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post #2401 of 6866
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Originally Posted by T-Techster View Post

ESPN native format is 720p, not 1080i. Same as FOX. So I'm not sure what you mean by low bandwith. The major difference is interlaced picture. 1080i has more lines of resolution, but only half are displayed at one time. 1080i looks great, but not ideal for fast movement (sports) due to some pixelization when the interlacing and set interpolation can't keep up. That's one of the reasons why ESPN and ABC chose 720p.

As for video transport provider, stations get net HD feeds via satellite. FOX O&O's don't multicast, so no second channel bandwith demands (*-2) (*-3), etc. There's not a technical or financial benefit to hold back on the transmission rate.

Picture quality I've seen on 720p has been excellent on both local FOX as well as ESPN. Problems start arising when some station groups take existing 720p feeds and upconverting to 1080i (Belo).

I guess I should have done my homework. So ESPNHD is a 720p format. I watched part of the TCU vs. Utah game last night and it looked pristine, fantastic as usual. All I can say is on my setup, the Fox NFL feeds looks "hazy" and somewhat blurry, this was an NFC game last Sunday. It is possible it was a widescreen 480p broadcast instead of HD. CBS uses 1080i for their NFL broadcasts, right? Those look great from what little games they broadcast, no motion artifacts or noticeable combing. I think the bandwidth and processing of an HD signal makes more difference than 720p vs 1080i.
post #2402 of 6866
Thanks for the response and the ray of light. Maybe this is where I am confused? I thought that the additional antenna that they installed with my dish was the OTA? Am I way off base here?
post #2403 of 6866
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Originally Posted by Vasanth B View Post

All I can say is on my setup, the Fox NFL feeds looks "hazy" and somewhat blurry, this was an NFC game last Sunday. It is possible it was a widescreen 480p broadcast instead of HD. CBS uses 1080i for their NFL broadcasts, right? Those look great from what little games they broadcast, no motion artifacts or noticeable combing. I think the bandwidth and processing of an HD signal makes more difference than 720p vs 1080i.

I think you are seeing 720p HD games from FOX but I agree with you that they do not have the sharpness of the CBS games and are way below the quality of ESPN games.

But, then, ESPN-HD football is head and shoulders above the other NFL networks. Their Sunday Night Football game is not only great, crystal-clear HD but the lighting, camera angles, everything is better -- far better than MNF, owned by the same company!

All the ESPN cameras are HD, including the sideline cameras and the BLIMP camera (the ONE camera that MUST be HD and is never HD on any channel but ESPN!).

The ESPN announcers are better (IMO) -- more concentration on the game, less on the fashions of the players wives -- and Suzy, the sideline gal whom Joe Namath wanted to kiss -- is superb. I want to kiss her, too!

While I'm at it, I'd like to kiss the big ugly guy at ESPN who made the decisions to go all the way with the best HD possible! (Just a quick one on the cheek, though. Definitely no tongue.)
post #2404 of 6866
Were you watching/referring to the New Orleans game last week? It was originally supposed to be standard def upconvert. It wasn't originally on the list of the 6 HD produced games for that week.

I think they changed their minds at the last minute and tried to get the gear on site to do full-blown HD (because of all the attention to the Saints). Could be that some of the cameras they used for that particular game were 420p widescreen with an upconvert to 720p. That could have contributed to the lower res.

Either way, you've got a good eye. It's nice to expect the best. I've gotten where I will search out and watch anything HD over analog.

Regular season MLB has been widescreen 420p upconverted, so I'm looking forward to postseason in full blown 720p.
post #2405 of 6866
Isn't this game supposed to be in HD? I'm not getting HD from KXAN. Is anyone out there getting it in HD?

t_bucket
post #2406 of 6866
Looks like they got it on now. Good spot to turn it on.

T_bucket
post #2407 of 6866
Watching the Texas game today on FSNSW. Interesting how much better their SD picture looks than ABC's did for the OSU game. Better announcers, too. Better than ABC all around.
post #2408 of 6866
Did anyone else have nasty pixelation (if that is the right word) during the Notre Dame HD broadcast? It was even noticeable in SD. Very weird and distracting. No such problem with the Florida game on CBS, which has the best OTA audio video around these parts.

While I'm at it, do the rest of you get bad audio sync problems on ABC. It is a pain in the butt to never had the audio and video in sync.
post #2409 of 6866
Anyone else having trouble picking up 36.1, 36.2, and/or 36.3?

Worked yesterday for the Notre Dame game.

Ran a test and I'm gettig over 90% signal, yet nothing but a black screen.

