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post #9931 of 10303
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Originally Posted by Valkster View Post

Yes you have a point about the big ones, maybe this is cutting edge technology! lol, Yes I'll be sure to let y'all know. Can you recommend a good place to order with a good return policy and quick shipping? So far Winegard Direct, Solid Signal have the best prices. I know the local TV guy has to make a living but he wants $89.00 when they're like $48 shipped!eek.gif
I've tried similar antennas myself and they work about the same as a good set of amplified rabbit ears, a little better since it's located outside and supposedly omnidirectional. But if I had poor reception like you, I'd definitely go bigger.

I've always had good experiences with Solid Signal, but return shipping is going to cost you no matter who you buy from.
post #9932 of 10303
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Anything that small is going to be complete crap. However, if you are in Greenville, even a coat hanger will get you just about everything local but WLOS.
Yes all local signals are strong in Greenville. But some folks have difficulty with 13-WLOS. That signal can be problematic in the Upstate. But most folks have a poor choice indoor antenna and that is the problem. I have a set of rabbit ears in the attic that I got from RadioShack. No UHF loop. And it gets all the locals at about 100% when connected to a preamp. Including 13, and of course 7 and 9(29). And also the UHF channels 4, 21, and 62. But I use a Holland UHF-VHF signal combiner to add a Channel Master UHF antenna to get a strong signal from Charlotte. All connected to a Kitztech 200 low noise preamp. I think the Kitztech may perform slightly better than the original CM-7777 it replaced.
post #9933 of 10303
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Originally Posted by Valkster View Post

Has any one tried this one? Winegard MS2002 Metrostar VHF/UHF Amplified Omnidirectional TV Antenna (MS-2002)
You may consider trying a similar version of this omnidirectional style antenna from RadioShack. Then you could more easily return and avoid shipping. They have several versions made by Antennacraft. But if I were ordering from Winegard, I would consider the new Flatwave Air amplified antenna. It was a special deal last week for $74 from Solid Signal, but their regular price is $99. But still cheaper than $129 elsewhere.
post #9934 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

I have had very good luck with Solid Signal, but you may want to give them a call and inquire about their return policy. I would order whoever has the best price including shipping. And you may want to ask if that antenna is the one with the add on element for better UHF reception. I think it is called Wingman. But you stated 3 concerns: Surrounded by trees, mountains, in a valley. Could be part of the problem. Or if you are near Caesar's Head or Hogback, you could be getting too strong a signal and overloading the tuner. Some tuners tolerate overload and multipath better than others. Something is causing the problem somewhere. Do you have the matching transformer/balun connected to the antenna correctly?

Thanks for the advice. It seems a lot of ppl in my town has the reception problem. The funny thing is at one time I was getting all the channels and can't figure why I'm having all this trouble. I wasn't getting what you are but at least was getting 4,7,13,16,21,29,40,62 with their split channels.Yes the transformer that came with the antenna is connected to the tv with new cable and no spitters- very simple and I even added 5' of mast.,,,,and that's what's driving me nuts! lol.

Ha, I talked to Tech and gave them my zip and here's what they said "I'm not sure any antenna would work in your situation but if any did, I'm sure the Sensar would."

Now that's scary! Lol
post #9935 of 10303
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Originally Posted by Valkster View Post

Thanks for the advice. It seems a lot of ppl in my town has the reception problem. The funny thing is at one time I was getting all the channels and can't figure why I'm having all this trouble. I wasn't getting what you are but at least was getting 4,7,13,16,21,29,40,62 with their split channels.Yes the transformer that came with the antenna is connected to the tv with new cable and no spitters- very simple and I even added 5' of mast.,,,,and that's what's driving me nuts! lol.

Ha, I talked to Tech and gave them my zip and here's what they said "I'm not sure any antenna would work in your situation but if any did, I'm sure the Sensar would."

