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post #5281 of 5427
I'm curious if I should replace the component video cable (which Oceanic supplied) with a HDMI cable. Is there any discernible benefit to do this? The HDTV set top box has a HDMI outlet.
post #5282 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

I'm curious if I should replace the component video cable (which Oceanic supplied) with a HDMI cable. Is there any discernible benefit to do this?

There might be. Of the various connection types, HDMI has the reputation of giving the best quality picture. Assuming you have a modern digital type display and digital cable, it should in theory give a better picture, because it saves you a step of digital-analog-digital conversion. Also, the signal over HDMI can be protected by HDCP, so there might in the future be some programs you can view that are not watchable over a component connection.
post #5283 of 5427
Greg, mahalo for the insight. I recently had to swap my digital cable box due to some technical issues with the VOD channels. The lady gave me a HDTV cable box after I told her I had a HDTV.

She gave me component video cables to connect to my TV. However, I found a place online where I can buy cheap HDMI cabling. So, I was mulling over swapping the cabling.
post #5284 of 5427
I was surprised to see how many more HD channels are available without subscribing to the HD Entertainment Pak.

It was my understanding you had to subscribe to the latter package to get HD channels. However, it appears Oceanic has moved several HD channels to the digital cable tier.
post #5285 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

However, I found a place online where I can buy cheap HDMI cabling.

Monoprice.com is the AVSforum favorite. I've bought HDMI and other cables there. Good stuff, cheap prices, fast service.
post #5286 of 5427
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Originally Posted by GregLee View Post

Monoprice.com is the AVSforum favorite. I've bought HDMI and other cables there. Good stuff, cheap prices, fast service.

You read my mind. Monoprice was the site I was contemplating ordering from.
post #5287 of 5427
Greg, I received a comment in another forum regarding this question. The person states that since the HD set top box outputs at 1080i it doesn't make any difference if I use HDMI or component.

However, I'm strongly leaning towards replacing the component cable with HDMI.
post #5288 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

The person states that since the HD set top box outputs at 1080i it doesn't make any difference if I use HDMI or component.

That doesn't make any sense. There is no relation to the output resolution. But I'm not saying you'll see a difference. I said there might be a difference. I've made the comparison several times and usually I saw no difference. Once, when I was routing the component signal through an AVR, I saw some crawling fringes on the set top box's screen graphics, which distortion was not there for the HDMI signal.
post #5289 of 5427
I'm going to place an order this week with that site and order a HDMI cable. I'll certainly post my results here after I swap the cables.
post #5290 of 5427
I received another comment regarding using HDMI cable versus component video to connect the HD box and the HD TV on another forum.


"Often the HDMI connections will suffer from odd handshake issues and HDCP (copy protect) issues. Component cables tend to be much more reliable and trouble free."
post #5291 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

I received another comment regarding using HDMI cable versus component video to connect the HD box and the HD TV on another forum.


"Often the HDMI connections will suffer from odd handshake issues and HDCP (copy protect) issues. Component cables tend to be much more reliable and trouble free."

Both those things are true. The potential HDCP issue is the other side of the advantage I mentioned above. If you want to view something not available by component because the purveyor insists on HDCP copy protection, you'll need HDMI. I think some DirecTV "Cinema" VOD downloads may fall into this category. There are other potential future advantages of HDMI -- it provides for HDMI-CEC control signals for coordinating your equipment, 3D, "audio return channel", and ethernet over the HDMI cable.
post #5292 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

I'm curious why certain HDTV channels television feed is different than the SDTV version? I've noticed this difference on A&E's HD and SD channels.

You mean program times? I had Oceanic before and it is because the SD feed runs on a tape delay. The HD feed is a live East Coast HD feed so the programming airs earlier.
post #5293 of 5427
In trying to reduce my bill, I had the Digital Variety Pak and HD Entertainment Pak removed. It removed all of my SDV channels and only left a handful of non-SDV channels such as the networks. This is despite what the OTW mailer stated. According to their mailer, I should have been able to receive far more HD channels just through their basic digital service subscription. When I asked that they add back the least expensive of the two (the HD Ent Pak), I got back the channels that I expected to receive.

Do you know if you currently subscribe to the Digital Variety Pak?


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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

I was surprised to see how many more HD channels are available without subscribing to the HD Entertainment Pak.

It was my understanding you had to subscribe to the latter package to get HD channels. However, it appears Oceanic has moved several HD channels to the digital cable tier.
post #5294 of 5427
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Originally Posted by bueller555 View Post

Do you know if you currently subscribe to the Digital Variety Pak?

I believe my dad subscribes to that package. It used to be called Digital Cable
Service?

The funny thing is I recently had to swap my digital cable box due to technical issues. They gave me a HD cable box. I was awfully surprised to be able to access all these HD channels. I previously was able to access them when I had HD Entertainment Pak. However, I dropped that service when TWC dropped HDNet.
post #5295 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

I'm going to place an order this week with that site and order a HDMI cable. I'll certainly post my results here after I swap the cables.

The obvious advantage of the HDMI cable is a serious reduction in clutter behind your equipment. One HDMI cable for video and audio vs the triple component cable and an audio cable. If you are using a stereo RCA cable for analog audio instead of digital audio, then you MIGHT notice an improvement in sound quality as well.
post #5296 of 5427
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Originally Posted by snakpak View Post

The obvious advantage of the HDMI cable is a serious reduction in clutter behind your equipment. One HDMI cable for video and audio vs the triple component cable and an audio cable. If you are using a stereo RCA cable for analog audio instead of digital audio, then you MIGHT notice an improvement in sound quality as well.

