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post #9451 of 10293
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

The PeachTree TV 17 is the Original TBS Superstition I remember long Time ago when i was growning up it seam like i pickup that station on a old B & W TV Set in Bed Room. that was problem Ducting back then in Analog and also i remember picking up channel 5 in Bristol Tenn and channel 11 in Johnsonville Tenn Analog Long Time ago also. in Late 70s or early 80s.

tylerSC, here's my signal report.

About 15 channels found pointing NNW direction at my house using AntennaCraft C490 antenna.

WSPA-TV 7 (CBS) Good signal
WHNS 21 (FOX) Good signal
WUNF 33 (PBS/UNC-TV) Bad-No signal
WNEH 38 (PBS/SCETV) Great signal
WMYA 40 (MNT) Good signal.

Sadly I haven't picked up WYFF 4, WLOS 13, WGGS 16, WNTV 29, and WYCW 62 in that direction. frown.gif
post #9452 of 10293
To answer your question, SpencerKarter, I use a very good UHF yagi antenna from the original Channel Master company, the 4248 UHF Diamond. Unfortunately, it is no longer made by the current company, which now produces cheaply made Chinese imitations. They also made a larger 4257 version, and both of those antennas work even better than the 91XG which is now about the best long range UHF antenna. As for a preamp, I now use a Kitztech 200 which has a very low noise figure, and it is split between 2 TVs so it does not overpower. Also, I have a separate HiVHF antenna, the Antennacraft 7-13 version which I use for 7, 9(29), and 13. I join the 2 antennas with a Radioshack UHF/VHF signal combiner, which does allow the power to pass for the preamp on the UHF side. This set up works very well for me, even in the attic, as I receive all AVL/GSP locals and most CLT channels, including WSOC 9.1 or 9.5 a good bit of the time, especially at night. Both CBS affiliates are my strongest, as WBTV-3 and WSPA-7 are always 100%, along with WNVT-29. WJZY-46 and WCNC-36 are also strong, and fortunately I am also able to receive WYFF-4 and WHNS-21 at 86-92% off the back side of my UHF antenna pointed towards Charlote.
post #9453 of 10293
HAS CHARTER CABLE DROPPED THE CLEAR QAM LOCAL CHANNELS? ... or just changed the channel frequency? All clear qam locals are now gone, including 4, 7, 13, and 21. I have expanded basic cable, no box. Just wondering before I rescan the TiVo box. Fortunately, I have local OTA antenna, but would still like to know if the local NBC, CBS, ABC, and Fox channels are available via clear qam.
post #9454 of 10293
CHARTER UPDATE: I rescanned with my cable directly connected to the Samsung plasma TV. 4.1, 7.1, and 21.1 are no longer available via clear qam. But 13.1, 40.1, and 62.1 are still there. An analog version of WYFF4 is still there on cable channel 4, and it looks like a digital standard def version in 4x3 on 82.10. But the widescreen HD versions of 4, 7, and 21 seem to be gone by way of clear qam. Not sure what is going on with NBC, CBS, and Fox.
post #9455 of 10293
The translator for WSPA in Asheville seems to be out. Not a bad signal, but no signal at all.

Anyone heard of any translator changes up here? Its W08BP on Busbee Mtn.
post #9456 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

HAS CHARTER CABLE DROPPED THE CLEAR QAM LOCAL CHANNELS?
4:50 pm Tuesday, all 6 are fine here via QAM/Charter ... without rescan, so probably no change. Most likely it was a temporary glitch.
post #9457 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

