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post #5131 of 5427
OK need some help/info. Picked up a Panny 720p Plasma tv ($599) for my Mom. We have Oceanic Cable. I have a HD DVR in my room. I told her we should get a digital cable box and hook it up to her Panny. But she hates using a cable box. She just wants to run the coxial xable from the wall to her TV. So I did that then did a search for antenna/cable channels. I got about 79 analog channels and some digital channels the one listed below. How do I go about getting the HD channels listed below. Do I need a indoor antenna and if so which brand or model is the best? Thanks for any info/help that can be provided.

HD:
83-3 KHNL(NBC)
85-3 KHON(FOX)
113-1 KGMB(CBS)
114-2 KITV(ABC)
120-12 KHET(PBS)

SD:
85-4 KHON-CW
106-3 KIKU
106-5 KBFD
106-8 KBS America
115-3 PBS Kids
117-5 KFVE
117-6 KITV
117-7 KGMB
117-8 KHNL
117-10 KHET
post #5132 of 5427
If you've already got cable, then you should be able to tune in the network HD feeds with your QAM tuner in the TV. You shouldn't need an external antenna. Just tune in the HD channel with your remote. The kicker, of course, is that Oceanic has a tendency to arbitrarily change the QAM channels now and then. If you lose the channel, you may need to rescan to find it again.
post #5133 of 5427
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Originally Posted by spleen93 View Post

If you've already got cable, then you should be able to tune in the network HD feeds with your QAM tuner in the TV. You shouldn't need an external antenna. Just tune in the HD channel with your remote. The kicker, of course, is that Oceanic has a tendency to arbitrarily change the QAM channels now and then. If you lose the channel, you may need to rescan to find it again.

Thanks for the info. She can only get the channels listed below. Even my Sammy LCD can only get 2 of those 3 hd-channels. I usually get the message "scrambled channel or weak signal". Of course like I said I have a HD DVR from Oceanic.

HD:
83-3 KHNL(NBC)
114-2 KITV(ABC)
120-12 KHET(PBS)

SD:
117-3 KHON-CW
117-5 KFVE
117-6 KITV
117-7 KGMB
117-8 KHNL
117-10 KHET
post #5134 of 5427
If those are all the channels you're getting, you've probably got a weak signal. You might want to try a signal amplifier on the coax line to see if it helps boost the signal.
post #5135 of 5427
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Originally Posted by spleen93 View Post

If those are all the channels you're getting, you've probably got a weak signal. You might want to try a signal amplifier on the coax line to see if it helps boost the signal.

Okay will check on getting a amplifer. She is really bummed she can't get the KGMB HD channel. That is the channel with most of the shows she watches. Thanks again.
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post #5137 of 5427
Can i Bring my HD Cable Box from home to work to watch the game on wednesday on ESPN2HD?
post #5138 of 5427
Woo-Hoo... More HD! I like the ToonHD (Yay Adult Swim) as well as the Headline News HD. TCMHD and OutdoorHD not so much!
post #5139 of 5427
Does anyone know the numbering for the new qam stations? I know it supposed to be turned on today.
post #5140 of 5427
Oceanic RIP OFF !

I called Oceanic tonight. Where are those "free" HD channels? NO WHERE!
Having "basic cable" it will cost me $50 + a month. to get those so called "FREE" channels. I was told I would have to get a HD converter box too.
post #5141 of 5427
I'm in Waimalu with a Sony 46" V4100, and I can get all of the HD QAM channels listed on the Oceanic page, except for KHON HD (46.3).

I can tune 46.3, but it is audio-only (with KHON's audio). Does anyone else have this problem?
post #5142 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Aloha_guy View Post

Oceanic RIP OFF !

I called Oceanic tonight. Where are those "free" HD channels? NO WHERE!
Having "basic cable" it will cost me $50 + a month. to get those so called "FREE" channels. I was told I would have to get a HD converter box too.

Seriously? I can't believe they would advertise for free then require a box. I am so done with them. Have respect for people and don't be deceptive. It is cruel.
post #5143 of 5427
I was watching the new season of Curb Your Enthusiasm (2nd episode) and there's a scene where his new wife is using the DVR. It said time warner cable on the screen but the interface was much nicer than what Oceanic is using. One obvious difference was that it was widescreen, and fit the whole panel of the tv. Does anyone know what this is and if we're suppose to be getting it in the future? I'm getting kind of sick of whatever oceanic uses. For some reason now i only can get show descriptions for 2 or 3 days max ahead of time instead of a week that I'm pretty sure i use to get before.
post #5144 of 5427
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Originally Posted by RobertCEO View Post

One obvious difference was that it was widescreen, ... now i only can get show descriptions for 2 or 3 days max ahead of time instead of a week ...

