LG LST-3510A DVI/DVD/HDTV Impressions - Page 2

Got my 3510A this morning. WOW!!!

P.S. That's all I can say. Buy it and worry about the rumors later. I am comparing to my Zenith HD-SAT520, Samsung HD931 and Sony DVP-NC665P. My display is Sanyo Z2.

Luchan, let me know if your 3510A resets your DVI output setting to 480p every time you turn it off then back on again.

Ken

My non-Disney DVD idea didn't work - it still defaults to AUTO-DVI then 480p.

Ken

kenhdtv, I will check it tomorrow. I am not at home this evening. My best guess is the problem with your display unit. The display unit sends the picture format to the set top box during the DVI handshake.

Luchan, you may be right. I disconnected my DVI-D cable and the 3510A retained the DVI output setting after I switched it off, then back on. I'm using a Sammy 56 DLP w/DVI. Anyone have any other suggestions ? Is there a SM setting in the DLP I should check ?

Ken

softngr-



HDTV DTV Tuner
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"No more noise when viewing the unused analog NTSC tuner. The 3510 does not contain one. The unit is similar to the Sony 300 and Zenith 520 except there is NO Direct-TV satellite tuner. Selectable variable/automatic and fixed resolution output decoding. Nice."

What do you mean there is no satellite tuner? I thought this unit as well as the Sony 300 could also be used as a direct tv tuner, is that not correct?

thanks

softengr, are you connected to a Sammy DLP ? I double-checked the 720p setting, it initially powers-up in 720p DVI, then you hear a short DVD seek but no DVD is found, then the AUTO-DVI msg is displayed and it switches to 480p - very puzzling !

Ken

Luchan,

I will be getting an Studio Experience 2HD (Z2 rebadge). I am very interested in your findings regarding DVI/720P/Disney DVDs with the Z2 as I have read a couple of disparaging posts concerning DVI/HDCP issues with the Z2. Cograts, thought you weren't getting it for a couple of weeks. (Probably couldn't wait and had them overnight it

Ken,
It is possible that your problem is the DVI input on the Samsung DLP.
I believe Samsung uses the PC standard. The LG is set up on the video
standard. This is mentioned in the LG manual.

The other possibility based on reading the LG manual is that you have selected either "native" or one of the "variable" settings for the resolution
on the LG. Based on the manual, it's an 8 step or so process to set the
resolution to various settings depending on the input signal.
Good Luck.
Charles

Luchan, I have a Z2 and a 3510a on order. What did you use for a DVI cable. Was it DVI-D to DVI-D? Also do the 3510A and Z2 use the same output level standards, ie can you see 0 IRE OK?

cpcat, thanks for the PC vs video DVI standard suggestion. I'll look into that one. I know I've got it set right per the manual.

Ken

softengr, I'm not using VARIABLE, I'm setting it to 720P (fixed) for DVI. I thought there was only one DVI setting required on the 3510A. What is the "HDTV" setting you referred to when you asked "or are you setting to 720p FIXED for both DVI and HDTV?"

Do I need to put it in "DVD mode" and set DVI output = 720P and ALSO put it in "OTA mode" and set DVI output again to 720P ? If so, that would mean there is not a common setting for the unit but a unique setting for the DVD and for the OTA tuner. This is definitely not in the DVI setup instructions on page 19 of the User's Manual.

Ken

softengr,

Can you let us know where did you get the unit from and for how much?

Thanks,
Eric

I think Luchan is so mesmeized by the 3510A and his Z2 that he has forgotten that AVS Forum exists or he is quivering with excitement and pure orgasmic delight and he is unable to type .

doug goldberg: 3510A has a single link DVI-D connector. You must not use a DVI-I cable. Either single link or dual link DVI-D cable will be fine.

kenhdtv: Yes. My 3510A resets the DVI output setting to 480p every time I turn it off then back on again. It happens to both DTV and DVD. It doesn't happen for the component connection. SAT520 doesn't have this problem.

Newsk2: I am able to output 720p or 1080i through the DVI port for all DVDs I have played so far (including Toy Story 2, X2 and LOR etc.). I can get only 480i/480p for DVD playback through the component output.

Other Notes:

(1) The DVI ouput from the 3510A gives MUCH better black details. The grayscale tracking and color decoding on my Sanyo Z2 are PERFECT. I even returned every settings to factory defaults on my Z2 and the picture looks awesome.

(2) I experienced grayscale tracking problems when I used component video output from the 3510A. There is too much red in low IREs and little red in high IREs. I think it may be related to the $60 Monster component video cable......

(3) The 3510A is able to lock in 6 more channels than the SAT520. I have a CM antenna installed on top of the roof. I live in a small town which is about 85 miles from a big city.

(4) The aspect ratio for 4:3 SD programming is normal.

LG website was no help finding a dealer. I did manage to find an online dealer. jr.com sells it for a good price and ships for free.

Luchan, thanks for the feedback on your 3510A resetting to 480p with your Z2. That suggests it is probably a 3510A bug versus a bug with my Sammy DLP TV. I have a call into JFerg (LG expert) to see if there is a way to disable the AUTO-DVI (LG calls it EZDVI) power-up routine. It is very annoying to have to manually change the DVI output to 720p after every power-up using the buttons on the front panel (remote can't change it). Leaving it on doesn't help if you don't leave your TV always on.

If you figure a way to avoid the reset, please post it and I'll do the same.

Ken

You should go to the Zenith web site. LG doesn't have an up to date dealer database.

What is a CM antenna ? I just ordered the 3510a and plan to return my comcast HD STB but I also plan to add an antenna for OTA HD channels. Anyway, I am just now getting up to speed on OTA HD. I am about 60 miles from Boston so will need a pretty strong antenna and would like to put it in my attic instead of outside. Any recommandations ?

CM = Channel Master I believe

CM = ChannelMaster, I use a CM-4221 but check antennaweb.org for your street address specifics.

Ken

I hope this is not too off topic. I was looking at a big bowtie antenna 4228 probably with a preamp and putting it in my attic.

At 60 miles, you may need to go outdoors, but you should be able to get the NH stations (ABC, PBS) pretty easily.

Try Google.com or Yahoo.com and search for LST-3510A

Not very many hits that way... and only on retailer - that sells it $100 above SRP... Thanks, but I can search more and/or wait if I have to.

Actually, someone else suggested trying j and r dot com. It's listed at SRP, but they quoted a bit lower over the phone. I don't know enough about this place to place the order or reccomend. I think this is a B&M purchase if I decide to get one.

Edit: J and R is a B&M with a web site... just not so convenient for a Californian

laserland in san jose, ca has them on their web site. haven't called them to find out how much they are.

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Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
Try Google.com or Yahoo.com and search for LST-3510A
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Not very many hits that way... and only on retailer - that sells it $100 above SRP... Thanks, but I can search more and/or wait if I have to.

Actually, someone else suggested trying j and r dot com. It's listed at SRP, but they quoted a bit lower over the phone. I don't know enough about this place to place the order or reccomend. I think this is a B&M purchase if I decide to get one.

Edit: J and R is a B&M with a web site... just not so convenient for a Californian

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