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post #9631 of 10303
Anyone in Asheville seeing WASV-LD 50-1 on the air?

- Trip
post #9632 of 10303
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Originally Posted by sevendustweb View Post

Random question. This may have been answered before, but I cannot find the answer anywhere. I live in Spartanburg, SC. I just moved here from Charleston where I was using Comcast. I have an HTPC running a Ceton InfiniTV tuner. When Charter came to install yesterday, they brought a red Motorola CableCard. They said it was a multistream card, and while I will agree that a 2 stream Cablecard can be branded as "multistream," it does not serve my needs when I have a tuner that can support 4 streams at once.

My Charter tech said the company only offers this type of CableCard. He said that the Company has not rolled out the technology to allow for more than 2 streams per CableCard. He then tried to sell me on a Charter DVR, which would of course record more than 2 streams at once. Currently, I have 1 tuning adapter installed. If I try and change channels, I often get an error about HDCP. I know the error is incorrect as my video card and TV (both of which were used on the Comcast network with no problems) are HDCP compliant. I wonder whether I need two (2) tuning adapters installed.

I told the tech that they are being left in the dust by Comcast (who offered a true multistream CableCard, albeit with a lot of complaining from me).

Does anyone on this forum use a Cablecard in the Spartanburg/Greenville area? if so, do you use Charter? Does anyone have a true multistream Cablecard in use? Without question, this process is absolutely painful. All I want is a CableCard that works. Yes, I have submitted a ticket to Ceton, but I wanted to check here and get your thoughts as well.

Thanks!
I have Charter and need a cable card and tuning adapter that works with TiVo. Need to check them out because only get clear qam locals in HD. But also use an OTA antenna for locals and Charlotte. And in Spartanburg, you could get good reception of most Charlotte channels with a good UHF antenna and preamp. But will definitely need to inquire about a cable card.
post #9633 of 10303
Crossing my fingers, but after doing some troubleshooting with Ceton last night, it appears my CableCard may be working now. Currently, I can record 4 shows at once.

Hopefully, my CableCard issues are over with Charter.
post #9634 of 10303
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Originally Posted by sevendustweb View Post

Random question. This may have been answered before, but I cannot find the answer anywhere. I live in Spartanburg, SC. I just moved here from Charleston where I was using Comcast. I have an HTPC running a Ceton InfiniTV tuner. When Charter came to install yesterday, they brought a red Motorola CableCard. They said it was a multistream card, and while I will agree that a 2 stream Cablecard can be branded as "multistream," it does not serve my needs when I have a tuner that can support 4 streams at once.

My Charter tech said the company only offers this type of CableCard. He said that the Company has not rolled out the technology to allow for more than 2 streams per CableCard. He then tried to sell me on a Charter DVR, which would of course record more than 2 streams at once. Currently, I have 1 tuning adapter installed. If I try and change channels, I often get an error about HDCP. I know the error is incorrect as my video card and TV (both of which were used on the Comcast network with no problems) are HDCP compliant. I wonder whether I need two (2) tuning adapters installed.

I told the tech that they are being left in the dust by Comcast (who offered a true multistream CableCard, albeit with a lot of complaining from me).

Does anyone on this forum use a Cablecard in the Spartanburg/Greenville area? if so, do you use Charter? Does anyone have a true multistream Cablecard in use? Without question, this process is absolutely painful. All I want is a CableCard that works. Yes, I have submitted a ticket to Ceton, but I wanted to check here and get your thoughts as well.

Thanks!

Don't ever listen to a Charter tech try to tell you anything about a cablecard. All m-cards can decode up to 6 streams. The only limiting factor has been tuning adapters (which Charter requires in SC). But all of Charters tuning adapters support 6 streams through the latest firmware update so it isn't an issue anymore.