It did used to be a week. It's two weeks on DirecTV, which also has a widescreen interface.
post #5145 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Aloha_guy View Post

Oceanic RIP OFF !

I called Oceanic tonight. Where are those "free" HD channels? NO WHERE!
Having "basic cable" it will cost me $50 + a month. to get those so called "FREE" channels. I was told I would have to get a HD converter box too.

Just got off the phone myself and was shocked at the BS Oceanic is shoveling. I was told that as mentioned above that even though the letter I received stated that "The following HD networks will be available at no additional charge to Standard TV Service subscribers" that a HD cable box is still required.

I asked them why and to define Standard TV Service and they said Standard TV Service is a direct cable connection from the wall to the TV and does not require a cable box, but then went on to say that a HD cable box is still needed to receive HD signals because "no TV made today has the capability to receive and decode HD signals". WTF?!?!?!?

I asked to speak with a supervisor for clarification as this person obviously had no idea what they were talking about. The supervisor admited that even though the letter stated the above, which I quoted to him, that to receive HD channels through Standard TV Service still required a HD cable box.

I asked him why as I'm already receiving the network HD channels through the QAM tuner in my TV, what's to prevent me from receiving the additional HD channels listed in their letter? He said that the other channels are being sent from the mainland and require a box to decode. More BS!

At this point I'm going in circles and told him that Oceanic shouldn't be lying to their customers by sending out letters stating one thing and then not delivering, along with giving out completely false information regarding modern HD televisions. He said he would take it up with management and training at the next meeting. I just had to laugh. Next time warn me so I can lube up before I get bent over...
post #5146 of 5427
Just curious, what were the "free" HD networks they were advertising?
post #5147 of 5427
yawny - you should report it to the State. And maybe call a couple of the news stations and see if they'd be interested in doing a story. Who knows, maybe that would get Oceanic to do the right thing for once!!
post #5148 of 5427
From the Oceanic website:

"October 5, 2009

From time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers. The following changes are planned:

Within the next 30-45 days Telemundo and Mun/2 will be added to the Digital Spanish Tier. MSNBC HD will be added to the HD Entertainment Tier, MLB HD, Disney XD HD and Speed HD will be added to the Digital Variety Tier and Fox News HD and ABC Family HD will be added to the Value/Standard tier.

The new service listed below cannot be accessed on Cable CARD-equipped Unidirectional Digital Cable Products purchased at retail without additional 2-way capable equipment:

Telemundo, Mun/2, MSNBC HD, MLB HD, Disney XD HD, Speed HD, Fox News HD and ABC Family HD. "
post #5149 of 5427
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Originally Posted by swyman18 View Post

Just curious, what were the "free" HD networks they were advertising?

A direct quote from the channel line-up card sent along with the letter received on Sept 1, 2009. "The following HD networks will be available at no additional charge to Standard TV Service subscribers (underlined on the card) on October 1st, 2009."

Animal Planet HD
A&E HD
Discovery Channel HD
Disney HD
ESPN HD
ESPN2 HD
ESPNEWS HD
Food Network HD
FSN West HD
FX HD
Home & Garden HD
History HD
Lifetime Movie Network HD
National Geographic HD
TLC HD

And even though Oceanic claims that as a Standard TV Service customer I don't need any form of cable box (http://www.oceanic.com/products/tele..._cable/pricing), I still need an HD box to receive these "free" HD channels because Oceanic says that "no TV has the capability to receive and decode HD signals", even though I'm already able to receive all the HD channels Oceanic lists on their HD channel line-ups for Direct Digital TV hookups on their website here http://www.oceanic.com/products/tele...r-tivo-hookups. I must have a magic TV...
post #5150 of 5427
Did you guys really think Oceanic was going to give HD channels for FREE? Why should they? They're here to make money not give freebies. It's like those people selling timeshares: you get free this and free that but you have to pay big bucks first.
That's how they're trying to make everyone switch to the digital package. Yes, you can have free HD channels BUT you will need a new converter + new package + why not add this service for a very low low price too. So in the end, sure you get the "free" HD channels but your Oceanic bill has gone way up.

Just my 2 cents.
post #5151 of 5427
Yeah, while I agree they probably shouldn't have used the term "Standard TV Service", I definately would have been suspicious about receiving all those national HD channels without a set top box. The channel lineup on the website seems to indicate that only the local network HD channels can be received without a box.
post #5152 of 5427
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Originally Posted by JimNastic View Post

Did you guys really think Oceanic was going to give HD channels for FREE? Why should they? They're here to make money not give freebies. It's like those people selling timeshares: you get free this and free that but you have to pay big bucks first.
That's how they're trying to make everyone switch to the digital package. Yes, you can have free HD channels BUT you will need a new converter + new package + why not add this service for a very low low price too. So in the end, sure you get the "free" HD channels but your Oceanic bill has gone way up.

