At the time, it was partnered with "La Fuente," TCT's religious network, which has since gone off the air.

28-2 is Aliento Vision, a Spanish family-oriented network I'm already familiar with.

One of gbynum's screenshots shows the callsign W28DB-D, so that hasn't changed, at least. The FCC database still lists the owners as Carolina Christian Broadcasting.

Before they added the second subchannel, it seemed like most times of day they showed infomercials, and in primetime they showed various English-language religious programs. Mostly 4:3 material stretched to 16:9. tongue.gif Generally a very "soft" picture. Sometimes it was stuck on some kind of Linux desktop, presumably for the computer that feeds video to their broadcast system.

For some reason, my TiVo Premiere can't lock onto the signal now, but I can see it on my Zenith CECB.

And yeah, my pages can stand some updating. Especially the Charlotte page. redface.gif
post #10162 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

And the Andy versions I have seen when WCCB comes in look like they may have been digitally remastered recently, I am not sure. But pic quality was good.

Andy was delivered to us in SD via Betacam SP and dubbed to XdCamHd discs in 720p for our Library.

And Hello to the Perfessor! Good to see you again! smile.gif
Edited by bdfox18doe - 1/13/14 at 2:47pm
post #10163 of 10303
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

Andy was delivered to us in SD via Betacam SP and dubbed to XdCamHd discs in 720p for our Library.

And Hello to the Perfessor! Good to see you again! smile.gif

Interesting... Did it still require a separate disc for every episode, or does that format allow for consolidation? And can you broadcast from the XDCam-HD discs or do you have to ingest it into a server first?
post #10164 of 10303
Episodes are put on individual discs for ease of use and easier to keep up with. Depends on when they air, they can air off disc or are transferred to server (Omneon Spectrum) for air dependent upon several variables.
post #10165 of 10303
It comes on saturdays on WSPA Channel 7 at 7pm so i guess WYFF 4 Contract with CBS/Viacom for ANDY Must Expired when WYCW started airing it. as WYFF used to air it weekdays at 12:30pm and saturdays at 7pm-8pm

also weather channel been drop by Directv replace by WeatherNation

and there is two new Weather channels coming later this year

Accuweather channel

and

Network weather channel that is started by some of the former weatherchannel employees networkweathercompany.com
post #10166 of 10303
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

Episodes are put on individual discs for ease of use and easier to keep up with. Depends on when they air, they can air off disc or are transferred to server (Omneon Spectrum) for air dependent upon several variables.

Great insight... thanks for sharing. I caught Andy Griffith on 62 tonight, and they must have picked up WYFF's "library set" or another older version. The quality of the episode they aired was clearly sub par compared to WCCB's feed. Reminds me of WFMY in Greensboro. Until a few years ago when the Closed Captioning requirements became stricter they use to air TAGS off a set of tapes they made in house from old 16mm reels back in the 1980's. It was great because they showed parts Viacom had cut out including the epilogues which was unheard of then.

For years now I've been a member of many of the active Andy Griffith & I Love Lucy internet mailing lists and discussion boards. We just recently had a discussion about syndication in the modern era on one of them.

If you ever get an opportunity please snap a picture of one of these "discs" and post it... I'm sure my friends on the Mayberry discussion would love to hear this story. There has already been some discussion about WCCB airing the show now. I think the group is heavily dominated by NC/SC residents. I still have an old u-matic tape of one of the episodes that was given to me by a friend at WYFF years ago.

Keep up the good work, since I got my antenna up WCCB is one of my "most watched" stations. I love your local programming...
post #10167 of 10303
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post


also weather channel been drop by Directv replace by WeatherNation

WeatherNation didn't technically replace it since it already existed. But The Weather Channel's contract ran out with Directv at the end of the year (and they extended it a few weeks for negotiations). WeatherNation is pretty terrible from what I've heard so I don't think it will be replacing TWC any time soon.
post #10168 of 10303
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Originally Posted by cpalmer2k View Post


If you ever get an opportunity please snap a picture of one of these "discs" and post it...

Keep up the good work, since I got my antenna up WCCB is one of my "most watched" stations. I love your local programming...

Here ya go..: http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-PFD23A%2F3/

And thanks for the kind words, we do appreciate them!
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

WeatherNation didn't technically replace it since it already existed. But The Weather Channel's contract ran out with Directv at the end of the year (and they extended it a few weeks for negotiations). WeatherNation is pretty terrible from what I've heard so I don't think it will be replacing TWC any time soon.

I read on some of the other forums where Directv move it into the weather channel channel slot. after the contract expired but i don't have dIrectv any more as i switched to charter back in December.so on charter i get the full Local on 8s from weather channel's IntelliStar computer at charter.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelliStar I remember when i used to have charter years ago before i switch to directv they used to have the weather channel weather scan channel.
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Originally Posted by rrainwater View Post

WeatherNation didn't technically replace it since it already existed. But The Weather Channel's contract ran out with Directv at the end of the year (and they extended it a few weeks for negotiations). WeatherNation is pretty terrible from what I've heard so I don't think it will be replacing TWC any time soon.

here is a online feed of weathernation http://www.weathernationtv.com/
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