Once you get a m-card and a tuning adapter don't let the tech leave with it even if it doesn't work. The tuning adapter is usually easy to activate but the cablecard can be troublesome. If the card isn't being shown as activated, try calling them and give them the serial #, host and data ids. That is all they need to properly initialize and authorize a card.
post #9635 of 10303
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Originally Posted by sevendustweb View Post

Crossing my fingers, but after doing some troubleshooting with Ceton last night, it appears my CableCard may be working now. Currently, I can record 4 shows at once.

Hopefully, my CableCard issues are over with Charter.
Glad it worked out. I also have a 4-tuner Ceton with a Charter m-card and tuning adapter in the Greenville/Spartanburg area and it has been working fine for about a year now. Initial setup and activation did take a lot of effort though since most of the Charter folks on the phone were clueless.
post #9636 of 10303
tylerSC,

Which new antenna do you suggest to me to get?

1.)Winegard Flat-Wave FL5500A Indoor Amplified Antenna that has the maximum mileage of 50 miles (DTV.gov signal levels: Strong, Moderate, Weak)
2.)Winegard HD7698P Outdoor Antenna sans low-VHF that has the maximum mileage of 65 miles (DTV.gov signal levels: Strong, Moderate, Weak)
3.)Winegard HD8200U Long Range Outdoor Antenna that has the maximum mileage of 65 miles (DTV.gov signal levels: Strong, Moderate, Weak)

If I had chose an outdoor antenna, which preamp do you suggest?

1.)Winegard AP-8700
2.)Winegard AP-8275

The only strongest signal in my location is WNEH 38 (South Carolina ETV/PBS), most of the Greenville, SC locals and adjacent Augusta, GA locals are moderate signals in my location, and some Columbia, SC locals are weak in my location according to the http://www.DTV.gov/maps
post #9637 of 10303
As I have said before, the Winegard 7698 would be the best antenna for your needs SpencerKarter. And the 8700 preamp. Also they have a more powerful 8275 amp you could consider. As for the new amped Flatwave, it is similar to Mohu Leaf Ultimate but would work best in more suburban areas. Not likely the best choice for your location. But I may go over to Costco and see if they have it in stock yet.
post #9638 of 10303
They are having major tech probs today on WSPA 7.2 as MeTV keeps going to black screen and it comes back then interupted by commercials out of place. Trying to watch Lucy. No prob with signal strength and 7.1 is fine.
post #9639 of 10303
Now in the middle of Lucy they just interupted and switched to SEC women's basketball on 7.2. Very annoying and ridiculous. And according to PSIP, they are supposed to be showing Lucy and MeTV. Something got screwed up somewhere. And I would rather watch Lucy. Plus that same game is on WSOC 9.5 in full HD if I really wanted to see it with much better pic quality.
post #9640 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Now in the middle of Lucy they just interupted and switched to SEC women's basketball on 7.2. Very annoying and ridiculous. And according to PSIP, they are supposed to be showing Lucy and MeTV. Something got screwed up somewhere. And I would rather watch Lucy. Plus that same game is on WSOC 9.5 in full HD if I really wanted to see it with much better pic quality.

They should correct the PSIP if they going show SEC Women basketball i wish they would put the SEC Basketball on 62.1 instead of have it on 7.2 they should preempt 62.2 to show the Basketball. it may not be any better next month when the play off starts they will preempt the weekday afternoon schedule.for the tournaments and i`ll missed my show Emergency unless i keep mess with my indoor antenna and try get WCCB 18.3 come in..
post #9641 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Now in the middle of Lucy they just interupted and switched to SEC women's basketball on 7.2. Very annoying and ridiculous. And according to PSIP, they are supposed to be showing Lucy and MeTV. Something got screwed up somewhere. And I would rather watch Lucy. Plus that same game is on WSOC 9.5 in full HD if I really wanted to see it with much better pic quality.