Just my 2 cents.

But they do give HD for free with regards to the Network stations. Why not give us a few extra (as stated in their letter) as a tease into subcribing to the HD Entertainment Pak, and then a DVR etc. That's why I called to clarify the situation. And then they blatenly lied by saying the reason I couldn't receive those channels without an HD box was because "no TV made can decode HD signals." By the way, I work in the timeshare industry for a major company and we give hundreds of dollars in gifts away every day with absolutely no obligation to "pay the big bucks first." It works very well if you have a good product and don't offer something and then take it away, and then lie about why it was taken away.
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Originally Posted by swyman18 View Post

Yeah, while I agree they probably shouldn't have used the term "Standard TV Service", I definately would have been suspicious about receiving all those national HD channels without a set top box. The channel lineup on the website seems to indicate that only the local network HD channels can be received without a box.

Yes, using the term "Standard TV Service" was very misleading, or it could have been better explained/described. But as I mentioned above, why not offer a few extra HD channels for free as an inducement to upgrade to the other HD packages that offer twice as many HD channels. In this economy many business are offering more for less to attract new and keep current customers. Problem is Oceanic has no other cable TV competition so they can do anything they want. Anyway, I'm done ranting. I now return you to the regular forum discussion...
post #5153 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Yawny View Post

And then they blatenly lied by saying the reason I couldn't receive those channels without an HD box was because "no TV made can decode HD signals."

I doubt there was any deliberate falsehood. The HD signals in question are presumably encrypted in a way an unaided TV cannot in fact decode, to prevent unauthorized viewing.
post #5154 of 5427
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Originally Posted by GregLee View Post

I doubt there was any deliberate falsehood. The HD signals in question are presumably encrypted in a way an unaided TV cannot in fact decode, to prevent unauthorized viewing.

Not to also mention that except for the HD locals all of Oceanic HD channels are subjected to SDV status, and currently no TV sets on the market are able to interface with a tuning adapter to "request" a SDV channel, even those with CableCARD slots.
post #5155 of 5427
Why is all these guys defending OC we pay so much and having them nickle and dime us to death. The so called encrypted channels were once free when they were first testing their HD channels. I remember food and HGTV were broadcast for free at the beginning. Also another deceiving tactic they use is having you sign up for digital cable to get your HD tv box. I had to go through 3 managers to remove the crap ass digital channels off my bill but still keep my HD package. If any operator tells you you need digital cable to get the HD package they don't know what they are talking about. If I didn't have so many tvs in my house I would look for an alternative. OC SUCKS!!!!!!
post #5156 of 5427
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Originally Posted by mpressive View Post

Why is all these guys defending OC we pay so much and having them nickle and dime us to death. The so called encrypted channels were once free when they were first testing their HD channels. I remember food and HGTV were broadcast for free at the beginning. Also another deceiving tactic they use is having you sign up for digital cable to get your HD tv box. I had to go through 3 managers to remove the crap ass digital channels off my bill but still keep my HD package. If any operator tells you you need digital cable to get the HD package they don't know what they are talking about. If I didn't have so many tvs in my house I would look for an alternative. OC SUCKS!!!!!!

So what is your setup? You have standard analog cable, but with an HD box? What channels are your "free" HD channels appearing?
post #5157 of 5427
I have a HD box but no digital channels like G4, Speed and others I can live without them because they are not in HD. I attached my bill so all can see and demand it form oceanic. I wish I did not have to pay for anything in analog or digital. I don't watch anything that is not in HD
LL
post #5158 of 5427
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Originally Posted by mpressive View Post

Also another deceiving tactic they use is having you sign up for digital cable to get your HD tv box.

Do you know that all HD is digital?
post #5159 of 5427
I'm talking about digital SD channels vs digital HD channels are you sure you know the difference?
post #5160 of 5427
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Originally Posted by mpressive View Post

Does anyone know the numbering for the new qam stations? I know it supposed to be turned on today.

I don't know what is going on with Oceanic. When I hooked up my TV, I got KHON-HD (85.3), KGMB-HD (113.1), KHNL-HD (83.3), KITV-HD (114.2). However first, KHON-HD disappeared and then KGMB-HD disappeared. I have tried to input those new channel numbers they have listed, 46.1 and 116.1, but neither pops up with any signal, does anyone have any suggestions?
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