Now that's scary! Lol
The transformer does not connect to the TV, if I understood you correctly. That could be your problem. The transformer/balun is used to connect a 75ohm coax cable to a 300ohm input on the antenna. If your cable is incorrectly connected to the antenna, then that right there is the major source of your problem. And do you have a digital TV with a digital tuner? Is your input set to scan for antenna or cable? Take a look.
post #9936 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

The transformer does not connect to the TV, if I understood you correctly. That could be your problem. The transformer/balun is used to connect a 75ohm coax cable to a 300ohm input on the antenna. If your cable is incorrectly connected to the antenna, then that right there is the major source of your problem. And do you have a digital TV with a digital tuner? Is your input set to scan for antenna or cable? Take a look.

Sorry I didn't explain it well. No, all I meant was that the transformer(connected to the antenna), was simply connected to the cable straight to the back of my HDTV, I even brought outside a portable HDTV and run 25' of coax straight to the back of the TV to make sure I had no bad coax in the attic. I also scan it on antenna.
post #9937 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

You may consider trying a similar version of this omnidirectional style antenna from RadioShack. Then you could more easily return and avoid shipping. They have several versions made by Antennacraft. But if I were ordering from Winegard, I would consider the new Flatwave Air amplified antenna. It was a special deal last week for $74 from Solid Signal, but their regular price is $99. But still cheaper than $129 elsewhere.[/quot

Yes I checked it and they are $100. $74 would've been great but at this point i don't care. lol. I can't find but one review on the new Flatwave Air amplified antenna which i think I might hold off until there are more reviews.in the meantine maybe any omni directional might work
post #9938 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

You may consider trying a similar version of this omnidirectional style antenna from RadioShack. Then you could more easily return and avoid shipping. They have several versions made by Antennacraft. But if I were ordering from Winegard, I would consider the new Flatwave Air amplified antenna. It was a special deal last week for $74 from Solid Signal, but their regular price is $99. But still cheaper than $129 elsewhere.

Yes, they are $99 but I can't find but One review on it so I think I'll wait until they're proven.
post #9939 of 10303
Well Tyler, I talked to Solid Signal and they told me something I've never heard of- they said the reason the antenna wasn't working for me was because it was TOO powerful!! They did recommend a Winegard HD 7694P , I think the same one you mentioned,.smile.gif
post #9940 of 10303
The dispute with Dish Network is still unresolved, and WSPA may soon be dropped at the end of the month. So an antenna may be necessary to receive CBS Channel 7 if you are a Dish subscriber. Rabbit ears work best for RF7 with an indoor antenna rather than those flat panel antennas. You can try the basic rabbit ears/loop antenna from Radioshack, or the Terk HDTVa from HHG. And the Winegard Free Vision from Home Depot may work as well. WSPA has a strong signal in the Upstate, and also in many areas you can receive CBS from WBTV-3 Charlotte with a good UHF antenna as another choice. And their is an OTA tuner that can be added to many Dish receivers.
post #9941 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

The dispute with Dish Network is still unresolved, and WSPA may soon be dropped at the end of the month. So an antenna may be necessary to receive CBS Channel 7 if you are a Dish subscriber. Rabbit ears work best for RF7 with an indoor antenna rather than those flat panel antennas. You can try the basic rabbit ears/loop antenna from Radioshack, or the Terk HDTVa from HHG. And the Winegard Free Vision from Home Depot may work as well. WSPA has a strong signal in the Upstate, and also in many areas you can receive CBS from WBTV-3 Charlotte with a good UHF antenna as another choice. And their is an OTA tuner that can be added to many Dish receivers.

