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post #9061 of 9792
7/6/12 at 5:38pm
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Well Wash DC and Baltimore signals often overlap for many viewers in that area, so you can have a choice up there. I did prefer the DC news stations when I lived in Virginia, and I liked Roy Rogers fast food restaurant. And I know Kelly is syndicated, but in many markets it is on ABC station.

It's on most ABC O&O stations except WLS-TV in Chicago, IL. Also then-NBC station WMAR-TV (now ABC) in Baltimore refused to air the late Johnny Carson's Tonight Show in the 1980s and ended up on an indie. Shame on WMAR back then. Also WJZ refused to air the late Dick Clark's American Bandstand and they aired a local dance show that refused to integrate colored dancers together called The Buddy Deane Show (which inspired Hairspray musical and movie).
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post #9062 of 9792
7/6/12 at 5:41pm
Is anybody able to get WSPA TV 7 over the air channel 7.1 and 7.2 tonight over the air i know of no storms in the area tonight. 62.2 is on
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post #9063 of 9792
7/6/12 at 6:08pm
If you have indoor antenna for WSPA-7, sometimes atmospheric conditions in summertime can be problematic.
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post #9064 of 9792
7/7/12 at 10:28am
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If you have indoor antenna for WSPA-7, sometimes atmospheric conditions in summertime can be problematic.

I've picked up WSPA 7 ota on indoor antenna twice. But not good signals. frown.gif

Had you ever picked up signals so far like the Charleston, SC stations once or twice OTA? My friend Chris' Aunt picked up WCIV 4 (ABC) OTA once from her house in northern part of Greenwood, SC even it's about 170 miles from Charleston.

Also why Charlotte, NC had to share the weather info with NWS in Greenville/Spartanburg? Just like Savannah, GA shares Charleston, SC.

When analog was the king of TV signals until 6/12/2009 we get more OTA signals from our market and adjacent markets, when digital came less signals. frown.gif
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post #9065 of 9792
7/7/12 at 10:57am
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Originally Posted by SpencerKarter85 View Post

I've picked up WSPA 7 ota on indoor antenna twice. But not good signals. frown.gif
Had you ever picked up signals so far like the Charleston, SC stations once or twice OTA? My friend Chris' Aunt picked up WCIV 4 (ABC) OTA once from her house in northern part of Greenwood, SC even it's about 170 miles from Charleston.
Also why Charlotte, NC had to share the weather info with NWS in Greenville/Spartanburg? Just like Savannah, GA shares Charleston, SC.
When analog was the king of TV signals until 6/12/2009 we get more OTA signals from our market and adjacent markets, when digital came less signals. frown.gif

I have picked up two Augusta GA stations with indoor Antenna. and i have picked up the Hickory 14 channel

The NWS Weather office in Greenville Spartanburg Coverage the Charlotte NC area when they combine diffrent weather office around the US. and before the Dopper Radars came out the closest Radar that coverage the Greenville-Spartanburg area back in the 70-96s was in Athans Ga GSP WEATHER HISTORY http://www.erh.noaa.gov/gsp/history/history.htm
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post #9066 of 9792
7/8/12 at 9:06am
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Rumor has it Wendy Williams will be HD this season. Why? I have no idea. Nothing but gossip. And a lot of pink and purple.

I've just found out the dire answer from my best friend Chris when he called WHNS 21 the other day. He told me FOX Carolina is NOT regaining Wendy Williams this season. I was disappointed about this. I hope WW will see a light on over-the-air TV in the Greenville, SC market this season. I hope other stations would pick it up.

Instead WHNS 21 will aqiure the local rights to the syndicated show The Doctors from rival WYFF 4 after it aired it since it's 2008 inception.

I think during the 2011-12 season, I think the Greenville, South Carolina TV market is so racist! Because the syndicated talk shows they air on the station are white, and they ditch Wendy Williams (she's African American). Back in the 2010-11 season when Family Feud moved from WMYA 40 to WNEG 32 (now WUGA) which had a inadequate signal/pay-tv coverage in the market during Steve Harvey's first year. As a result the majority of the viewers in this market didn't get to see Steve Harvey's first year as host of Family Feud. When WNEG 32 became non-commercial WUGA back in May 2011, Harvey's Feud wasn't seen on the TV screens in Greenville, SC market until WMYA 40 proudly regained the rights to the show for the 2011-12 season. Also this market doesn't have a BounceTV subchannel affiliate. BounceTV is a subchannel network with programming for African Americans. That's why Greenville, SC has been lame. Sorry I've complained about it.