To answer your question, SpencerKarter, I use a very good UHF yagi antenna from the original Channel Master company, the 4248 UHF Diamond. Unfortunately, it is no longer made by the current company, which now produces cheaply made Chinese imitations. They also made a larger 4257 version, and both of those antennas work even better than the 91XG which is now about the best long range UHF antenna. As for a preamp, I now use a Kitztech 200 which has a very low noise figure, and it is split between 2 TVs so it does not overpower. Also, I have a separate HiVHF antenna, the Antennacraft 7-13 version which I use for 7, 9(29), and 13. I join the 2 antennas with a Radioshack UHF/VHF signal combiner, which does allow the power to pass for the preamp on the UHF side. This set up works very well for me, even in the attic, as I receive all AVL/GSP locals and most CLT channels, including WSOC 9.1 or 9.5 a good bit of the time, especially at night. Both CBS affiliates are my strongest, as WBTV-3 and WSPA-7 are always 100%, along with WNVT-29. WJZY-46 and WCNC-36 are also strong, and fortunately I am also able to receive WYFF-4 and WHNS-21 at 86-92% off the back side of my UHF antenna pointed towards Charlote.

Well on my antenna I got w/o using the pre-amp. I've picked up WSPA 7, WHNS 21, WUNF 33 (bad signal), WNEH 38, and WMYA 40 facing the NNW direction from my house. BTW, I love watching MeTV on 7.2 many times, great classic shows on. I like watching Bob Newhart Show, Mission: Impossible, and sometimes That Girl.
post #9458 of 10293
Yes MeTV is good as well as Antenna TV on WJZY 46.2 . I like the old shows.
post #9459 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Yes MeTV is good as well as Antenna TV on WJZY 46.2 . I like the old shows.

Man I wish I had D* AM21 tuner one day tylerSC so I can integrate my over-the-air channels with my locals.
post #9460 of 10293
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Originally Posted by SpencerKarter85 View Post

Man I wish I had D* AM21 tuner one day tylerSC so I can integrate my over-the-air channels with my locals.
A TiVo box will do that also with cable, but they are a bit pricey at first. But sometimes they are on sale and have a $100 off promo for lifetime subscription. Do you have DirecTV SpencerKarter?
post #9461 of 10293
An AM21 is only 50 bucks from D*.

The problem is that D* hasn't updated their guides for subchannels since before several of them launched so you can't watch them on the AM21 anyway nor record them on the DVR. For example, in St Louis, Antenna-TV, ME-TV, and The Country Network are the local subchannels that cannot be tuned in with the D* system.
post #9462 of 10293
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Originally Posted by gbynum View Post

4:50 pm Tuesday, all 6 are fine here via QAM/Charter ... without rescan, so probably no change. Most likely it was a temporary glitch.
Still missing certain clear qam channels again today. No WYFF-4, WHNS-21, or WSPA-7 at my location. Perhaps a localized problem in my neighborhood.
post #9463 of 10293
I need help. I live in Waynesville and have a Winegard HD8200U antenna and a Wingard 8700 preamp. The Antenna is on a hill on the south side of the house. It is about 20ft above roof level. No trees are close by. There is 4ft of RG6 going from antenna to preamp, then 50ft going to grounding block, and an additional 50ft going from grounding block to Tivo receiver. Here are my signal strength readings when antenna is pointed for best reception on channel 7.
4-82%
7-29%
13-70%
16-50%
21-74%
33-90%
38-46%
40-75%
62-21%
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post #9464 of 10293
Problem is now corrected and all clear qam locals have now returned on Charter. Including WYFF-4. But was never a major problem because fortunately I have OTA antenna as my primary source for the locals. Must have been a technical problem isolated to my neighborhood.
post #9465 of 10293
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Originally Posted by mtgudger View Post

I need help. I live in Waynesville and have a Winegard HD8200U antenna and a Wingard 8700 preamp.
Your signals don't show that tvfool does a good job there ... so let's look at other possibilities.

You seem to be on the other side of a mountain or 2 ... and the great NBC (36 real) signal doesn't match the expected at all ... nor does 7 which you are discussing.

Let's consider 2 things. You are 2 edge, and small antenna location changes can make BIG differences. That those 2 towers are "close" in direction and that different in strength vs predicted would encourage trying slightly lowering (or raising) the antenna. It is also POSSIBLE that strong signals are swamping the amp input ... try it off. I'm told that slightly angling the antenna up sometimes helps as well.