They should correct the PSIP if they going show SEC Women basketball i wish they would put the SEC Basketball on 62.1 instead of have it on 7.2 they should preempt 62.2 to show the Basketball. it may not be any better next month when the play off starts they will preempt the weekday afternoon schedule.for the tournaments and i`ll missed my show Emergency unless i keep mess with my indoor antenna and try get WCCB 18.3 come in..

LMAOROF!
post #9642 of 10303
They are threatening to drop 13-WLOS from DirecTV again. But I suppose they may come to some sort of last minute agreement as they always seem to do. Although an OTA antenna is a good option, but WLOS can be problematic to receive in parts of the Upstate. But it can be done with a bit more strategic work. Also WSOC in certain areas, especially Spartanburg.
post #9643 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

They are threatening to drop 13-WLOS from DirecTV again. But I suppose they may come to some sort of last minute agreement as they always seem to do. Although an OTA antenna is a good option, but WLOS can be problematic to receive in parts of the Upstate. But it can be done with a bit more strategic work. Also WSOC in certain areas, especially Spartanburg.

I wish congress would reform the retransmission consent regime. You're right, if a deal not reached by March 1st, no more ABC programming and MNT programming which means no Wheel and J!, DWTS, Scandal, and Grey's Anatomy on ABC 13 and no more Jerry Springer, Maury, Steve Wilkos, Family Feud on MY40. For those who live in fringe areas, they might get denied access to ABC programming unless picking up over the air from WOLO 25 in Columbia, SC, or WSOC in Charlotte, NC, or WSB in Atlanta, GA, or WJBF in Augusta, GA. When will Congress break the Retransmission Consent curse (sorry I said the c word, you know I'm superstitious about it).

For more on the controversial law go to http://www.americantelevisionalliance.org for details.

Imagine a world without Darcell Grimes, Tammy Wafford, and ABC 13?
post #9644 of 10303
I don't watch 13 very much because I am fortunate enough to just be able to grab onto WSOC Channel 9 a good bit of the time. But I do have WLOS as a stable back up for ABC should I need it. But for both ABC stations, it did take a bit of strategic work to receive OTA. Unlike WBTV, WSPA, and WYFF4 which are quite easy to receive.
post #9645 of 10303
Was just watching the short videocast of the weather today on WYFF4.com and what do you know.....There is Meteorologist JEFF MORROW,from "The Weather Channel" doing the local weather !!!!!


So is Jeff joining WYFF4..or was he doing this as a fill in due to a shortage of weathercasters at the station? I'm not disappointed that Kim Quintero no longer is doing the weather or much else as she is plain annoying with that terrible voice.

Frankly I am shocked at the STUPID moves that The Weather Channel has made ever since they bought TWC from Landmark Communications. Jeff Morrow was let go around October 12, 2012. They have gutted the best on cam meteorologist,s with only rare exceptions like Dr. Forbes. I almost never watch TWC anymore since 90% of the time they have some idiotic reality show like Cantore Stories on....It's a Weather Channel. DO THE WEATHER!

I always liked Jeff when on the Weather Channel, a competent, and well accomplished meteorologist, who can present well, and is pleasant to listen to and watch. I hope he's is going to be hired ASAP!

I know that Kisha Kirkland has cancer and is suffering terribly, it is obvious when she is on the air that she is in quite a bit of discomfort,and I feel bad for her but it is really disturbing to watch her now as you can feel the pain she is in. I hope she can make a recovery.



Now if they can get rid of that new field reporter they just put on air.....
Parul Joshi...she too is horrible, her english diction is poor, and it makes her difficult to understand....My guess is that she is an EEOC hire. Actually Ms. Joshi is WORSE than Kim Quintero because at least you could understand her
Edited by dubber - 2/23/13 at 6:38pm
post #9646 of 10303
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Originally Posted by SpencerKarter85 View Post

Imagine a world without Darcell Grimes, Tammy Wafford, and ABC 13?