I compared the two and my conclusion was that the component cables provided better SD picture and I could not notice a difference between the two cables in HD, so I keep using the component
post #5297 of 5427
I swapped the composite cabling for a HDMI cable between my HD set top box and my HD TV. However, the picture would frequently black out between a black screen and the TV feed. This doesn't happen when I use the composite cable.

It seems it may be the HDMI cable. I've swapped another HDMI cable between the set top box and the TV- no problems thus far.
post #5298 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Konaguy View Post

It seems it may be the HDMI cable.

You probably know this, but when a connection socket has been unused for several years, exposed to the air, some dirt or corrosion may have gotten in there. Then, sometimes just unplugging a cable and replugging it several times may get it working, since that can rub the stuff off the electrical contacts.
post #5299 of 5427
I tried a different HDMI cable and the said problem went away. However, the picture started to pixellate instead. Nonetheless, I'll try the HDMI cabling for a few days to see if these problems clear up.
post #5300 of 5427
Has anyone ever tried to add an external hard drive to the DVR box? Recording HD shows is quickly using up space and I was wondering if its possible to add an external drive. Ive done some research and found that Time Warner might be disabling the esata port on the back. Anyone know if this is true? I dont want to buy a drive and later find out that its not useable.
post #5301 of 5427
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Originally Posted by aenokea View Post

Has anyone ever tried to add an external hard drive to the DVR box? Recording HD shows is quickly using up space and I was wondering if its possible to add an external drive. Ive done some research and found that Time Warner might be disabling the esata port on the back. Anyone know if this is true? I dont want to buy a drive and later find out that its not useable.

I have a Seagate external hard drive (500GB) and it works fine. Bunch of people I know all have some sort of external HD.
post #5302 of 5427
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Originally Posted by chalankanoa View Post

I have a Seagate external hard drive (500GB) and it works fine. Bunch of people I know all have some sort of external HD.

Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try.
post #5303 of 5427
I'm a UH football fan that just recently switched to Directv to get NFL Sunday ticket. After reading the article in Sunday's paper about all the away games appearing on Oceanic PPV, what are my options for watching the away games? Most likely I'll be at Aloha Stadium for all the home games.
post #5304 of 5427
UH and the WAC have a contract with ESPN that includes games as part of ESPN's GamePlan package. Some games may also be included on other teams SportsNets as part of Directv's SportsPak.
When I lived in Hawaii I had Dish and they didn't blackout the UH games on other packages but you may want to call Directv and ask if they will blackout UH games in Hawaii.
post #5305 of 5427
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Originally Posted by Charles O View Post

you may want to call Directv and ask if they will blackout UH games in Hawaii.

DirecTV doesn't block out UH football games if they're available on a regional sports network UNLESS it's on an ESPN Game Plan Pay Per View Channel as well as the regional network.

I remember in 2008 when UH played Utah State. Oceanic charged for the game but DirecTV had it for free on a regional sports channel.
However when UH played Florida it was on a regional sports network but blacked out because it was also on a ESPN Gameplan PPV channel.

Basically it's a hit or miss but most of the games are on a RSN unless UH plays a big name team like Florida again.
post #5306 of 5427
On the feed of KHNL on DirecTV I've noticed that the screen for "Non HD" programs shrinks to the size of about half the screen when I leave the DirecTV feed on "1080i - Pillar Box" Mode.
Before KHNL went to the 480i "HD" picture wasn't KHNL in a full screen 480i SD picture?

I doubt HD for KHNL & KFVE will even come before 2012 on DTV because DTV is adding new local markets in HD. I doubt they'd expand HD for a market that already has locals.

I know this is purely based on opinions here but wouldn't KHNL look better as a full screen SD "Pillar Box" picture?
post #5307 of 5427
Today and last Saturday couldn't receive KHON on OTA. Any one know if something is happening with their transmitter / antenna?

scott s.
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post #5308 of 5427
Anyone know of Oceanic's plans regarding 3D programming? ESPN 3D? Discovery's 3D channel? I know they occasionally provide special 3D programming (PGA Championship later this month) but what about dedicated 3D channels?
post #5309 of 5427
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Originally Posted by wannabeHD View Post

Anyone know of Oceanic's plans regarding 3D programming? ESPN 3D? Discovery's 3D channel? I know they occasionally provide special 3D programming (PGA Championship later this month) but what about dedicated 3D channels?

Spotted channel 1201 called 3DTV1 tonight. Nothing on it yet although I don't have a 3D HDTV so it could be why I don't see anything.

From the Oceanic website:
Within 30 days we will add CBS College Sports HD to the Sports Tier on Channel 1247.
post #5310 of 5427
From time to time we make certain changes in the services we offer. KPXO HD will be added to Digital Basic September 16, 2010 and CBS College Sports HD will be added to the digital Sports Tier September 10,2010. Within the next 30-60 days, TruTV and ShopNBC will be available only in digital format on Oahu and Hawaii Ch. 78 will cease to exist statewide, however, CSPAN2 and Wize Buys will be available on digital statewide.

The following channels cannot be accessed on Cable CARD-Equipped Uni-Directional Digital Cable Products purchased at retail outlets without additional two-way capable equipment: TruTV, ShopNBC and CBS College Sports HD.
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