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post #9541 of 10293
Of course it is more than enough. You could probably split it to sixteen or may even 32 TV sets. Way overkill for two, but if it does no harm, then it doesn't matter.
post #9542 of 10293
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Time to pony up for a Tivo Premiere with "lifetime" subscription. frown.gif
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Your antenna has to be precisely aimed for fringe reception, as the Premiere doesn't handle error correction and multipath as well as the TiVo HD and other tuners. And I have to use a Gaffney, SC zip code to receive full program listings for both Charlotte and Asheville/Greenville-Spartanburg markets.

My TiVo arrived on Friday and I set it up over the weekend. It turns out that my ZIP code (29325) gives me program guide data for G/Sp/A, most of the Charlotte and Columbia stations, and even a couple of Augusta stations. Even though I did the initial setup with my antennas pointed towards Greenville, I could enable the Charlotte and Columbia stations in Settings --> Channels --> Channel List, and then tune those stations after rotating my antenna.

Apparently TiVo includes the RF channel <--> virtual channel mapping in its guide data, unlike every other tuner I've used, which uses the PSIP data from the RF channels that it actually receives.

I can get all the stations that I got regularly with the Sony DVRs, so I'm a happy camper, so far. biggrin.gif
post #9543 of 10293
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My TiVo arrived on Friday and I set it up over the weekend. It turns out that my ZIP code (29325) gives me program guide data for G/Sp/A, most of the Charlotte and Columbia stations, and even a couple of Augusta stations. Even though I did the initial setup with my antennas pointed towards Greenville, I could enable the Charlotte and Columbia stations in Settings --> Channels --> Channel List, and then tune those stations after rotating my antenna.
Apparently TiVo includes the RF channel <--> virtual channel mapping in its guide data, unlike every other tuner I've used, which uses the PSIP data from the RF channels that it actually receives.
I can get all the stations that I got regularly with the Sony DVRs, so I'm a happy camper, so far. biggrin.gif
Do you have cable connected to your TiVo, or just OTA? And I am guessing they may give you guide data for the Dallas signals but not WSOC and WCCB. But if you contact tech support they can add listings for those channels or others you may be missing.
post #9544 of 10293
For those of you who watch whatever programming is left there, channel 40 is now live in HD on DirecTV. I'm not sure when it went live, I just happened to notice today as I was flipping through channels, as my box is set to "Hide SD duplicates" and suddenly channel 40 was out of the rotation. This is definitely a positive development for those times that WLOS shuffles off ACC sports programming over to WMYA.

-c
post #9545 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Do you have cable connected to your TiVo, or just OTA?

Just OTA.
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And I am guessing they may give you guide data for the Dallas signals but not WSOC and WCCB. But if you contact tech support they can add listings for those channels or others you may be missing.

They give me all the Dallas signals (WBTV, WCNC, WJZY, WMYT) plus WCCB and WNSC (SCETV in Rock Hill). And WUNE way up in Linville, which I can never see because it's on the same RF channel as WLTX (CBS) in Columbia. I watch the 10 PM news on WCCB occasionally, so that one comes in handy. I don't get WSOC or any of the other Charlotte stations not mentioned, often enough to be worth getting guide data for.

Thanks for the tip about having tech support add missing channels. I suppose they can do that because each customer has an individual account which allows things like scheduling recordings online. I might have them add WRLK (SCETV) in Columbia because I can get it reliably like WIS and WOLO.
post #9546 of 10293
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Originally Posted by cruxer View Post

For those of you who watch whatever programming is left there, channel 40 is now live in HD on DirecTV. I'm not sure when it went live, I just happened to notice today as I was flipping through channels, as my box is set to "Hide SD duplicates" and suddenly channel 40 was out of the rotation. This is definitely a positive development for those times that WLOS shuffles off ACC sports programming over to WMYA.
-c
ACC sports programming is also carried in HD on WBTV and WJZY if you have an outside antenna. But good that it is now available on WMYA on DirecTV.
post #9547 of 10293
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Originally Posted by jtbell View Post

