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post #10201 of 10293
Have you try contact them through their chat http://www.myaccount.charter.com/Visitors/chatlive.aspx
post #10202 of 10293
I have not personally contacted Charter regarding the problem with the local HD channels. Because I have an antenna and no reception problems there. And my mother prefers the familiarity and convenience of tuning to 4.1 and 7.1 rather than 704, 707, etc. She doesn't remember those "strange numbers" and has issues with the TiVo remote. And I often have to remind her when she presses 7 on the remote that she needs to go up one channel to 7.1 for the better picture, because otherwise she will get the SD version. It is sometimes frustrating because I will see her watching CBS on cable channel 7 with black bars on the top and bottom of an SD picture. When she has a choice of CBS-HD on 3.1, 7.1, and 707. She is just accustomed to "regular cable" or "regular TV." Which basically means she is still used to analog TV and has not really adjusted to digital. Other than she does seem to now enjoy the "pretty picture." When she remembers how to tune to it.
post #10203 of 10293
I'll try the chat option again. I've never gotten very far that way before.

I did just hook up an old analog TV, and something is definitely on channels 2, 3, and 4, not a picture, but no white noise either, like on other channels. Is there some kind of filter or trap that would block just the analog part?
post #10204 of 10293
Just checked and today all of the HD locals are fine on Charter. But will be on the lookout in case the interference returns.
post #10205 of 10293
Thanks to all. I tried chat, and after wasting an hour resetting boxes, convinced them to escalate the issue. I'm not holding my breath, but maybe something will come of it.
post #10206 of 10293
has anybody got the charter phone also and check to see if the charter caller id app on tv work through your cable box

i have charter phone also and i not able get the charter phone caller id on tv work it keep coming up service temporary unavailable.
post #10207 of 10293
I picked up a Logitech Harmony Touch remote last week, and while programming it last night I noticed that there are a slew of FS South and FS SportsSouth subchannels that I had never paid any attention to before. I started to explore them today and here is what I've discovered..

On the FS Carolinas feed today I was able to watch the Carolina Hurricanes game...

On the FS South Plus and FS SportSouth Plus Feeds tonight I can get the Bobcats game...

But I also get the Memphis Grizzlies game (on another PLUS feed) and the Hawks game...

Is this normal? I thought the Hawks & Grizzlies games should be blacked out in our area.... Ssssshhh I'm not complaining though.
post #10208 of 10293
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Originally Posted by cpalmer2k View Post

I picked up a Logitech Harmony Touch remote last week, and while programming it last night I noticed that there are a slew of FS South and FS SportsSouth subchannels that I had never paid any attention to before. I started to explore them today and here is what I've discovered..

On the FS Carolinas feed today I was able to watch the Carolina Hurricanes game...

On the FS South Plus and FS SportSouth Plus Feeds tonight I can get the Bobcats game...

But I also get the Memphis Grizzlies game (on another PLUS feed) and the Hawks game...

Is this normal? I thought the Hawks & Grizzlies games should be blacked out in our area.... Ssssshhh I'm not complaining though.

was this on cable or satellite ? i remember when i was on Directv they had couple extra FS south alt channels.
post #10209 of 10293
The NBA League Pass is in free preview this week, that's why all the games are coming through.

Directv FSSouth and SportSouth channels:

644-1 FS Tennessee HD (Predators, Reds)
645-1 FS Carolinas HD (most Hurricanes games)
646 FS South HD main feed (Braves, Predators and Hurricanes replays)
647-1 FSSouth+ HD (SportSouth mirror since not everyone in NC gets SPSO as a local RSN)
648-1 FSSouth2 HD (mostly IMG Kentucky Wildcats Network material)
649 SportSouth HD main feed (Hawks, some Braves games)
650-1 SportSouth+ HD (Bobcats alternate, some Hurricanes games, both mirrored to 647-1. Here are also select Reds games)
651-1 SportSouth+ HD (Grizzlies alternate, select Cardinals games)
652-1 shared HD RSN alternate

(All Reds games are available on 661/661-1 FSCin with the Sportspack, at least they are here.)

Time Warner mushes this into a disastrous two-channel mess, 1508 and 1510 I believe locally in NC. I don't know how other providers deal with it. Splicing alternates over a main feed never leads to anything good, in my opinion.
post #10210 of 10293
Sigh... Another night of prime time with constant weather warnings for something 12+ hours away


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post #10211 of 10293
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Sigh... Another night of prime time with constant weather warnings for something 12+ hours away...Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

You do understand that without Tv weather mankind would cease to exist? tongue.gif
post #10212 of 10293
I understand some are necessary... But the GSP stations are the worst...