Jesus H dude. Its not like Osama Bin Laden is gonna come back from the dead and blow up the building. It will still be there after 3/1. Most people will just turn to another station to watch the news.
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no more Jerry Springer, Maury, Steve Wilkos, Family Feud on MY40.
oh no what will the welfare recipients living in the trailer park watch?

Sinclair is the one to blame. EVERY TIME a retrans agreement comes up they play this same crap. If the stations get pulled life goes on. No need to play the "DEFCON 5" game like you did when Viacrap got pulled from Directv where the world was going to end because D* subs couldn't watch DeCrappy on Teennick
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

They are threatening to drop 13-WLOS from DirecTV again. But I suppose they may come to some sort of last minute agreement as they always seem to do. Although an OTA antenna is a good option, but WLOS can be problematic to receive in parts of the Upstate. But it can be done with a bit more strategic work. Also WSOC in certain areas, especially Spartanburg.

I wish congress would reform the retransmission consent regime. You're right, if a deal not reached by March 1st, no more ABC programming and MNT programming which means no Wheel and J!, DWTS, Scandal, and Grey's Anatomy on ABC 13 and no more Jerry Springer, Maury, Steve Wilkos, Family Feud on MY40. For those who live in fringe areas, they might get denied access to ABC programming unless picking up over the air from WOLO 25 in Columbia, SC, or WSOC in Charlotte, NC, or WSB in Atlanta, GA, or WJBF in Augusta, GA. When will Congress break the Retransmission Consent curse (sorry I said the c word, you know I'm superstitious about it).

For more on the controversial law go to http://www.americantelevisionalliance.org for details.

Imagine a world without Darcell Grimes, Tammy Wafford, and ABC 13?

 

If you're trying to convince us that the broadcasters are being unreasonable by wanting to get paid for the permission to carry their signals, you certainly haven't convinced me. If a cable company has to pay Disney for the right to carry ESPN, why shouldn't it also have to pay a local ABC affiliate for the right to carry that affiliate's signal?

 

Do you want local broadcasting to just go out of business so that Disney can convert ABC into a cable channel, just like ESPN, and not have to bother with those pesky local ABC affiliates?

 

I hope that you do know that the "American Television Alliance" is just a lobbying effort and propaganda effort by the cable industry. (Look at all the cable companies that are listed as "alliance partners".)

 

The cable and satellite industries seem to have an entitlement mentality.

They think they are entitled to carry, without paying for it, all of the programming (including local news) that the local TV stations broadcast.

post #9648 of 10303
Truth is every time a major station (Big 4) is pulled form a cable company, within a short time, the cable company caves. Why? Simply, the cableco starts to loose subscribers. That translates into dollars lost as subs go to find the station via other reception vehicles. As an OTA station, unlike a cable only station, the viewer has options to continue to receive the OTA station that range from antenna (free) to other MVPDs (cost). When a cableco looses a subscriber, they are usually gone for a long time if not forever (lost revenue). When TWC got into the retrans fight with Hearst last year, TWC lost that one on several fronts. TWC did everything they could to keep programming on, even illegally piping in other companies stations of the same network to fill the void which caused even more legal problems for TWC. While the stations took a small hit, for TWC the PR hit for illegally piping in other stations, as well as dollars lost were much more and within a month TWC caved as pressure built up to restore the stations. The cablecos always lose.

The mindset with the cablecos is they are still the only player in the room when in reality, they are only one of many players in the market place and when they pick a fight with a station who has a majority of viewers for 75 cent a sub verses ESPN that runs for more than $4 a sub with only a fraction of the viewers, the cablecos have no one but themselves to blame. They let Disney snooker them with ESPN. That is why the cablecos always loose. The ROI is WAY out of balance.