Just OTA.
They give me all the Dallas signals (WBTV, WCNC, WJZY, WMYT) plus WCCB and WNSC (SCETV in Rock Hill). And WUNE way up in Linville, which I can never see because it's on the same RF channel as WLTX (CBS) in Columbia. I watch the 10 PM news on WCCB occasionally, so that one comes in handy. I don't get WSOC or any of the other Charlotte stations not mentioned, often enough to be worth getting guide data for.
Thanks for the tip about having tech support add missing channels. I suppose they can do that because each customer has an individual account which allows things like scheduling recordings online. I might have them add WRLK (SCETV) in Columbia because I can get it reliably like WIS and WOLO.[/quote Interesting that you get WCCB better than WSOC, since they both broadcast from the same general location, and both are full power. At my location near Mauldin, I receive WSOC 9.1 a good bit of the time in late evenings, overnight, and early mornings. I seldom see WCCB except sometimes at night. And I also get the 9.5 translator most of the time on RF30, but only at one to three bars during the day. But I think WCCB may have a side mounted or directional antenna that may give them a stronger signal towards your location in Clinton.
post #9548 of 10293
WCNC had an interesting Travel Cam as they had a reporter drive up 85 from Greer to Charlotte filming live traffic conditions along the way. Despite a heavy traffic day, traffic appeared to be running smoothly, although slow at times. The worst congestion was on 77 around Charlotte. And all the stations had reporters at the major airports. I have an idea 85 was probably more of a parking lot between Commerce, GA and Atlanta. That's usually the case.
post #9549 of 10293
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Originally Posted by ProjectSHO89 View Post

Of course it is more than enough. You could probably split it to sixteen or may even 32 TV sets. Way overkill for two, but if it does no harm, then it doesn't matter.
10 or 12db is probably enough. I installed a new Motorola amp with a gain of 15db and am getting better results and higher signal strength. I have it set up like a preamp with a remote power supply, and it claims an increase of 32 times signal strength. That's probably marketing hype, but it does appear to be a very good amp with better design circuitry. It is BDA-S1 model, and I believe the noise figure is around 2.5. But overall the signal to noise ratio seems to be better, as my weak channels are no longer pixelating or dropping out. Split with 2 TVs.
post #9550 of 10293
Could anyone recommend a good antenna installer in the Greenville/Simpsonville area? Can't do the roof thing myself ...

Thanks!
post #9551 of 10293
tylerSC,

WYFF 4 had technical problems at around 2am while airing the repeat of the Today Show's 4th hour (which they don't carry in the mornings) and I've checked the SD feed on D* and it was working fine, but HD version wasn't working fine, also same story for over the air on 4.1 too with a blank screen. What's going on at Channel 4?

Luckily, I've picked up nearly every single Columbia, SC TV station over the air also including WIS 10 as my back-up.

BTW, I've finally got a D* HD-DVR this week so I could record my shows and some from the Greenville, SC locals too.

UPDATE It's back on the air.
post #9552 of 10293
I work at night so was not watching WYFF4 at that time. But glad the problem was corrected. And I normally watch Kathie Lee and Hoda live in the mornings on WCNC 36.1 when I choose to. I don't like the way WYFF delays the 3rd hour of the Today show and preempts the 4th hour just to make room for Kelly Ripa and Michael program. Most markets air that show on the ABC affiliate, and it was better with Regis.
post #9553 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

I work at night so was not watching WYFF4 at that time. But glad the problem was corrected. And I normally watch Kathie Lee and Hoda live in the mornings on WCNC 36.1 when I choose to. I don't like the way WYFF delays the 3rd hour of the Today show and preempts the 4th hour just to make room for Kelly Ripa and Michael program. Most markets air that show on the ABC affiliate, and it was better with Regis.

tylerSC, ABC O&O station WLS-TV in Chicago doesn't air Kelly & Michael, WGN (not the superstation) airs it instead. Stations like WMC in Memphis, KPRC in Houston and WDIV in Detroit preempt KLG and Hoda the opposite way (they preempt the 2am/1am CT repeats). In New Orleans, CBS station WWL (where Hoda Kotb used to work) doesn't air CBS This Morning, it's seen instead on their MNT affiliate.
post #9554 of 10293
Kelly and Michael Show is produced by Disney/ABC but not all ABC stations carry the program in syndication. Although many do. Same with Katie Couric show.
post #9555 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Kelly and Michael Show is produced by Disney/ABC but not all ABC stations carry the program in syndication. Although many do. Same with Katie Couric show.