Ironic thing on The Wendy Williams Show, Greenville, SC native Rev. Jesse Jackson was a guest on her show recently and over-the-air viewers who don't have an adjacent station signal to watch her show or don't get cable and satellite to watch it on BET were denied to watch their homegrown native appearing on her show.
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post #9067 of 9792
7/8/12 at 3:17pm
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Rumor has it Wendy Williams will be HD this season. Why? I have no idea. Nothing but gossip. And a lot of pink and purple.

I've just found out the dire answer from my best friend Chris when he called WHNS 21 the other day. He told me FOX Carolina is NOT regaining Wendy Williams this season. I was disappointed about this. I hope WW will see a light on over-the-air TV in the Greenville, SC market this season. I hope other stations would pick it up.

Instead WHNS 21 will aqiure the local rights to the syndicated show The Doctors from rival WYFF 4 after it aired it since it's 2008 inception.

I think during the 2011-12 season, I think the Greenville, South Carolina TV market is so racist! Because the syndicated talk shows they air on the station are white, and they ditch Wendy Williams (she's African American). Back in the 2010-11 season when Family Feud moved from WMYA 40 to WNEG 32 (now WUGA) which had a inadequate signal/pay-tv coverage in the market during Steve Harvey's first year. As a result the majority of the viewers in this market didn't get to see Steve Harvey's first year as host of Family Feud. When WNEG 32 became non-commercial WUGA back in May 2011, Harvey's Feud wasn't seen on the TV screens in Greenville, SC market until WMYA 40 proudly regained the rights to the show for the 2011-12 season. Also this market doesn't have a BounceTV subchannel affiliate. BounceTV is a subchannel network with programming for African Americans. That's why Greenville, SC has been lame. Sorry I've complained about it.

Ironic thing on The Wendy Williams Show, Greenville, SC native Rev. Jesse Jackson was a guest on her show recently and over-the-air viewers who don't have an adjacent station signal to watch her show or don't get cable and satellite to watch it on BET were denied to watch their homegrown native appearing on her show.

In my opinion, playing the race card is not necessary. Very bad form.

While I do not work for WHNS, I really do not think race has anything to do with it. What I do think is WW didn't have the ratings and stations air programs to make a profit. If the ratings were not there, they have every right to drop a show. The fact that other stations have decided to not pick her up, may validate WHNS' decision that they too can't make money with Wendy. She has a very specific audience she appeals to. You may be part of that audience, but there may not be enough of them to support her program there. Not every syndicated program airs in every market. Fact of the business. And race has nothing to do with it.
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post #9068 of 9792
7/8/12 at 3:33pm
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In my opinion, playing the race card is not necessary. Very bad form.
While I do not work for WHNS, I really do not think race has anything to do with it. What I do think is WW didn't have the ratings and stations air programs to make a profit. If the ratings were not there, they have every right to drop a show. The fact that other stations have decided to not pick her up, may validate WHNS' decision that they too can't make money with Wendy. She has a very specific audience she appeals to. You may be part of that audience, but there may not be enough of them to support her program there. Not every syndicated program airs in every market. Fact of the business. And race has nothing to do with it.

She's the only black talk show host in syndication during the 2011-12 season since Oprah went off the air in May 2011. Sometimes I'm an intense person when issues like this comes. "Politics is forbidden to talk on forums" like censorship to me IMHO, it bothers me a lot.

But we need change too. Also off topic, we need uncleared syndicated shows like Ugly Betty or Til' Death aired on a station here in this market rather that going Paid-Programming Happy (aka Infomercial Happy or Infomercial Crazy) all the time.

I hope they don't say "We air Paid Programming because it's the station's obligation."
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post #9069 of 9792
7/9/12 at 2:23am
RIP Ernest Borgnine (1917-2012) frown.gif
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post #9070 of 9792
7/9/12 at 3:52am
The Wendy Williams issue is a business decision, not deliberate racism. Oprah had more mass appeal and attracted larger audiences, with better demographics. Wendy appeals to a more limited audience, and limited ratings means less revenue. In Charlotte, for example, she airs on WAXN TV-64, rather than their main channel WSOC-TV channel 9.
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post #9071 of 9792
7/9/12 at 4:01am
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

The Wendy Williams issue is a business decision, not deliberate racism. Oprah had more mass appeal and attracted larger audiences, with better demographics. Wendy appeals to a more limited audience, and limited ratings means less revenue. In Charlotte, for example, she airs on WAXN TV-64, rather than their main channel WSOC-TV channel 9.

