Greenville, SC - HDTV - Page 304

The last time I scanned for over-the-air digital channels today on my indoor antenna (a outdoor one with pre-amp required for my area) I've only got 5 (including subchannels) found. Just WNEH 38 PBS/SCETV! Bummer! Since DirecTV have been forced by Viacom (they own BET) to removed their channels due to their ongoing dispute, I'm denied to watch Wendy Williams because the Greenville, SC market isn't carry her show at all. And I've felt like I was cursed (sorry I have to say that word). Plus I can only imagine if the DTV law didn't passed years ago before June 12, 2009, we would still have analog TV today. Back in the days of analog TV, we got more signals over the air (I've picked up some stations besides our market from Augusta, Atlanta, Savannah, Charleston, Columbia, Myrtle Beach, Charlotte, Knoxville, and Greensboro) but those days are gone. Since we went full digital we get less over-the-air signals unfortunately. It's sad.

You can watch her on her Official Youtube channel

http://www.youtube.com/user/WendyWilliamsShow

I'd consider that a good thing

You do realize that Wendy is in reruns until the fall? The normal summer hiatus. A) you aren't missing anything, and B) you have already seen it if you have been watching on BET.

Just so you know, Chaz Bono was on today. Happy?

I'm worried that Wendy Williams won't see the light on over-the-air TV on Greenville, SC again this season

If she doesn't, she doesn't. That is called, LIFE.

Do you care about business or the honest viewers??

The viewers tell us what they want and do not want to watch via ratings. That IS business.

Oh, you must be on the "Business" side. Lots of syndicated reruns weren't shown at all in Greenville, SC over the years. Like Ugly Betty, Til' Death, Degrassi: The Next Generation (when it was Syndicated with Program Partners from 2007-09) and Greenville, SC wouldn't give about Degrassi reruns along with other markets like Orlando, Nashville, and crummy Baltimore instead of joining markets with Atlanta, Charleston, Charlotte, Augusta, Columbia, NYC, Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, DC, etc to carry Degrassi in syndication during the 2007-08 season until now-defunct commercial WNEG (now non-commercial WUGA) came to save the day purchasing the rights for the 2008-09 season despite inadequate pay-TV/over-the-air signal coverage in their own market (which is Greenville, SC), Hogan Family, Perfect Strangers, and others didn't get to see the syndication reruns shown in Greenville, SC at all

Greenville, SC needs to stop being 'Paid-Programming Happy' and carry all the syndicated shows that's uncleared in this market so the viewers in this market won't get denied and have more choices. That's what I care about. I care about the viewers enjoy their favorite shows. If I was wealthy and had a license to operate a Independent TV station in my market with WSHK-TV, I would broadcast the uncleared syndicated shows (like the ones left one after WNEG went to become non-commercial WUGA) and be carried on all Pay-TV providers (DirecTV as well) via unfair retransmission consent by the providers. Also this market is 5% preemption happy because WYFF 4 doesn't air KLG & Hoda in the mornings, but I know they air the repeats at 2am (KPRC and WDIV owned by Post does the opposite thing), and WLOS 13 doesn't air "LItton's Weekend Adventure" from ABC on Saturdays, instead companion channel WMYA 40 airs one program on that block on a tape-delay basis instead Ocean Mysteries with Jeff Corwin. Back in the day network affiliated TV stations clear a show and don't clear other shows and if they got an Independent TV station in the market, no choice to see on that other channel instead. I've heard networks like NBC is more tolerant with affiliate preemptions than it was back then, and some stations carry the entire schedule of Big 4 network programs, not all stations are created equal. But this is not the 1960s, it's 2012. This is not the B&W to Color era anymore, it's the HD era. End of story
Edited by SpencerKarter85 - 7/14/12 at 10:37am

Rant all you want. It doesn't change a thing. And personally, I don't care. I don't live in this market.