In this market all the major stations at one time or another have carried LIVE! with Regis/Kathy Lee/Kelly/Michael show in its 30 year run even though it has always originated at WABC New York. We air Katie even though we are a FOX affiliate. That is why it is called syndication and not network.
post #9556 of 10293
I understand it's a station's choice regarding syndication shows. I just don't like the way WYFF4 disrupts the Today show to air Kelly and Michael and then they don't air the 4th hour with Kathie Lee and Hoda at all. Which is why I appreciate OTA as an alternative choice so I can watch WCNC 36.1 if I choose to. Although at that 10am hour I sometimes may watch the local Jack Roper and Kimberly show on WSPA instead.
post #9557 of 10293
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

I understand it's a station's choice regarding syndication shows. I just don't like the way WYFF4 disrupts the Today show to air Kelly and Michael and then they don't air the 4th hour with Kathie Lee and Hoda at all. Which is why I appreciate OTA as an alternative choice so I can watch WCNC 36.1 if I choose to. Although at that 10am hour I sometimes may watch the local Jack Roper and Kimberly show on WSPA instead.

The Hearst station here is also a NBC affiliate and it too pre-empts the 9AM hour with Live! and then back to Today.
post #9558 of 10293
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The Hearst station here is also a NBC affiliate and it too pre-empts the 9AM hour with Live! and then back to Today.

You mean WXII 12? Former KNBC anchorman John Beard used to work there in the 1970s.

BTW, I've picked up a CW affiliate from Greensboro, NC OTA once at my house in Greenwood, SC. Last night, I've picked up every single Columbia, SC TV stations OTA (including WZRB 47).
post #9559 of 10293
I've recently moved to the Seneca/Clemson area and subscribe to Northland cable. I've found the following HD channels via my TV's built-in tuner. Can someone please fill in the blanks or point me to a resource where I can find the missing information? Thanks in advance!!

WYFF (NBC) = 64.1
WSPA (CBS) = 63.11
WNTV (PBS) = 64.11
WHNS (FOX) = 63.3
WLOS (ABC) = 67.1
FOOD = 71.1
HGTV = 71.2
ESPN = 65.2
ESPN U = 73.2
GOLF = 72.1
E! = 73.1
FOX Business = 77.1
SPEED = 74.1
OUTDOOR = 67.2
NBC Sports = 72.2
Fox News =
CNBC =
National Geographic =
USA =
TBS =
TNT =
FOX Sports South =
Sports South =
ESN2 =
post #9560 of 10293
None of those are going to be in the clear on your TV's HD tuner. You'll need a cable box (or cable-card tuner) to get them in HD. Sorry.

HERE's a good resource for looking up digital channels. Be sure to pick your provider/source from the drop down to get the right list.
post #9561 of 10293
Hello All!

As you may have heard, Charter will no longer have a customer care team tasked, specifically, with resolving matters raised on Social Media. The good news is there are other jobs available within Charter for all of the Social Media team members.

As is our nature, we wanted to provide you with a timeline of how we will execute this transition.

Monday, December 10, 2012: We will no longer respond to posts that we discover while conducting Charter searches. We will, however, continue to respond to Private Messages until Saturday, December 15th.

Friday, December 14, 2012 (5pm): All the Umatter2Charter accounts (which includes: Umatter2Charter, Twitter's @Charter, all our individual accounts, as well as the Umatter2Charter Facebook page, other Forum accounts, and accounts on Consumer Advocate Sites) will be removed. Charter will continue to have a presence in Social Media spaces via @CharterCom, Facebook.com/CharterCom, and Youtube.com/CharterCom.