Correction, Oprah Winfrey is off the air for a year. BTW, tylerSC do you work at a TV station or you're just an expert?
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post #9072 of 9792
7/9/12 at 4:59am
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The Wendy Williams issue is a business decision, not deliberate racism. Oprah had more mass appeal and attracted larger audiences, with better demographics. Wendy appeals to a more limited audience, and limited ratings means less revenue. In Charlotte, for example, she airs on WAXN TV-64, rather than their main channel WSOC-TV channel 9.

Correction, Oprah Winfrey is off the air for a year. BTW, tylerSC do you work at a TV station or you're just an expert?

I can't speak for tylerSC, but I DO work for a TV station and we DO air Wendy and her ratings are nothing to write home about but we have found a way to make money with it and that is what TV stations do. They are businesses first. Decisions are made based on that.

If you really need a Wendy fix, it also airs nightly at midnight on BET.
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post #9073 of 9792
7/9/12 at 5:25am
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I can't speak for tylerSC, but I DO work for a TV station and we DO air Wendy and her ratings are nothing to write home about but we have found a way to make money with it and that is what TV stations do. They are businesses first. Decisions are made based on that.
If you really need a Wendy fix, it also airs nightly at midnight on BET.

Don't give me this smirking and corny "I can't speak for tylerSC" nonsense. smile.gif But I'm lucky to watch it on BET, but folks in Columbia, SC aren't lucky because Jeremy Kyle isn't shown in the market.
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post #9074 of 9792
7/9/12 at 8:54am
My OTA signal pick-ups on my indoor antenna unfortunately for the week of July 9, 2012:

I've picked up a total of 9 over-the-air digital signals unfortunately (including subchannels)

Greenville, SC (my market): WYFF 4.1 (NBC), 4.2 (ThisTV) and WNEH 38.1 (PBS/SCETV) 38.2 (Create) and 38.3 (PBS World)

From an adjacent market of Augusta, GA: WJBF 6.1 (ABC), and 6.2 (MeTV)

Which is a bummer! frown.gif
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post #9075 of 9792
7/9/12 at 10:41am
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I can't speak for tylerSC, but I DO work for a TV station and we DO air Wendy and her ratings are nothing to write home about but we have found a way to make money with it and that is what TV stations do. They are businesses first. Decisions are made based on that.
If you really need a Wendy fix, it also airs nightly at midnight on BET.

Don't give me this smirking and corny "I can't speak for tylerSC" nonsense. smile.gif But I'm lucky to watch it on BET, but folks in Columbia, SC aren't lucky because Jeremy Kyle isn't shown in the market.

All you want to do is complain and grip. This conversation is completed.
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post #9076 of 9792
7/9/12 at 10:47am
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Originally Posted by SpencerKarter85 View Post

My OTA signal pick-ups on my indoor antenna unfortunately for the week of July 9, 2012:
I've picked up a total of 9 over-the-air digital signals unfortunately (including subchannels)
Greenville, SC (my market): WYFF 4.1 (NBC), 4.2 (ThisTV) and WNEH 38.1 (PBS/SCETV) 38.2 (Create) and 38.3 (PBS World)
From an adjacent market of Augusta, GA: WJBF 6.1 (ABC), and 6.2 (MeTV)
Which is a bummer! frown.gif
I don't recall if you've posted your tvfool results, but I'd really expect you to get 14.1 WMYA and 21.1 WHNS. WGGS, WSPA, and WYCW are pretty strong in "generic Greenwood" as well, but WSPA is real 7 which may need different antenna adjustment, or a different antenna completely.

I know you are using an indoor antenna, but talk a little about the wall construction and surrounding vegetation when you post (or repost) the tvfool results.
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post #9077 of 9792
7/9/12 at 10:53am
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All you want to do is complain and grip. This conversation is completed.