And that is the reality of the situation. Legislation isn't going to fix that. That is why Congress hasn't touched it. It isn't a win for them. This is simply the Free Market at work. Sometimes you really don't want to see how the sausage is made. And that is the case here.
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post #9650 of 10303
As far as I can tell, TV stations should be wanting to deliver eyeballs to their advertisers. I'd think it logical for them to want all the penetration they could get. Perhaps they should be paying the cablecos and satellite providers for increasing their viewership. Or am I the only one who sees it that way?
post #9651 of 10303
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Originally Posted by chroma601 View Post

As far as I can tell, TV stations should be wanting to deliver eyeballs to their advertisers. I'd think it logical for them to want all the penetration they could get. Perhaps they should be paying the cablecos and satellite providers for increasing their viewership. Or am I the only one who sees it that way?

 

Apparently the cable providers and the satellite providers don't think that way, because year after year they agree to pay retransmission consent fees. They don't have to do that. They could just tell the local stations that if they want to be carried on the system, then they will just have to invoke "must carry" status and agree not to receive any payments for retransmission of their channels. I think every couple of years a station has to tel the FCC whether it wants to be a "must carry" station or whether it wants to be a station that sells retransmission rights.

post #9652 of 10303
The retrans fees is why many stations are no longer carried on cable in fringe areas of neighboring markets. Used to be WBTV was on cable in Spartanburg and Asheville, and WSPA was on cable in Charlotte. And WFMY, WGHP, and WXII on cable in Concord. But not anymore. Some cable and sat services still carry neighboring market signals in certain areas, but for some aggravating reason it is not retransmitted in HD. Which is why I recommend an OTA antenna to supplement cable/sat and to receive more regional market channels.
post #9653 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

The retrans fees is why many stations are no longer carried on cable in fringe areas of neighboring markets..

Not really.., it has more to do with the network non-duplication and syndicated exclusivity rules as well as significantly viewed rules.
post #9654 of 10303
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Not really.., it has more to do with the network non-duplication and syndicated exclusivity rules as well as significantly viewed rules.
Well that may be the case, but as a result there are indeed fewer out of market channels carried these days. Which is why it is good to have an antenna.
post #9655 of 10303
SpencerKarter you should be pleased that the Wendy Williams Show is now carried on WMYA-40. Maybe not recent news, but just noticed it this morning. Maybe they heard your concerns.
post #9656 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

Now in the middle of Lucy they just interupted and switched to SEC women's basketball on 7.2. Very annoying and ridiculous. And according to PSIP, they are supposed to be showing Lucy and MeTV. Something got screwed up somewhere. And I would rather watch Lucy. Plus that same game is on WSOC 9.5 in full HD if I really wanted to see it with much better pic quality.


I emailed WSPA's Program Director about a METV Program and she also said after the SEC Basketball Tournments is over in few weeks will they will no longer be interupted METV Program for SEC Basketball so i guess this their last year of their SEC Network contract
post #9657 of 10303
Wow, It looks like I'll be leaving DirecTV for Morris Broadband cable. For a few bucks less they are offering a lot more channels, and the internet bundling really helps. Didn't think I'd go back to cable, but it's looking like more bang for the buck. I've been pretty happy with D's service, but this seems to be a better deal.

This has nothing to do with the fee fight. Just a better deal.
post #9658 of 10303
Directv has become just another greedy provider, where ten to fifteen yrs ago, they were q leader in picture sound quality &$
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Originally Posted by jspENC View Post

Directv has become just another greedy provider, where ten to fifteen yrs ago, they were q leader in picture sound quality &$

few years ago when i first got Directv i was paying about $40 and now it has Double.
post #9660 of 10303
Yeah, I finally dropped Direct last month and glad I did! Two years ago I was paying $29.95 for 200 channels (which I told the Rep. it was too good to be true) with the understanding after a year it would go up $15 wich was great. Well for 23 months the bill was never right. Long story short, when my contract expired it was $98.00 and they never could give me a satisfactory answer! I will NEVER go back to Direct! I was with Dish for 10 years before them and I could count on the bill always being the same every month.
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