Tyler IDK what happened but I received my new fangeled weird looking antenna/ wing and it just pulled in like 3 channels! I got disgusted and brush up my old 50 year old Channel Master and she pulled them ALL in!! I am baffled and i guess common sense no longer applies! Lol And she still has some blue on her. They really built them back then...unlike some of this garbage I've tried! Yeah if Dish does drop CBS, I'm good!!smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
post #9942 of 10303
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Originally Posted by Valkster View Post

Tyler IDK what happened but I received my new fangeled weird looking antenna/ wing and it just pulled in like 3 channels! I got disgusted and brush up my old 50 year old Channel Master and she pulled them ALL in!! I am baffled and i guess common sense no longer applies! Lol And she still has some blue on her. They really built them back then...unlike some of this garbage I've tried! Yeah if Dish does drop CBS, I'm good!!smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
Yes, as I have said before, those original Channel Master products were much better performers than those Chinese made imitations they have now. I use a Channel Master 4248 UHF Diamond antenna that is no longer made, with excellent results.
post #9943 of 10303
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Originally Posted by Valkster View Post

Tyler IDK what happened but I received my new fangeled weird looking antenna/ wing and it just pulled in like 3 channels! I got disgusted and brush up my old 50 year old Channel Master and she pulled them ALL in!! I am baffled and i guess common sense no longer applies! Lol And she still has some blue on her. They really built them back then...unlike some of this garbage I've tried! Yeah if Dish does drop CBS, I'm good!!smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif
So Valkster, did you finally get your antenna to work, or you still having problems? And are you able to post a picture of that Channel Master antenna? I would like to see what type of model and what it looks like.
post #9944 of 10303
I have not heard an update if WGGS-16 has installed their new top mount antenna. They did increase power a few months back. And no word yet on 13-WLOS translator for Paris Mtn.
post #9945 of 10303
They had runaway pigs run wild in Greenwood but crisis is over and order has now been restored. Hog truck had crashed on way to slaughterhouse. Was reported on WYFF-4, WIS-10 and even WBTV-3 had video of this catastrophic incident.
post #9946 of 10303
Look like WGGS TV 16 got their antenna replace i'm getting a good Picture but their on screen guide and station id PSIP still not working.

Pictures of new install Wggs TV antenna on WGGS TV Facebook on September 25, 2013

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.551081841606293.1073741832.170615062986308&type=1
Edited by LMckin - 9/28/13 at 7:31am
post #9947 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

So Valkster, did you finally get your antenna to work, or you still having problems? And are you able to post a picture of that Channel Master antenna? I would like to see what type of model and what it looks like.

Yes I Finally did and still don't know what the problem was! New coax, no splitters, all new antennas and run straight to back of tv.. so simple a child could do it! lol

Anyway, yes I'm pulling them all in and will be glad to post a picture of it.smile.gif
post #9948 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

They had runaway pigs run wild in Greenwood but crisis is over and order has now been restored. Hog truck had crashed on way to slaughterhouse. Was reported on WYFF-4, WIS-10 and even WBTV-3 had video of this catastrophic incident.

It was near my house ironically. I've heard the boom while I was watching Days of our Lives on my DVR last night.

Speaking of OTA signals, here in Greenwood, I can get mostly the Greenville, SC stations (4.1,4.2,7.1,7.2,13.1,13.2,13.3,16.1,16.2,16.3,21.1,21.2,29.1,29.2,29.3,33.1,33.2,33.3,38.1,38.2,38.3,40.1,40.3,62.1, and 62.2) when I pointed my directional antenna North. I also get adjacent stations from Augusta, GA if pointed SSE (6.1,6.2,12.1,12.2,12.3,20.1,20.2,20.3(oh low-VHF unfortunately),26.1,26.2, and 54.1,54.2) sometimes I get 14.1,14.2,14.3, and another adjacent stations from Columbia, SC (10.1,10.2,10.3,19.1,19.2,19.3,25.1,25.2,25.3,25.4,35.1,35.2,35.3,57.1, and sometimes 63.1,63.2,63.3,63.4) and i can't get a good signal of WZRB 47 unfortunately. WRDW 12.2 and WKTC 63.3 carries Antenna TV, WIS 10.3 and WFXG 54.2 carries Bounce (the latter two is owned by Raycom so as Charlotte's WBTV). Sometimes I receive some Charlotte, NC stations during the night.