Okay I agree. End of story smile.gif
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post #9078 of 9792
7/9/12 at 12:28pm
I do not claim to be an expert by any means. My comments are merely opinions and observations based upon my experiences as a TV viewer in the Carolinas. Although my high school English teacher and journalism advisior suggested that I become a media critic and TV writer, I never chose that career option. I will leave that to Mark Washburn in Charlotte who does an excellent job. So any thoughts expressed here are just opinions and not necessarily the truth. Any clarifications and corrections from media professionals on this board are always welcome.
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post #9079 of 9792
7/9/12 at 2:53pm
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Originally Posted by Trip in VA View Post

From what I've been hearing, whichever stations are still running it are doing so with dying gear, local only. There is no national WeatherPlus feed as there used to be, and many of those former affiliates have either dropped the weather entirely as it makes no money, or are now affiliates of the AccuWeather channel.
Yes it did. When I was in the area last month, I spotted Mobile DTV on the WHNS translators in North Carolina.
- Trip

While commercial stations are certainly in the "business" to make money, they also are supposed to provide a modicum of public service oriented content, and weather channels do a very good job of that. One thing I noticed is that the stations that keep weather channels on .2 DT make sure to sell ads there, and they do. Even in the GSP area with the right salesmanship Weather PLUS could have made money in our market, I just think that Hearst group was making a package deal with ThisTV regardless of the market and that was that.

For amusement sake I found this over on YT and it is WTMJ 4 "new" weather station "powered by AccuWeather. Watch for the terrible fails here, and according to the uploader it seems to be a constant problem. I used to monitor their Weather PLUS station and never saw such glaring failures, even if there were occasional glitches the basic correct info was there.

I hate the busy, cluttered look of the AccuWeather product, and the tiny "live" window.

Here is the old Weather PLUS product, it's definitely better.

In any case I wrote to now NBC Universal owners Comcast and made a case for bringing back a light version of Weather PLUS, minus the expensive network OCMs. It could work, considering how disasterous the network's "non stop" and universal sports efforts are.
Edited by dubber - 7/9/12 at 6:48pm
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post #9080 of 9792
7/11/12 at 3:07pm
This is the first time in the history of WYFF News 4. And the first time in the history since I was a toddler watching NewsCenter 4.

On the 5pm newscast when a report from Mike McCormick did, they blurred out the rival WSPA and WHNS microphone flags. This is odd. This isn't a reality TV show, it's a local newscast. We don't want product displacements (common on reality TV shows) on local newscasts. That person in the editing room did this must be fired. We don't want logos blurring out on local newscasts. I've complain to WYFF 4 about this nonsense, whose idea was this in the first place? But I'm glad they unblurred it during the 6pm newscast. That's more like it. Learn from your mistakes, please. We don't want it again.
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post #9081 of 9792
7/11/12 at 3:19pm
I guess they did not want the competing stations' microphones displayed, but looks like somebody had too much time on their hands to go to the trouble of blocking them out. Seems a bit petty to me, as you will often see multiple mics from several stations on any given newscast.
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7/11/12 at 6:21pm
A little after 8:30pm, I turned to WCCB's feed of Me-TV and they were showing The Beverly Hillbillies, which was the scheduled program. I then turned to WSPA's feed and for some reason, they were showing Petticoat Junction, even though the program info showed The Beverly Hillbillies. Strangely, there was no Me-TV logo bug in the corner on WSPA's feed, although they still showed Me-TV commercials. On top of that, the Beverly Hillbillies episode they were showing on WCCB's feed crossed over with Petticoat Junction!

Does anyone know why WSPA's feed was showing Petticoat Junction instead of The Beverly Hillbillies? I assume another station in the market might have the rights to show The Beverly Hillbillies in primetime, but WSPA is the only Greenville-Spartanburg station I receive regularly.
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post #9083 of 9792
7/11/12 at 7:17pm
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A little after 8:30pm, I turned to WCCB's feed of Me-TV and they were showing The Beverly Hillbillies, which was the scheduled program. I then turned to WSPA's feed and for some reason, they were showing Petticoat Junction, even though the program info showed The Beverly Hillbillies. Strangely, there was no Me-TV logo bug in the corner on WSPA's feed, although they still showed Me-TV commercials. On top of that, the Beverly Hillbillies episode they were showing on WCCB's feed crossed over with Petticoat Junction!
Does anyone know why WSPA's feed was showing Petticoat Junction instead of The Beverly Hillbillies? I assume another station in the market might have the rights to show The Beverly Hillbillies in primetime, but WSPA is the only Greenville-Spartanburg station I receive regularly.

in the Mornings WSPA METV replace the Beverly Hillbillies with My Three Sons back when METV was showing the Beverly Hillbillies on Weekend Morning the WSPA METV feed was showing the Beverly Hillbillies I think WHNS FOX 21 has rights to the Beverly Hillbillies but they don't show them much.
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7/11/12 at 8:03pm
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in the Mornings WSPA METV replace the Beverly Hillbillies with My Three Sons back when METV was showing the Beverly Hillbillies on Weekend Morning the WSPA METV feed was showing the Beverly Hillbillies I think WHNS FOX 21 has rights to the Beverly Hillbillies but they don't show them much.