Ratings and demographics have shown that Wendy Williams does not attract a widespread, mainstream audience like Oprah did. She attracts a more limited audience. Which may be part of the business decision not to air her program in a largely conservative market such as Greenville, SC. Limited ratings mean limited revenue.

I wish Greenville, SC was Liberal like Atlanta, GA or Asheville, NC. I hate Conservative stuff. Also that's why Greenville, SC is Lame! We're the unlucky ones.
Conservatives don't like Wendy Williams? Conservative folks are too strict IMHO. Sorry but I'm trying to get political. It feels like Salt Lake City, Utah when KSL 5 the Mormon-owned NBC affiliate refused to carry SNL because it's offensive. That's the reason I hate racism and censorship.

Then why don't you move to Atlanta or Asheville and go post incessantly in those local threads!

Correct.. Money talks...and I "wish" walks..Tv is a business..if the show was saleable and any money could be made it would be on the air in that market..Too bad some folks lack basic math and economic skills and have a poor grasp of reality.

Correction Atlanta, GA has their own market. But Asheville, NC is part of the Greenville, SC market. Please do the research bdfox18doe. I loved living in South Carolina, but I hate living in strict places and I hate censorship, I'm not moving to places like NYC or Los Angeles because it's not stricter than South Carolina so I can watch network or syndicated programs in it's entirety, but I've got family here and I don't want to be away from my family. My mom doesn't like the idea of me moving out, because I was born with autism and I'm dependent unfortunately. Okay please.

I don't have to.. I'm in the biz and know the markets..you are the one who mentioned Asheville in the first place.. You need to read more and type less...learning from those here that know more than you do..that will help a lot with your obvious case of headuprectumosis... From someone that is physically handicapped...you should not use autism as an excuse.

SpencerKarter you may be pleased to know that WYFF4 will be airing the Steve Harvey Show in the fall.

I know I seen the promos. Also NBC O&O stations will air it too like I think NYC, Los Angeles, and Chicago.

Does anybody remember when WYFF was WFBC before spring 1983 and it was called NewsCenter 4 from 1980-1989? I miss the Arrow 4 logo, luckily I've got old tapes and one DVD of channel 4's past from 1984-1991. Good ole days. BTW, I didn't know Dale Gilbert started wearing glasses recently on WYFF News 4 just like the late Charlie Gertz did in the late 1980s.

WFBC was sold by Multimedia I believe and became WYFF and was known as Your Friend Four. Back then they used the arrow on the 4 logo which I think was red and blue.

And WFBC radio still exists but is better known as B-93.7FM.

I notice him wearing Glasses during the Weekend Morning news when he was filling -in yes i remember when it was called Newscenter 4 and remember when they was called WFBC Back when Channel 40 change their Call sign from WAXA they brought back the WFBC Call sign for channel 40 before they change it to current WMYA

They traded it to Pulitzer station KSDK in St. Louis, MO to WFBC/WYFF and Multimedia to KSDK.

They used the red/blue arrow 4 logo from late 1974-summer 1986 before changing to gold and continued to use until spring 1991 after the late Charlie Gertz's retirement and Cessarich's arrival.

Hello there,

I have not posted on AVS in several years but now I am seeking help on an antenna choice. I have relatives that live in Swannanoa about 11 miles east of Asheville. They have had DirecTV for a while and are tired of the monthly bills. As you may know Swannanoa is near Black Mountain and is in a deep valley there. I have been pouring over Data from antenna web, FCC database, and TVFool as well. TVFool seems to show more information than the first two. What I found out is that there are 4 translators there, one for WLOS, another for WSPA, and for WHNS and UNCTV. The local translators are located in two different directions. Additionally, there is some chance of receiving other signals from main transmitter sites. However, WYFF and translators are not available there it appears unless I can get the antenna higher. That is not likely. I will use a mast that is already on the house and is between 15 and 20' off the ground and it does clear the top of the house roof. I will use the grounding block and wiring (cable) that is already there to send the signal to the TV inside. Being in the mountains I am wondering how much of a problem that multipath interference will be. Also, there are quite a few large trees in the neighborhood. The neighborhood is the grovemont section of Swannanoa although you all may not be familiar with that. Do you think I will need a preamp? Only one tv will be used however, there is a splitter under the house that goes to a second cable outlet in a bedroom that is not being used at the moment. I sent a message to SolidSignal.com and their technician reccomended the ClearStream 2 Antenna with additional dipole (for HI VHF, meaning translators on Channel 10 and 12). Any other ideas for what would work well in that particular location? By the way, I am only interested in receiving the digital signals not any analog stuff. TV Fool shows that the translators in the area are supposedly broadcasting a Digital Signal now.

