Originally posted by lynns_rich
Great info on here...thanks UMR
I am in the process of deciding between the 50" XBR800 and the WE610. I know that the GWIII has more pixels and 3rd generation engine, but from everything I have read on here the GWII has just as good pq once tweaked out. From what UMR stated, the GWIII has a brighter picture. Reading some of the other threads, it seems that the GWII XBR was made a little more "solid" than the GWIII WE610 models. I guess what I am asking is does it just come down to personal choice or is there distinct advantages of one model over the next...... Thanks for any feedback
I can help clarify this because of spending so much time and taking measurements of both sets:
Things I would not worry about between the two:
Circuitry Performance - I see no difference between these sets on how they handle the inputs. The chip sets are different, but the circuits seem to perform the same. They both seem to have the same strengths and weaknesses on the electronics side.
Color Accuracy - Both sets can have fabulous colors once they are properly adjusted.
Screen Door - I see no difference in the screen door between these two sets.
Reliability - This is the big point in favor of this set at this time. This may drop out of the picture in time, but today the WE has had more problems.
Controls - The remote is better, the controls on the TV are better and the location of the remote sensor on the TV is better.
Build Quality - I would give the edge to the XBR800. Almost everything about it looks to be made better. Hint: I would not trade my XBR800 for a WE610 at this point in time.
Contrast Ratio - Lower than WE version unless you add a color correction filter. Not an issue if you do.
Complexity Of Tweaking - This set is more difficult to tweak than the WE. It requires adding a color filter to get the gray scale close at 0 to 10 IRE levels. It also requires a more complex adjustment of the service menu to get equal the WE versions performance.
Contrast Ratio - Out of the box contrast ratio is better than the XBR800 untweaked and about equal to a tweaked set.
Brightness - This set is much brighter.
Color Uniforimity - I believe the new sets tend to have better uniformity of color across the screen. This is normally not visible, but once you tweak the set to D65 slight color errors become more apparent.
Black Level - The bright image also raises the black level. The untweaked WE had about 2 times brighter blacks than my XBR800 untweaked and 4 times brighter than my tweaked set. This could be improved with a filter, but I don't know how hard it would be to add. This was fairly easy in the XBR800 to do mechanically.
WE610 & XBR800 Personal Taste Issues:
Appearance - Some people like one over the other. I am not sure which I prefer.
The Screen - I prefer the XBR800 some prefer the WE610. It depends on your lighting scenario and preference.