Rescan didn't help.

I'm out in Dripping Springs.
post #2410 of 6866
Never mind. It appears the digitals are showing up as 21.1 and 21.2.
post #2411 of 6866
Again tonight, I had the TV on ABC (Pearl Harbor) for as long as I could stand it, and the audio is way off. Is this a universal problem, or just for me?
post #2412 of 6866
I was not having any trouble with the audio on ABC (Pearl Harbor).

But I do have problems with NBC Kxan. 36.1,.2,.3 all don't work even though I have strong signal. They do work as 21.2 and 21.3. But this messes up my viewing guide.

I believe the problem is that the signal is not showing up as 36.1 KXAN-DTV like normal. It just displays 21.2 when I do a signal test. All other channels work fine.

In searching this forum, it seems something similar happened to KXAN about a year or so ago. Any information on how long it lasts or when it usually gets fixed? I tried to call KXAN earlier but didn't get a hold of anyone.
post #2413 of 6866
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But, then, ESPN-HD football is head and shoulders above the other NFL networks. Their Sunday Night Football game is not only great, crystal-clear HD but the lighting, camera angles, everything is better -- far better than MNF, owned by the same company!

Definitely agreed. Reading your post now just reminded me to turn on the Oakland vs KC game just now. Looks gorgeous as usual. I also like how ESPNHD uses a very subtle, transparent low-contrast logo. They respect the burn-in concerns for us CRT & plasma owners as well as maintaining a more classy overall broadcast that focuses attention on the game--not a logo. Though I haven't actually tested, it seems they also move around the score banner at the top of the screen over the course of the game. Can anyone confirm?

I also briefly watched some Fox NFL games today. Looks better than what I remembered from last week, pretty much on-par with the CBS game today.

At least Fox knows how to do '24' in HD right. I can't wait for Season 5 to start!
post #2414 of 6866
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Were you watching/referring to the New Orleans game last week? It was originally supposed to be standard def upconvert. It wasn't originally on the list of the 6 HD produced games for that week.

I think they changed their minds at the last minute and tried to get the gear on site to do full-blown HD (because of all the attention to the Saints). Could be that some of the cameras they used for that particular game were 420p widescreen with an upconvert to 720p. That could have contributed to the lower res.

It may have been though I can't remember for sure. That would explain the noticeably less-sharp broadcast vs today where they about as good as CBS.
post #2415 of 6866
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Originally Posted by Vasanth B View Post

At least Fox knows how to do '24' in HD right. I can't wait for Season 5 to start!

Agreed! Have never missed a single episode of "24"! In that genre, FOX is doing a pretty good job with "Prison Break" right now, as well, IMO.

But, for my taste, there is nothing on TV now to rival "Rome" in HD on HBO. Not sure whether someone with no interest in history -- i.e., most people -- would take to it, though. But, god (well, gods, in this case) it's beautiful in HD!

And speaking of beauty, there is an actress in that cast, who plays the wife of one of the leads, a Roman Centurian, whom I believe is the absolutely, flat-out, most beautiful woman I have ever laid eyes on! I would watch that show just to gape at her.
post #2416 of 6866
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Originally Posted by Robert_Lopez View Post

Again tonight, I had the TV on ABC (Pearl Harbor) for as long as I could stand it, and the audio is way off. Is this a universal problem, or just for me?


yeah I couldn't stand that crappy movie any longer and turned it off early too.

Oh wait, you were talking about audio problems, nevermind
post #2417 of 6866
Right in the middle of the Medium premiere, I lost the signal for KXAN-DT. Anyone else see them go off the air this evening?

Really bad timing considering it's premiere week...I know...you were all watching football.
post #2418 of 6866
I have had a black screen on OTA KXAN 36.1 for the last two days - seems like I am not the only one.

Does anybody know what the problem is, the premieres just aren't the same in SD
post #2419 of 6866
I had the same problem with KXAN. I was very disappointed that I didn't get the Surface Premier last night. Good thing SciFi is replaying it tonight. However, I agree - its just not the same in SD as it would have been in HD.

I sure hope they get this fixed ASAP!
post #2420 of 6866
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Originally Posted by keithrj View Post

I have had a black screen on OTA KXAN 36.1 for the last two days - seems like I am not the only one.

Does anybody know what the problem is, the premieres just aren't the same in SD

You are not the only one. I have had the same problem. I can get KXAN to come in on 21.2 but that really messes up my tivo.