I'm thinking on replacing my AntennaCraft C490 Directional Outdoor Antenna with a FlatWave Air Outdoor Amplified Antenna (FL6550A) and it's on sale at Solid Signal for $99.99 (MSRP $129.99) and a traditional long range outdoor antenna can go up to 60 (or more miles). FL6550A is a multi-directional antenna and it's High VHF/UHF band (7-51), DTV.gov signal levels are: Strong, Moderate, and Weak. http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=fl6550a&d=winegard-flatwave-air-outdoor-amplified-hdtv-antenna-%28flatwaveair-fl6550a%29

What do you think tylerSC?
post #9949 of 10303
Anybody heard when Charter is switching to all digital?
post #9950 of 10303
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Originally Posted by mdavej View Post

Anybody heard when Charter is switching to all digital?

No but it should be soon (maybe early November). The lineup is posted already: http://charter.com/Digital-Now/downloads/CLU_GAD_Greenville_Numerical.pdf

It looks like about 90-100 new HD channels.
post #9951 of 10303
Thanks. Already downloaded the new lineup. It looks fantastic. I even made a spreadsheet to help me delete my SD duplicates. I can share it if you're interested.
post #9952 of 10303
They are already switching to all digital in neighboring NC markets, so it should be soon for the Upstate. So I assume a cable box will now be required for all subscribers, but I do wonder if the free clear qam locals in HD will remain. And in our case with a TiVo Premiere box, I guess a cable card and a tuning adapter will now be necessary as well.
post #9953 of 10303
SpencerKarter, the new Winegard Flatwave Air appears to be a very nice, discreet style antenna for suburban areas, with their new low noise amp built in. But it may not be ideal for deep fringe areas. In your case, I still recommend the Winegard 7698 or Antennacraft HBU-55, and a good low noise preamp. Also recently, Solid Signal had it for $75 one day deal for the Flatwave Air.
post #9954 of 10303
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Originally Posted by Valkster View Post

Yes I Finally did and still don't know what the problem was! New coax, no splitters, all new antennas and run straight to back of tv.. so simple a child could do it! lol

Anyway, yes I'm pulling them all in and will be glad to post a picture of it.smile.gif
That is great news to hear after your long ordeal, and you probably don't need an amp. Maybe new coax and replacing splitters did the trick. And would be great to see antenna pics when you get a chance.
post #9955 of 10303
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Originally Posted by tylerSC View Post

SpencerKarter, the new Winegard Flatwave Air appears to be a very nice, discreet style antenna for suburban areas, with their new low noise amp built in. But it may not be ideal for deep fringe areas. In your case, I still recommend the Winegard 7698 or Antennacraft HBU-55, and a good low noise preamp. Also recently, Solid Signal had it for $75 one day deal for the Flatwave Air.

According to winegard.com it works for strong, moderate, and weak signals.
post #9956 of 10303
Tonight at midnight WSPA-7 and WYCW-62 may be dropped by Dish Network if an agreement is not reached with Media General. So no more CBS or CW without an antenna, or change providers. And no more 7 On Your Side News. Recently Dish dropped Raycom stations including WBTV for several weeks until the contract was resolved.
post #9957 of 10303
Does anybody get better reception of WGGS TV 16 since they change it antenna to a top mount antenna. i can pickup wggs tv 16 better in Spartanburg now.
post #9958 of 10303
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Originally Posted by LMckin View Post

Does anybody get better reception of WGGS TV 16 since they change it antenna to a top mount antenna. i can pickup wggs tv 16 better in Spartanburg now.
I am very close to Paris Mtn, so it is hard for me to say. Always a strong signal, even before power increase. Are we sure they have now top mount?
post #9959 of 10303
I posted a link to their new antenna install pictures to their facebook page few threads up. here is the link again

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.551081841606293.1073741832.170615062986308&type=1
post #9960 of 10303
Looks like a top mount stick antenna for WGGS-16. Probably omnidirectional which is overall better than side mount panel antenna. Should provide better reception coverage.
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