Greenville, SC - HDTV - Page 317

They aren't allowed to remove the locals from clear QAM unless they provide them over IP according to the new FCC regulation (Boxee lobbied hard for this and won). There's no way Charter could move this fast. I think it would be years before Charter could implement such a system.

Well there must be some sort of technical problem at my location, as most clear qam locals are gone except 13-WLOS and WMYA-40. No signal indicated.

tylerSC, I've point the antenna to 90 degrees (East) pointing to the Columbia, SC TV towers at my house. I can only get WOLO 25 (fair signal), but no WIS 10, WLTX 19, WRLK 35, WACH 57, etc. I've found out that my mast is about 15 feet.

Will a preamp help me pick up Columbia, SC locals?

It must be a technical problem because the FCC's ruling seems to only apply to all-digital cable systems. I also have Charter, and even though the entire lineup has been available in digital since late last year, many analog channels are still available. I'm assuming it's like that on your Charter system as well.

You tried the obvious, like a re-scan?

WHNS History - Mainly COL

I had always thought that WHNS was licensed to Asheville in the not too distant past - and "no" I'm not confusing this with WYCW which is licensed to Asheville. Looking at Wikipedia, the only reference to WHNS and "Asheville" is that WGGS had a translator on ch 21 way back in the day. But looking at FCC Call Sign History, I see that ch 21 had the calls WANC until 1978 - those calls could arguably represent (A)sheville NC. I also have an old "condensed" Broadcasting yearbook (1979, I think) that would fit in a glove compartment and it lists a WANC ch 21 for Asheville. Additionally, I remember as a young child (in the 70s or early 80s) seeing something about a channel 21 on a streetside office sign just west of Beaucatcher Tunnel near downtown. This was likely just a sales office, but it's been so long I don't remember just as I don't remember if I saw WHNS or WANC on that same sign - I just remember the "21". Does anyone have more history on WHNS than what Wikipedia provides, especially COL? Thanks.

Eric

Last night, I've picked up WAGA Fox 5 from Atlanta, GA on Tropospheric Ducting which is about 129 miles from my house. I've watched the repeat newscast from WAGA-TV and feels like I'm in Atlanta, GA since it's a three hour drive from here.

If memory serves, WHNS was originally licensed to Hendersonville (that where the HNS comes from). As the market developed to the south, sometime in the early 90's, they changed the COL.

Yes I rescanned, and they were gone. They came back for a day and were gone again. No signal strength indicated. Will investigate more this weekend, but not really concerned since I have an antenna.

tylerSC, I've picked up two Columbia, SC stations over the air. WIS 10 (the signal is bad), and WOLO 25 (good signal).

Yes, WHNS was licensed to Asheville but was moved to Greenville at some point in the last decade or two.

- Trip

tylerSC,

After months of waiting we decided to install the preamp on the antenna outside later today. Before we installed the antenna, we picked up 7, 21, 38, 40, and 62 which the latter signal is fair. The antenna is facing in NNW direction from my house facing the GSP TV towers. I hope I can pick up 4, 13, 16, 29, and 33 with the RCA preamp.

UPDATE! We installed the preamp guess what, I can only get just PBS station pointing East and nothing else.

What a disappointment and retransmission consent madness have gone crazy in recent days and the NAB don't give a darn. I wish lawmakers abolish retransmission consent, I care about this important issue. Sorry about that. That's how I feel tylerSC.

SpencerKarter, perhaps SCETV Channel 38 is overloading the tuner after installing the preamp. It is your only very strong signal transmitting nearby from Greenwood. Or perhaps the preamp was not installed properly at the antenna. If the balun, preamp, and power supply are not installed correctly, then you will lose reception.

Seems like the pre-amp is shorted out possibly Spencer? Mine acted like yours when it died. I could get the strongest couple of stations, and that was it. If it is working, all channels should be coming in fine.

Have anybody notice that Channel 7 changed their Backdrop again on it newscast. they changed it to a Lighter Blue instead of Dark Blue with Channel 7 on it.

Yes they have a new backdrop as well as new graphics. But I still think the Channel 7 logo with the time and temperature in the bottom corner of the screen is too big and obtrusuve. Should be a bit smaller like most other channels. Right now it is a bit obnoxious clutter. But I get very strong OTA reception of 2 CBS channels, as I get both WSPA-7 and WBTV-3 at 100%.