None of the Charlotte stations are running constant overlays. WYFF is taking up the bottom of the screen, WLOS is their usual annoying map graphic, at least WSPA is only words this time.

Two weeks ago NYC got 13 inches of snow and even their locals restricted crawls & overlays to scheduled news broadcasts or commercial breaks. Prime time was clear there.

There has to be some middle ground.. I'm about to shift all my DVR recordings to my secondary feeds
post #10213 of 10293
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Originally Posted by cpalmer2k View Post

I understand some are necessary... But the GSP stations are the worst...

None of the Charlotte stations are running constant overlays. WYFF is taking up the bottom of the screen, WLOS is their usual annoying map graphic, at least WSPA is only words this time.

Two weeks ago NYC got 13 inches of snow and even their locals restricted crawls & overlays to scheduled news broadcasts or commercial breaks. Prime time was clear there.

There has to be some middle ground.. I'm about to shift all my DVR recordings to my secondary feeds
I absolutely agree. The Charlotte stations present periodic scrolls, unlike GSP stations which keep them permanently placed on the screen. And it distorts the picture on WYFF-4. This is unnecessary and annoying. I definitely switch to Charlotte when this is going on. And WBTV does the best job, as their scrolls are minimally invasive and discreet.
post #10214 of 10293
The Greensboro channels have HUGE tickers constantly on the screen. I can't stand watching distorted pictures. The Raleigh stations seem to have smaller, more logical sized tickers, but still distort the picture a little. Why do people think this is okay? WXII has a ticker that is 3 layers of type tall!

This is why we should be able to have national feeds of channels, although they'd have stupid tickers when NY/LA were having flurries or sprinkles.
Edited by ejb1980 - 1/28/14 at 8:45am
post #10215 of 10293
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This is why we should be able to have national feeds of channels, although they'd have stupid tickers when NY/LA were having flurries or sprinkles.

Belive it or not they don't. I get the NY National channels because of grandfathering from long, long ago.... recently during their 13+ inch blizzard the only scrolls or weather warnings I saw were during their local news programming and the national morning shows. None of them ran any scrolls during prime time, they would use commercial breaks to update but the shows were uninterrupted.
post #10216 of 10293
Good to know. I used to have them with Dish over 10 years ago and I didn't recall all the tickers. I dont' remember it on my locals then, either, come to think of it. Just during the local news, which is when it should be on. There better be no tickers on during the Super Bowl.
post #10217 of 10293
The snow brought with it some weird atmospheric conditions... this morning I woke up to find the AM21N on my Genie had picked up WHKY, WGGS (which had always eluded it, despite being picked up by my TV's tuner), UNC TV 17, and WTVI at some point overnight... along with PBS stations from Columbia and Augusta, GA... The only one still coming in now is 16
post #10218 of 10293
WYFF-4 has delayed Kelly and Michael to 10am in order to air the live broadcast of the 3rd hour of the Today Show at 9am. Probably because of Olympics coverage. The 4th hour of Today with Kathie Lee and Hoda is not shown except for the overnight rerun around 2am. But KLG and Hoda is seen live at 10am on WCNC from Charlotte.
post #10219 of 10293
Has anybody else notice on charter channel 196 Metv on wspa 7.2 have Black bar at top and bottom. no longer showing in SD
post #10220 of 10293
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

Has anybody else notice on charter channel 196 Metv on wspa 7.2 have Black bar at top and bottom. no longer showing in SD
The video format is now 4x3 SD on 7.2 from the OTA antenna. No more fill up the full screen; now with black bars on both sides.
post #10221 of 10293
The Charlotte ME TV affiliate has been 16:9 with the classic programs 4:3 pillar boxed for some time now. Guess WSPA is finally switching over as well


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post #10222 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

The video format is now 4x3 SD on 7.2 from the OTA antenna. No more fill up the full screen; now with black bars on both sides.

This is how ALL SD should be broadcast. WGHP 8-2 and WFMY 2-2 are that way here. It's nice because it makes it much more difficult for people to distort the image.
post #10223 of 10293
WJZY 46.2 still runs Antenna TV with the full screen zoomed in.
post #10224 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

WJZY 46.2 still runs Antenna TV with the full screen zoomed in.

And that is perfectly fine. A screen is meant to be filled.

If a stretched image looks a bit shorter and a bit chunkier than one might remember, what's wrong with that?

The viewers themselves might be shorter and chunkier than they once were!

 

 

Do you want to deprive an octogenarian who was born during the Great Depression of the joy of seeing a full-screen digital image?