It is possible that 7 really has a strong signal, but that there are multiple reflections causing multipath. The signal quality in the TV screens isn't really strength. There are reports that a lesser signal sometimes is a better signal. It appears you should be pointed 121T, 127M, east-southeast. Does that match the real world?

Good Luck!
post #9466 of 10293
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Originally Posted by gbynum View Post

Your signals don't show that tvfool does a good job there ... so let's look at other possibilities.
You seem to be on the other side of a mountain or 2 ... and the great NBC (36 real) signal doesn't match the expected at all ... nor does 7 which you are discussing.
Let's consider 2 things. You are 2 edge, and small antenna location changes can make BIG differences. That those 2 towers are "close" in direction and that different in strength vs predicted would encourage trying slightly lowering (or raising) the antenna. It is also POSSIBLE that strong signals are swamping the amp input ... try it off. I'm told that slightly angling the antenna up sometimes helps as well.
It is possible that 7 really has a strong signal, but that there are multiple reflections causing multipath. The signal quality in the TV screens isn't really strength. There are reports that a lesser signal sometimes is a better signal. It appears you should be pointed 121T, 127M, east-southeast. Does that match the real world?
Good Luck!

tylerSC, I've moved my antenna to 336 degrees NNW pointing to the towers at my house, and I've picked up WSPA 7, WHNS 21, WUNF 33 (I think), WNEH 38, WMYA 40, and WYCW 62. I haven't picked up WYFF 4, WLOS 13, nor WGGS 16. But I've picked up WJBF 6 (moderate signal), and no signal for WAGT 26 both from Augusta, GA.
post #9467 of 10293
I moved the antenna from my house which was about 18' high to the hill in my back yard. The antenna is now 20' higher than it was. I tried different locations and this seems to work the bast. If I run without preamp, I get no signal at all on 7. Channel 13 actually comes in batter w/o amp. I get best channel 7 signal at 160degrees mag. which doesn't make sense, if I point it at 127m, I get no signal but there is a 6200ft mountain in that direction.
post #9468 of 10293
This morning before sunrise I've picked up WBTV 3 (CBS) and WSOC 9 (ABC) from Charlotte, NC over the air at my house this morning. The signal was good. smile.gif
post #9469 of 10293
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Originally Posted by SpencerKarter85 View Post

Had you heard Chris Cato of CBS station WSPA-TV is leaving for Philly to work for WCAU-TV 10 the NBC O&O in Philly? Gordon Dill will replace Cato at 5:30pm and 7:00pm weeknights.

Tonight is Chris Cato last night on WSPA Btw Justin Cooper is called Justin Chambers in Las Vages

Also Diane Derby is also in Las Vagas doing News
post #9470 of 10293
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

Tonight is Chris Cato last night on WSPA Btw Justin Cooper is called Justin Chambers in Las Vages
Also Diane Derby is also in Las Vagas doing News

On 3, 5, 8, or 13 in Las Vegas? Speaking of Las Vegas, my pal Chris been there five years ago. It was also the late Redd Foxx's permanent residence and buried there.
post #9471 of 10293
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Originally Posted by SpencerKarter85 View Post

On 3, 5, 8, or 13 in Las Vegas? Speaking of Las Vegas, my pal Chris been there five years ago. It was also the late Redd Foxx's permanent residence and buried there.

