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post #8731 of 10293
I haven't been on this thread since last year. Haven't tried using my OTA since last football season. So, with football underway again, I've tried to fire it up.

I'm hoping someone can save me pages and pages of research. What's the latest happenings with WLOS? Last year I was getting it with about 75% reliability. I've spent four hours this morning moving antenna, etc. and haven't gotten not a bit of it???

Anything change since last year? Was hoping to catch Clemson vs. Auburn today.

I'm using a CM4228 with no booster. I wonder if I should spring for the booster? worth a shot I guess.

Thanks.
post #8732 of 10293
I's still there on 13VHF. Have you tried rescanning?
post #8733 of 10293
After I moved the mast to a dozen spots, etc. My wife went out and in 2 minutes picked it up! So, I'm not touching anything until the game is over! I've got it on 13-1 would there be any need to rescan?
post #8734 of 10293
13-WLOS is HiVHF and can have a problematic signal. The 4228 is optimized for UHF and may or may not receive 13 depending upon location. You may have better results by adding a dedicated 7-13 VHF antenna and perhaps a preamp. And if you're in Spartanburg or Cherokee counties, you should be able to pick up WSOC 9.1 or 9.5 which is ABC from Charlotte. I receive them at my location in Mauldin but I worked strategically to optimize my set up to receive that station, as I am falling off the cliff for their reception area. The other Charlotte signals such as CBS and NBC are easier to receive. But if you're in Greenville or Anderson areas, 13 is really your only choice for ABC, so I would definitely consider adding a VHF antenna of some sort.
post #8735 of 10293
Thanks tylerSC. I'm just North of Travelers Rest. Closer to WLOS, but, I might be in the shadow of the mountains.

Thanks for the tip on VHF antenna. I'll start the research and add something.
post #8736 of 10293
Another data point for you Tony: I also have a 4228(HD) mounted in my attic and I receive WLOS nearly perfect (just an occasional drop-out). I am in Greer about 2 miles north of Hwy 29 near Hwy 14.
post #8737 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tony123 View Post
I'm just North of Travelers Rest. Closer to WLOS, but, I might be in the shadow of the mountains.
You probably are in the shadow of the mountains. See this TVFool reception map. Zoom in and scroll a bit to locate your area.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...los%26type%3dD

Your reception of WLOS is likely to be similar to what I get down here in Clinton, where I have line-of-sight to Mt. Pisgah. I use a Winegard YA-1713 antenna for VHF, and a pre-amp. WLOS comes in pretty reliably most of the time, except that one of my neighbors has apparently recently acquired some device that sometimes generates bursts of interference 4 seconds apart for a while during the early evening. It messes up all my VHF channels: WLOS, WSPA and WNTV (SCETV) out of Greenville, and WIS and WOLO out of Columbia.
post #8738 of 10293
Not a question for posters, mainly a comment just in case WGGS personnel read this. Your channel 16.2 programming is fantastic. Many of us enjoy the old programming from the 50s and 60s. BUT can you please get it right? Almost a year later of watching mouths not sinc with the audio is getting old. Find out what the other TV stations are doing and learn from them. PLEASE
post #8739 of 10293
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Originally Posted by rid29651 View Post

Not a question for posters, mainly a comment just in case WGGS personnel read this. Your channel 16.2 programming is fantastic. Many of us enjoy the old programming from the 50s and 60s. BUT can you please get it right? Almost a year later of watching mouths not sinc with the audio is getting old. Find out what the other TV stations are doing and learn from them. PLEASE


I Sent Mr. Thompson the Program Dir for sixteen two an email with this thread and he just email me back and said he will get that Fixed.
post #8740 of 10293
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Originally Posted by jtbell View Post

You probably are in the shadow of the mountains. See this TVFool reception map. Zoom in and scroll a bit to locate your area.

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...los%26type%3dD

Your reception of WLOS is likely to be similar to what I get down here in Clinton, where I have line-of-sight to Mt. Pisgah. I use a Winegard YA-1713 antenna for VHF, and a pre-amp. WLOS comes in pretty reliably most of the time, except that one of my neighbors has apparently recently acquired some device that sometimes generates bursts of interference 4 seconds apart for a while during the early evening. It messes up all my VHF channels: WLOS, WSPA and WNTV (SCETV) out of Greenville, and WIS and WOLO out of Columbia.