 

Remember, some of those viewers are old enough to remember when a TV set looked like this:

 

http://www.earlytelevision.org/american_postwar.html#sets

post #10225 of 10293
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

The viewers themselves might be shorter and chunkier than they once were!

I beg your pardon?...I strongly resemble that remark...tongue.gif
post #10226 of 10293
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Originally Posted by veedon View Post

And that is perfectly fine. A screen is meant to be filled.
If a stretched image looks a bit shorter and a bit chunkier than one might remember, what's wrong with that?
The viewers themselves might be shorter and chunkier than they once were!


Do you want to deprive an octogenarian who was born during the Great Depression of the joy of seeing a full-screen digital image?

Remember, some of those viewers are old enough to remember when a TV set looked like this:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/american_postwar.html#sets

What's wrong with it is that it's wrong!!! How can you stand to watch a distorted image?? I just don't get it!
post #10227 of 10293
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by veedon View Post

And that is perfectly fine. A screen is meant to be filled.
If a stretched image looks a bit shorter and a bit chunkier than one might remember, what's wrong with that?
The viewers themselves might be shorter and chunkier than they once were!


Do you want to deprive an octogenarian who was born during the Great Depression of the joy of seeing a full-screen digital image?

Remember, some of those viewers are old enough to remember when a TV set looked like this:

http://www.earlytelevision.org/american_postwar.html#sets

What's wrong with it is that it's wrong!!! How can you stand to watch a distorted image?? I just don't get it!

 

It's just a matter of personal preference, I guess.

Part of it is that I sit a bit further from the TV set than a lot of people do, so I tend to set the TV set to 16:9 and just live with any distortion on the purely standard definition subchannels. However, if I am watching a channel that is set up for high definition, then if it happens to be showing a standard def program, my TV displays it as 4:3 with the pillars on the right and the left, despite the 16:9 setting.

 

I really like high def, but if the content of the programming isn't good, then I would rather watch a good program in SD than a bad one in HD.

 

We've discussed this a bit in other threads. It seems that not all standard def is created equal in terms of how distorted it looks when it is stretched to 16:9 fullscreen. When I watch Me-TV on WRAZ in Raleigh, the stretching of many old shows is not that noticeable. But when I flip between the two subchannels of WTVD that show LiveWell in high def and in standard def, I can clearly see that the stretched SD image on 11-3 makes people look pudgier than they look on the 11-2 high def. But, then again, I never watch 11-3 for any length of time. Why bother watching a SD broadcast when the very same program is available in high def?

post #10228 of 10293
I wish WTVD-3 would become something else or go away, it's a waste! A stretched out picture is the first thing I notice at a bar or restaurant. It just ruins it for me to see the image distorted.

BTW, your TV isn't adding the bars on HD, it's being broadcast that way. Some channels stretch it and broadcast it that way (Turner channels) others write obnoxious crap in the pillars (ESPN, FOX channels), while those that do it right (IMO), put all-black bars. Your TV will had bars to SD, if you set it that way. My Samsung TV will add the bars to ALL SD while my LG TV is smart enough to display SD content in 16:9 if the broadcaster flags it properly called "set by program" mode.
post #10229 of 10293
Well WSPA 7.2 is now back to the full screen zoomed in picture for Me TV. I guess they figure more folks like the distorted image as long as it fills up the screen. But I think it is best in the original format on WCCB. Afterall there is a zoom button on the remote if you choose to alter the picture yourself.
post #10230 of 10293
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Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post

I wish WTVD-3 would become something else or go away, it's a waste! ...

BTW, your TV isn't adding the bars on HD, it's being broadcast that way. Some channels stretch it and broadcast it that way (Turner channels) others write obnoxious crap in the pillars (ESPN, FOX channels), while those that do it right (IMO), put all-black bars. Your TV will had bars to SD, if you set it that way. My Samsung TV will add the bars to ALL SD while my LG TV is smart enough to display SD content in 16:9 if the broadcaster flags it properly called "set by program" mode.

 

I agree with you about WTVD-3, but I read somewhere that the reason the ABC O&O's keep that SD feed going is to make it easier to supply a LiveWell feed to cable systems that might agree to carry the program but don't want to commit to giving it as much bandwidth as a HD feed would require. I don't know enough about cable systems to know whether that is an accurate explanation.

 

My TV is LG, and I have played with all of the modes (16:9, 4:3, Zoom, Set by Program, etc.), and I finally just decided to go with 16:9 for simplicity. I don't like to have to fiddle with the settings all the time. The Set by Program mode was often the worst performing mode. It would sometimes give me that awful "postage stamp" effect where a commercial would appear with black bars around ALL FOUR sides of the image.

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