Justin Cooper Chambers is on Fox21 in Colorado Springs

http://youtu.be/BJk-8mJDs1g

Diane Derby is in Colorado Springs, CO instead of Las Vagas

http://www.kktv.com/station/bios/news/148544555.html

I`m wrong it is Colorado Springs Co where Justin and Diane Derby is now

and Chris Cato is going to Philly PA
Edited by LMckin - 10/12/12 at 5:36pm
post #9472 of 10293
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Originally Posted by SpencerKarter85 View Post

This morning before sunrise I've picked up WBTV 3 (CBS) and WSOC 9 (ABC) from Charlotte, NC over the air at my house this morning. The signal was good. smile.gif

Last night was very good here. I happened to wake up in the middle of the night, couldn't get back to sleep, and ended up re-scanning all the channels on my DVR and converter box, with the antenna aimed in several directions. I ended up with:

Greenvliie: WYFF-4, WSPA-7, WLOS-13, WGGS-16, WHNS-21, W28DB-28, WNTV-29, WUNF-33, WNEH-38, WMYA-40, WSQY-51 (analog!), WYCW-62. Normally I also get WRET-49 which is my strongest SCETV station, but it was out last night for some reason.

Charlotte: WBTV-3, WSOC-9, WHKY-14, WCCB-18, WNSC-30, WCNC-36, WJZY-46, WMYT-55, WUNG-58, WAXN-64. During the day I can usually get only 3, 36, 45, 55.

Greensboro: WFMY-2, WGHP-8, WCWG-20, WXLV-45, WMYV-48. I see these only occasionally on nights like this.

Columbia: WIS-10, WLTX-19, WOLO-25, WRLK-35, WACH-57.

Augusta: WJBF-6. For some reason I had to aim the antenna to the north instead of to the south to see it. A neighbor's house, a lot of trees and a hill are on the south side of my house, so maybe I'm getting a refiection from something to the north, can't figure out what, though. Once in a while I can see WAGT-26 and rarely WRDW-12 by aiming more or less south, but not last night.

Total including WRET which I normally should have been able to see: 34 channels with 85 subchannels.
post #9473 of 10293
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Originally Posted by jtbell View Post

Last night was very good here. I happened to wake up in the middle of the night, couldn't get back to sleep, and ended up re-scanning all the channels on my DVR and converter box, with the antenna aimed in several directions. I ended up with:
Greenvliie: WYFF-4, WSPA-7, WLOS-13, WGGS-16, WHNS-21, W28DB-28, WNTV-29, WUNF-33, WNEH-38, WMYA-40, WSQY-51 (analog!), WYCW-62. Normally I also get WRET-49 which is my strongest SCETV station, but it was out last night for some reason.
Charlotte: WBTV-3, WSOC-9, WHKY-14, WCCB-18, WNSC-30, WCNC-36, WJZY-46, WMYT-55, WUNG-58, WAXN-64. During the day I can usually get only 3, 36, 45, 55.
Greensboro: WFMY-2, WGHP-8, WCWG-20, WXLV-45, WMYV-48. I see these only occasionally on nights like this.
Columbia: WIS-10, WLTX-19, WOLO-25, WRLK-35, WACH-57.
Augusta: WJBF-6. For some reason I had to aim the antenna to the north instead of to the south to see it. A neighbor's house, a lot of trees and a hill are on the south side of my house, so maybe I'm getting a refiection from something to the north, can't figure out what, though. Once in a while I can see WAGT-26 and rarely WRDW-12 by aiming more or less south, but not last night.
Total including WRET which I normally should have been able to see: 34 channels with 85 subchannels.