I loved the new graphics at WSPA 7. Their sister station WCBD in Charleston, SC have the same graphics, and WAGT 26 in Augusta, GA too. But I haven't seen the WJBF 6 one from Augusta, GA yet since WJBF's owners have a local marketing agreement with WAGT's owners.

Speaking of my antenna with preamp, I can get just WSPA 7 over the air, nothing else.

 

Without the ability to generate revenue from retransmission consent agreements, many local TV stations would go out of business or the quality of the programs they carry would have to go down. They would become like low budget independent stations if they survived at all.

 

Do you thing that CBS and FOX could afford to pay big bucks for the rights to air NFL games if they were not sure that the local affiliates would be on the cable systems? No way. And why should the cable companies not have to pay to carry the local stations that air those NFL games? That would be giving away programming for nothing.

 

The fact is that cable is dominant, but retransmission fees at least prop up broadcasting for a little while longer.

 

If people really want to ensure the future of OTA, it might be necessary to have a tax on TV sets and have that tax be used to keep local broadcasting viable.

 

Either that or a massive public relations campaign to explain why broadcasting is superior and cable is inferior.

But the problem with that is that in many areas cable does still provide more reliable reception.

More info on Charter Greenville obtained via CharterDirect on DSLreports ... we're allowed to disseminate the responses, but not look at others posts or answers ... account info is usually included.

I asked: Is a rumor true that before the end of 2012, all receivers in the Greenville SC market will require a box? The (edited) reply was "Thanks for reaching out to verify. We are definitely in the midst of a transition to an all digital service, however I cannot say that it will happen in any market by the end of 2012. Basically, there are specific nodes that are being transitioned, mainly those that contain MDUs (Multi-Dwelling Units) such as apartment complexes, before even beginning planning on anything else." To my question on QAM and my USB tuner, the response was "...I only say that since I can't promise that clear QAM will be around forever, although there has not been any information released internally that it's going away anytime in the near future." He added "I double checked your specific node and it is not planned to go to an all digital platform at this time. If/when plans are made to transition a specific node, we are sending out mailers with at least 30 days notice of the transition to give our customers time to get the necessary equipment."

This fat, deaf, and dumb guy, me followed up with "No other questions, but to clarify for this thick skull ... you are saying that "all-Digital" does not NECESSARILY cause clear QAM to disappear ... which makes complete sense with the QAM signal being digital ... am I interpreting that correctly?"

The response was "Correct, Digital just meaning digital for those channels that are allowed to be unencrypted (Basic Cable). Granted, at the point that a system goes all digital, anything that is not allowed to stay clear (Expanded Basic and above) would require encryption. However, the channels that are currently clear should stay clear at this point.

I'm sure you've heard that the FCC ruled that cable companies can now encrypt all channels if they choose to do so, however we have not been told that this will be occurring on our system. Of course that doesn't mean that it won't happen, just that there have been no plans discussed at this point to do so." which is realistic to me given the times in which we live.

Request for all area Charter TV subscribers. They have a new page for requesting channels. I've been lobbying for BBCA HD for a long time. So if it's not too much trouble, please request it if you have a chance, along with any other requests you may have of course. I'll happily do the same for any channels you want.

HERE's the link:
http://community.charter.com/t5/Channel-Requests/ct-p/ChannelRequest

Thanks

I am now receiving all the the local clear qam channels again, so I guess Charter corrected the problem.

Guess who made an appearance on NBC Nightly News earlier tonight covering Hurricane Sandy? Yep, former Greenville/Spartanburg newsman Chris Cato (who's now at NBC O&O WCAU in Philly) covering Hurricane Sandy in Southern New Jersey. I was surprised to see him on national television.

Veedom, Retransmission Consent is a broken system and it's too controversial and common these days.

If you have Directv and on Channel 325 He is coverage the Hurricane Sandy Coverage on WCAU NBC 4 as Directv is broadcasting some of the Local Stations that is coverage Hurricane Sandy aftermath. in up and down Northern East Coast

WCAU is Channel 10, not 4.

Excuse me.