Monday, December 31, 2012: We will transition to our new roles. If there are any outstanding issues on the 31st, we will refer them to the appropriate departments for follow-up and resolution.

It has been our pleasure to work with all of you.

Josh Chapman
Social Media Supervisor
post #9562 of 10293
Umatter Team,

Though I only get internet via Charter these days after having switched to D* about 2 years ago, I am sad to hear about this development. I have continued to read this thread and keep up with Charter's improvements in HD offerings. I have greatly benefited from the UMatter team in the past and much much much preferred to get help/service via that avenue than via uniformed and unhelpful phone calls/operators.

Good luck in all of your future positions and thanks again for the past help and great service you provided.
post #9563 of 10293
One of the few things Charter does right and is good for the consumer, they are killing off. Honestly I'm not shocked at all.
post #9564 of 10293
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One of the few things Charter does right and is good for the consumer, they are killing off. Honestly I'm not shocked at all.
Customer service with cablecos has never been very good. The Umattertocharter was a rare exception, as they were quite courteous, responsive, and helpful. Sorry to see them go.
post #9565 of 10293
Looks like we are having our monthly ESPN HD (channel 808) audio/video dropout issue. It's been two days now. And since Charter phone support no help and Charter killed off the social media team, I guess we will just have to live without watching ESPN HD until they get around to fixing it. Nothing like Charter customer service. This happens every month for days at a time. Yet, Charter continues to be clueless.
post #9566 of 10293
I also noticed that over the past several weeks that OTA WYFF has occasionally disappeared from the air during the evening news around 5-6pm or so. It only lasts for a minute or so and then they return as if nothing happened .


Another thing the FCC recently passed rules that mandate that ad spots volumes MUST not be higher than the programming itself.

I have still noticed that it appears that stations are compressing the audio during as spots which results in louder or brighter sound, and it sounds just like the overall volume is STILL louder. Anyone else notice this? If it continues I will make a complaint to the FCC, since they are not going to monitor stations themselves but count on viewers to report possible violations.

I'm not going to name the specific stations in the hope that they will take note and change the compression settings in the next several weeks.
post #9567 of 10293
@Josh @ Charter:

I will greatly miss your teams help, the Umatter2Charter group was exceptional at solving any problems in an efficient, timely manner.

It's too bad the new CEO, Tom Rutledge, seems not to care about customers as the previous CEO did.
post #9568 of 10293
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I have still noticed that it appears that stations are compressing the audio during as spots which results in louder or brighter sound, and it sounds just like the overall volume is STILL louder. Anyone else notice this? If it continues I will make a complaint to the FCC, since they are not going to monitor stations themselves but count on viewers to report possible violations.

I'm not going to name the specific stations in the hope that they will take note and change the compression settings in the next several weeks.

Dubber, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a station can completely meet the letter of the law of the CALM Act (and now we are required by law to have a way to prove what our audio level is at any time the station is on the air) and still sound like some audio is louder than others. It is the law of sonics. Congress is trying to herd fleas on this one.
post #9569 of 10293
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Originally Posted by foxeng View Post

Dubber, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but a station can completely meet the letter of the law of the CALM Act (and now we are required by law to have a way to prove what our audio level is at any time the station is on the air) and still sound like some audio is louder than others. It is the law of sonics. Congress is trying to herd fleas on this one.

Agreed 100% here.. Personally, I have a much better solution to loud commercials.. the MUTE button works wonders! and every remote has one!.. not only does it end the loud commercials, but I don't have to listen to the stupid idiotic crap that is on air and being passed off as advertising..biggrin.gif
post #9570 of 10293
My DXing/Tropo experience: I've picked up WCIV 4 RF 34 (ABC) from Charleston, SC earlier tonight at my house in Greenwood, SC. The towers in Awendaw, SC is about 162 miles from my house. So far, it's the third Lowcountry TV station I've picked up so far besides WCSC and WTAT.
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