Today, I've picked up all the locals except WLOS 13 and WGGS 16. But having trouble getting signal of WYFF 4 (I'm getting the blue screen of death with 'no signal'!) which means no NBC frown.gif , and WNTV 29. The antenna is facing NW to the GSP towers. I can get good signals of WSPA 7, WHNS 21, WUNF 33, WNEH 38, WMYA 40, and WYCW 62. I've got WJBF 6 out of Augusta, GA as an adjacent local.
post #9474 of 10293
For some reason, Charter keeps dropping the clear qam locals at my location. The only local channels in HD from clear qam are WLOS-13 and WMYA-40. No signal on 4, 7, 21, 29, and 62. For some reason these channels appear to be blocked, as signal strength is good on all other cable channels. Have they changed the RF frequency for the clear qam locals? They returned the other day, but now they are gone again. I have not rescanned again, as it takes a very long time to scan for cable channels, as the scanning process is much quicker for OTA antenna channels. But if I know the RF channel I can do a direct manual input which is much quicker. Have the clear qam channels changed? My zip is 29607.
post #9475 of 10293
Apparently a new FCC regulation is allowing the cable cos. to drop the clear qam locals from the basic digital tier. So it looks like you will have to have a cable box or cable card in order to receive HD digital service for the local channels. And of course an additional fee will be charged after a reported 2 year grace period. Another good reason to have an OTA antenna to receive local and regional channels in HD. But I guess it is time to go ahead and get a cable card and tuning adapter for the TiVo, as supposedly analog cable is eventually going away as well.
post #9476 of 10293
I have HD cable and an antenna. The antenna is so much sharper than the Time Warner. Their cable networks are full of blotchy patches on many channels, and AMC HD,& TV land HD seems to be the worst. Sci-Fi isn't very good either. Time Warner uses switched digital here, and it still isn't as good as Directv HD. I think they need to get rid of the analog channels so we can get better picture on HD because right now it is awful.
post #9477 of 10293
We have expanded basic cable through Charter, with no box. Connected to a TiVo, along with OTA antenna for local, regional channels. So the only HD channels we were getting through cable were the clear qam locals, which are now being removed. But with the antenna, that is no problem. But the other cable channels look lousy on a widescreen HDTV, so we will probably get a cable card and a tuning adapter, and uprgrade to HD. If they give us a decent rate.
post #9478 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

We have expanded basic cable through Charter, with no box. Connected to a TiVo, along with OTA antenna for local, regional channels. So the only HD channels we were getting through cable were the clear qam locals, which are now being removed. But with the antenna, that is no problem. But the other cable channels look lousy on a widescreen HDTV, so we will probably get a cable card and a tuning adapter, and uprgrade to HD. If they give us a decent rate.

Well I've did some scanning. I've picked up WSPA 7 (Good signal), WHNS 21 (weak signal!), WUNF 33 (NO SIGNAL!), WNEH 38 (good signal), and WMYA 40 (Good signal). Sadly, I'm not picking up WYFF 4, WLOS 13, WGGS 16, WNTV 29, nor WYCW 62 frown.gif

I hate living in fringe areas. I'm in Greenwood, SC.
post #9479 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

So the only HD channels we were getting through cable were the clear qam locals, which are now being removed.
Tyler, all is still fine here on the eastside ... near Riverside High school, Greer mailing address. We have 2 TVs and a USB tuner. One of the TVs is connected to a cable box which offers the "standard" HD, no extra $ above the expanded basic but the box ($10, I think) The other 2, one small Vizio set and my Happauge tuner, do fine and have not needed rescanning; I can give you the RF channels by looking in the Happauge application, but the Vizio uses Charter's information, new around the beginning of this year, I think ... rather than 114.1 for OTA 36 Charter now displays the 4.1. 113.1 is OTA 13.1, displayed as 13.1, with 114.3 for OTA 7 displayed as 7.1. I'll PM you with contact details and we can try things simultaneously if you want.
post #9480 of 10293
Gbynum, it sounds like Charter may be removing the clear qam locals as a result of the recent FCC ruling. Most of the locals are now gone at my location, except for 13.1 WLOS and 40.1 WMYA. We have expanded basic cable, no box. I tried scanning with the cable directly connected to the Samsung plasma, as well as the TiVo box. 4, 7, 21, and 62 are gone. I want to get a cable card and a tuning adapter, and upgrade to HD, because the analog cable channels look bad on a widescreen HDTV. I like the news channels, the Weatherchannel, and sometimes ESPN. But would prefer the HD versions. And supposedly, according to the FCC ruling, there should be no charge for the cable card for at least 2 years. But I will have to see how much they charge for the HD upgrade. As for the local channels, it is no problem since I have an antenna. But I would like to know for sure what they are doing with clear qam, since it still seems to be available in your area.
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