Here is the link to what SolidSignal.com reccomended for that location:

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=C2-V-CJM&d=Antennas-Direct-C2-V-CJM-ClearStream2-Outdoor-Digital-HD-TV-Antenna-With-Dipole-And-CJ-Mount-%28C2-V-CJM-%29

Additionally, Here is the output from the TV Fool Query for their exact address at 15' (estimated, it may be closer to 20' but using more conservative info):

http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3d990066f9568560

Thanks!

Here's my indoor antenna OTA signal pickup as of last night. 22 channels found (including subchannels)

I've picked up WYFF 4 (NBC) and 4.2 (This TV), and WNTV 29 (PBS/SCETV) as well from my own market.

I've almost got WIS 10 (NBC) last night, no signal. But got WLTX 19 (CBS) and WOLO 25 (ABC) from Columbia, SC.

From Charlotte, NC market WHKY 14 (Ind.)

I've also picked up WPCH 17 (Peachtree TV) from Atlanta, GA over the air temporary.

SpencerKarter what type of antenna and preamp do you have? A good outdoor antenna and appropriate preamp should give you better results, particularly at your location. I would think you should be able to get more reliable reception of most GSP and possibly several Columbia channels, as well as possibly Augusta and sometimes Charlotte.

This is going to be your big sticking point. Based on TV Fool, I suspect you could receive W11AU-D with a good outdoor VHF antenna and amp, even with W10AD-D right next door. It looks like most of the major networks should be available.

CBS from W10AD-D.
ABC from WLOS direct or, when it signs on, W12AQ-D.
PBS from WUNW direct or WUNF direct or W19HK-D.
FOX from W47DY-D or, when it signs on, W35AV-D.
NBC from W11AU-D will be the tough one.

I'm going to recommend separate VHF and UHF antennas, the UHF antenna probably isn't too important. For the VHF, I would recommend the Y10-7-13. Combine them together with a UVSJ, and run it through an amp of some kind. I like the Kitztech KT-200, but others may have other opinions.

I will allow others to chime in with their own suggestions.

- Trip

Unfortunately I've got a indoor Philips Antenna.

If you can post your TV Fool status here based upon zip code perhaps we could get a better idea of reception possibilities in Greenwood area. If you choose to upgrade your antenna and preamp, I think you can get much better results. Or at least go into HHG and get a Terk HDTVa. It is one of the better indoor antennas, with a very well designed UHF element and rabbit ears for VHF. But cheaper online.

jkeelsnc,

I suggest purchasing an antenna from a retailer that has a hassle-free, no-questions-asked return policy. If the antenna does not perform as expected, you can return it. I purchased a Channel Master CM 4228HD directly from the Channel Master store less than a year ago - I called AND emailed them prior to the purchase to verify (and double verify) they would provide a hassle-free return. They adamantly promised such a return, if necessary. I purchased this as an "open box" item from their store and was extremely satisfied with the ease of the 4228's installation and its performance. I was very impressed with this "flat" antenna's performance regarding vhf-hi channels (7-14). WSPA and WLOS are my strongest signals, at 40 and 50 miles from their towers here SW of Morganton. Again, I highly recommend checking the retailer's return policy before purchasing.

Eric