I did a search on Google and it appears you are correct. That sucks for Beverly Hillbillies fans in the Greenville-Spartanburg market. Here in the Charlotte market, The Beverly Hillbillies airs on Me-TV (WCCB-DT3) and RTV (WHKY-DT2), and WHKY simulcasts the RTV episodes on their main channel. However, the few RTV episodes I saw were public domain black-and-white episodes with different music.
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7/11/12 at 8:18pm
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I did a search on Google and it appears you are correct. That sucks for Beverly Hillbillies fans in the Greenville-Spartanburg market. Here in the Charlotte market, The Beverly Hillbillies airs on Me-TV (WCCB-DT3) and RTV (WHKY-DT2), and WHKY simulcasts the RTV episodes on their main channel. However, the few RTV episodes I saw were public domain black-and-white episodes with different music.

WGGS DT 16-2 shows some Public Domains episodes of The Beverly Hillbillies B&W episodes
Edited by LMckin - 7/12/12 at 7:36am
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7/11/12 at 10:18pm
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This is the first time in the history of WYFF News 4. And the first time in the history since I was a toddler watching NewsCenter 4.
On the 5pm newscast when a report from Mike McCormick did, they blurred out the rival WSPA and WHNS microphone flags. This is odd. This isn't a reality TV show, it's a local newscast. We don't want product displacements (common on reality TV shows) on local newscasts. That person in the editing room did this must be fired. We don't want logos blurring out on local newscasts. I've complain to WYFF 4 about this nonsense, whose idea was this in the first place? But I'm glad they unblurred it during the 6pm newscast. That's more like it. Learn from your mistakes, please. We don't want it again.

@Doug:

Was this an intentional effort?...I wonder if WYFF/Hearst were testing viewers to see if they noticed this. Not sure why though.

I DEFINITELY AGREE that this kind of behavior is UNACCEPTABLE when presenting a journalistic, informational, news product, by a first tier broadcast station OTA.

That being said I really hope that the "active" graphics presentation goes away sometime. Doug remembers what I am speaking of. Honestly it doesn't do ANYTHING to help present the news in a more effective way instead it is disorienting, and distracting, and looks tabloid-like IMO. It "cheapens" the product and lessens the impact of the actual news story being communicated to the viewer. I also heard the (OMG!) the segue/live (wipe) sound effects as well...and I also hate them. Maybe Hearst needs some more feedback from viewers, how about standing out by NOT going along with the crowd and make a "better" product in the process.

Less graphics+ no CG animation (or at least much less) = more dignified newscast. IMO.
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7/12/12 at 5:18am
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WGGS DT 16-2 shows some Public Domains episodes of ]The Beverly Hillbillies[/ B&W episodes

Thanks to the so-called SyndEX thing frown.gif
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post #9088 of 9792
7/12/12 at 7:36am
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Thanks to the so-called SyndEX thing frown.gif

You're welcome and i emailed WSPA about Beverly Hillbillies here is the reply


We cannot air Beverly Hillbillies in our market due to program ownership issues (another station in our market owns the rights to the show). Me-TV provides us with alternate programming to air in its place. Some schedules and promos may still show Beverly Hillbillies because that is what is shown in most markets in the country.
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post #9089 of 9792
7/12/12 at 12:29pm
I'm just glad that WYFF4 still airs the Andy Griffith Show as that is a classic I never get tired of.
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post #9090 of 9792
7/12/12 at 1:09pm
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You're welcome and i emailed WSPA about Beverly Hillbillies here is the reply
We cannot air Beverly Hillbillies in our market due to program ownership issues (another station in our market owns the rights to the show). Me-TV provides us with alternate programming to air in its place. Some schedules and promos may still show Beverly Hillbillies because that is what is shown in most markets in the country.

Don't feel bad. WSB 2.2 in Atlanta, GA (also ABC station on 2.1 since 1980) isn't airing Cheers on Me-TV because WPCH 17 (aka Peachtree TV) have the rights to the show.
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