I'm willing to order a VHF antenna, as well as a preamp. I can tell it wouldn't take much to give me trouble free reception, so I bet the preamp give me the edge I need. Thanks everyone with the help last week.
post #8741 of 10293
I doubt you'll need a preamp with your 4228 & a vhf antenna for your area. Just make sure you get a uvsj separator-combiner. It's what you need to separate the vhf/uhf & combine them to one coax. A regular garden variety splitter won't work.
post #8742 of 10293
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

I Sent Mr. Thompson the Program Dir for sixteen two an email with this thread and he just email me back and said he will get that Fixed.

I hope you have better luck than me. I have sent multiple emails over the months regarding this subject, the reply to the majority of them states it's the networks fault they get the feed from. Even the infomercials and commercials have this problem. Thanks for letting me know.
post #8743 of 10293
METV Programming is now on WSPA 7.2 as of 5:00am this morning.
post #8744 of 10293
Does anyone know the actual reason why the SD simulcast of WLOS was dropped from WMYA 40.2? I just recently moved back home to Blowing Rock, NC and I have received WMYA on UHF 14 a few times (107 miles away with an indoor antenna!). I can't receive WLOS on VHF 13 at all, although I can get WSPA on VHF 7 regularly. I have been looking through the forum and the only explanation I have found was it was stopped due to legal restrictions:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post19166328

I know TheCoolTV was added to 40.2 after that, followed by The Country Network on 40.3. But unless I'm mistaken, WLOS has a pointless SD simulcast of their main channel on 13.3. It seems like it would have made more sense to put TheCoolTV or The Country Network on 13.3 so WMYA could continue the WLOS simulcast on 40.2. If it really was stopped due to legal restrictions, why is WMYA still being simulcast on 13.2?
post #8745 of 10293
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

METV Programming is now on WSPA 7.2 as of 5:00am this morning.

I'm watching Me-TV on WSPA now, but I have a few gripes:

1. The program guide is still showing RTV's schedule. I'm sure that will be fixed soon, so it's not much of a gripe.

2. The aspect ratio is still incorrect. I know it can be changed to the correct one with ease, but it seems unnecessary. Then again, WCCB's Me-TV feed on Charter cable in Boone has had the same incorrect aspect ratio since it launched (but I have QAM and its correct on there)!

3. The closing credits of programs have been cutting off early or completely. WSPA has been airing promos for the main channel right after that, followed by a Me-TV promo or station ID. But, Me-TV may have started cutting them off early so stations could show promos if they wanted to. I know the same thing has happened to the credits on WCCB's Me-TV feed as well, but I don't remember seeing station promos at the end.

This gripe is about Me-TV itself and not WSPA, so I won't number it. I understand that Me-TV has to allow extra time for commercials, but I hate how they speed up the programs to do it. I don't want them to remove scenes from the programs either, but I would probably rather have that then what they are doing. If they would at least play the entire program at the same speed instead of changing it every few minutes, it may not be as bad!

I already posted this in the Charlotte OTA forum, but it probably needs to be posted here for something to possibly be done about it.
post #8746 of 10293
WSPA is airing MeTV in widescreen 16x9 format with the images somewhat stretched and zoomed in. WCCB is airing it in 4x3 format with the black bars on the left and right.
post #8747 of 10293
Why would WSPA or WLOS use VHF? Why? Look at this thread and there are numerous issues with VHF. You would think they would want the most amount of people to watch as they can. I have no issues with UHF but VHF is always an issue. Why would they just not switch?
post #8748 of 10293
Likely a situation like WTVD-11/Durham has. They elected to go VHF before everyone knew there would be problems, but now they are stuck because there is no open spectrum in the UHF band.
post #8749 of 10293
I would love to have MEtv but it just wont work for me in Piedmont of all places. I can get WLOS sometimes but its weak. I guess they are stuck with VHF but im stuck not watching it.
post #8750 of 10293
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Originally Posted by mcy919 View Post

Does anyone know the actual reason why the SD simulcast of WLOS was dropped from WMYA 40.2? I just recently moved back home to Blowing Rock, NC and I have received WMYA on UHF 14 a few times (107 miles away with an indoor antenna!). I can't receive WLOS on VHF 13 at all, although I can get WSPA on VHF 7 regularly. I have been looking through the forum and the only explanation I have found was it was stopped due to legal restrictions:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...8#post19166328

I know TheCoolTV was added to 40.2 after that, followed by The Country Network on 40.3. But unless I'm mistaken, WLOS has a pointless SD simulcast of their main channel on 13.3. It seems like it would have made more sense to put TheCoolTV or The Country Network on 13.3 so WMYA could continue the WLOS simulcast on 40.2. If it really was stopped due to legal restrictions, why is WMYA still being simulcast on 13.2?