I emailed Mark Dunham who is supposedly the Chief Engineer at KXAN, asking what the problem was, but so far I have not received a reply.
post #2421 of 6866
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Originally Posted by Gman3305 View Post

You are not the only one. I have had the same problem. I can get KXAN to come in on 21.2 but that really messes up my tivo.

I emailed Mark Dunham who is supposedly the Chief Engineer at KXAN, asking what the problem was, but so far I have not received a reply.

Personally, I don't think it is a good idea to post email addresses here unless the people who own them want them posted. Once a couple of nutballs start sending the person rants, that will be the end of access via that channel.

I have corresponded with Dunham in the past about KNVA OTA HD issues and he was not only forthcoming but actually fixed something on their end that I had pointed out to him. Based on that, I suggest that anyone who corresponds with him do so politely and don't overdo it, assuming that he wants to be helpful until proven otherwise.
post #2422 of 6866
I'm not really angry about it, just interested in knowing what took down their signal. It's been great all summer. My TiVo recorded about 10 min. of dead air and then quit.

I hope their PSIP computer didn't croak...it took WB almost three months to fix theirs. ..
post #2423 of 6866
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Originally Posted by MattM View Post

I had the same problem with KXAN. I was very disappointed that I didn't get the Surface Premier last night. Good thing SciFi is replaying it tonight. However, I agree - its just not the same in SD as it would have been in HD.

I sure hope they get this fixed ASAP!

I was changing between the MNF game and HD on CBS and NBC. I noticed no dropouts on any channels last night (only audio sync problems on ABC.) I still have no idea why I am suffering with this and no one else is.
post #2424 of 6866
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Originally Posted by Robert_Lopez View Post

I was changing between the MNF game and HD on CBS and NBC. I noticed no dropouts on any channels last night (only audio sync problems on ABC.) I still have no idea why I am suffering with this and no one else is.

I'm not having a audio sync problem on ABC but I do get it on PBS (KLRU) from time-to-time. I'm wondering if it might be a multi-path issue for me. Dunno.

Alan
post #2425 of 6866
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Originally Posted by gdmedia View Post

Personally, I don't think it is a good idea to post email addresses here unless the people who own them want them posted. Once a couple of nutballs start sending the person rants, that will be the end of access via that channel.

A point well taken. I have since removed that information from my previous post.

I did receive a very nice and informative email from Mark Dunham at KXAN. Here is what he had to say:

Yes, the problem was here. KXAN-DT went on the air in 2000 thus we are
on first generation HD equipment. Unfortunately, we rely on a PC to
insert PSIP data and that computer froze up with a hardware failure
indication sometime late yesterday afternoon. We have corrected the
problem now and in the process discovered that our consumer HD receiver
used to monitor KXAN is a bit too forgiving. It did not recognize that
the channel mapping information had changed so we never lost the signal
in our control room.

We are preparing to upgrade the original HD equipment for KXAN-DT later
this week or next and this will increase the reliability of the signal
as well as allow us to pass the program guide info that we have been
struggling with over the past couple months.


I am not at home right now to see if the problem is fixed, but I sure hope so.
post #2426 of 6866
Hello Everyone!
I've been lurking here for awhile, finally bit the bullit and purchased an HDTV, and I'm preparing to subscribe to the D* HD service. I live in Round Rock, and I was wondering how the OTA reception was there. Anyone have any thoughts or experiences to share? Thanks!

Edit: I should also note that I intend to use the D* OTA antenna to record locals on the HD-Tivo box.
post #2427 of 6866
Hi Kung Fu Jedi, welcome to the world of HD! I live in the south end of Round Rock (Grand Ave and Victoria Station), and have no trouble receiving OTA HD signals using a simple Silver Sensor antenna. It's awesome to live in an area with all the networks available in HD!

I also utilize D*'s service, although I recently dropped their HD package since the new TV season is starting. I don't know how D*'s OTA antenna performs, but if the reception isn't solid you can pick up a Silver Sensor for a reasonable price locally.
post #2428 of 6866
Paul,
Thanks for the info. That bodes well for me being able to pick up an HD OTA signal. Do the stations carry the program guide ont he signal? If I get the HD-DVR, it would be nice if that info were included. Again, thanks for any help!
post #2429 of 6866
With the Silver Sensor I pick up all Austin local stations from Georgetown.
post #2430 of 6866
Tonight on ER and Leno, I'm getting frequent (but short) audio dropouts and snaps. The video seems OK. I'm getting the audio problems both OTA and via QAM cable. I know KXAN has been having some glitches lately but just curious if others have noticed these audio problems tonight. Is digital audio normally "less robust" than video? Just seems odd to me that the audio is glitchy when the picture is fine.
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