I guess it was drop so they could add the CoolTV to 40-2
post #8751 of 10293
Reportedly there are no UHF frequencies available if WSPA and WLOS wanted to change. And the directional pattern of the WLOS signal makes it problematic to receive in the Upstate. But they have an agreement with WBTW RF13 in Florence. WSPA has a better signal but could use a boost in power to better serve fringe areas.
post #8752 of 10293
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

I guess it was drop so they could add the CoolTV to 40-2

What I meant was why didn't they, for example, put TheCoolTV on WMYA 40.3 and then put The Country Network on WLOS 13.3 and get rid of the unnecessary WLOS SD simulcast? Both channels are still using the same bandwidth regardless, and then viewers like myself that can receive WMYA on UHF 14 but not WLOS on VHF 13 could still watch WLOS on 40.2. Plus, WMYA is still on 13.2, so that doesn't make much sense to me.
post #8753 of 10293
Did Charter lose the HD feed for WHNS sometime between 9-9:30 last night?
Or was it a signal issue altogether?

It may also have been a DVR issue because I only got the last 5 minutes of New Girl while it still did manage to record Ringer (which was less important because I'm probably going to drop that from my recording list).
post #8754 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

WSPA is airing MeTV in widescreen 16x9 format with the images somewhat stretched and zoomed in. WCCB is airing it in 4x3 format with the black bars on the left and right.


WSPA was stretching the previous programming to 16:9 as well. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
post #8755 of 10293
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Originally Posted by Jediphish View Post

WSPA was stretching the previous programming to 16:9 as well. Makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

ME-TV looks much better on WCCB. WSPA's logic behind this is unfounded. Anybody with a high-def TV or converter box can select "stretch" if they so choose.
post #8756 of 10293
I'm fine with the stretch on WSPA 7.2

WCCB's 18.3 never filled the screen with my stretch feature.
post #8757 of 10293
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Originally Posted by mcy919 View Post

What I meant was why didn't they, for example, put TheCoolTV on WMYA 40.3 and then put The Country Network on WLOS 13.3 and get rid of the unnecessary WLOS SD simulcast? Both channels are still using the same bandwidth regardless, and then viewers like myself that can receive WMYA on UHF 14 but not WLOS on VHF 13 could still watch WLOS on 40.2. Plus, WMYA is still on 13.2, so that doesn't make much sense to me.

I have been wondering the same thing for a year now. Initially I was told that the new WLOS antenna would fix that - HAHA. It went from spotty signal to zero. If you have a Charter cable modem - you should be able to receive a few channels including the locals.
post #8758 of 10293
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Originally Posted by Bordershy View Post

I'm fine with the stretch on WSPA 7.2

WCCB's 18.3 never filled the screen with my stretch feature.

The METV on WSPA has now been changed to the normal 4:3 aspect ratio instead of the wide.
post #8759 of 10293
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

The METV on WSPA has now been changed to the normal 4:3 aspect ratio instead of the wide.

Gee, I just called WSPA about an hour ago and left a message for the engineer - thought he said he was out of the office until Monday. Hmmm....

Regardless of how or why they changed it, I'm glad they did.

Eric
post #8760 of 10293
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Originally Posted by eacalhoun View Post

Gee, I just called WSPA about an hour ago and left a message for the engineer - thought he said he was out of the office until Monday. Hmmm....

Regardless of how or why they changed it, I'm glad they did.

Eric

Nope. Watching Dick Van Dyke right now on 7.2 and image is badly stretched. Not as sharp as 18-3. But I'm glad to see MeTV on 7.2 regardless as I do not regularly receive 18-3. But would prefer 4x3.
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