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post #331 of 6866
Hmmm... I'm confilicted, but leaning towards taking this bad boy back until they get the next firmware update that should fix a lot of the issues... still have my 8000, and with SD looking so awful via component on the 8000HD, I still have to switch back and forth between the 8000 and the 8000HD to watch everything. It's great to finally be able to record HD, but I really want a one-box solution...

I'm sure I'll waffle back and forth for another month, and hopefully by then they'll have the firmware update...
post #332 of 6866
Got the 8000HD yesterday about 3pm. Didnt see anyone returing theirs. I was a little concerned when the lady helping me just reached behind her and grabbed a 8000HD. I was worried it might be a returned one, but ohh well.

Call 1:
"-----" on the display, "your not authorized message on screen" No problem, I can call to fix this. The CS rep informed me that the mainframe that sends out authorizations had to reboot and for me to wait 20 mins" Ok No problem
Call 2:
After 2 hours of no activation I call again. The box is then activated, everything looks good.
Call 3:
Wont let me record anything, its acting just like a 3250. I call to get the recorder activated. It is, everything looks good
Call 4:
The recoreder was activated, but the HD channels have been deactived. CS rep informs me that "everything looks fine on her end" and she wont help me.

I just unplugged it and plugged it back in and right now I can record and get HD....but HBO HD and Sho HD come in choppy. A tech is coming out tomorrow for a "signal boost". We shall see.

One other thing, I went to Compusa to buy a DVI canble and they were $80!!!!!! WTF....They have to be cheaper right?
post #333 of 6866
Go over to Goodwill Computer Works on 183... They have a bunch of Dell Monitor DVI cables that work fine, and they only cost $10-$15 or something like that...
post #334 of 6866
Any other 8000HD users experiencing sound problems (cutting in/out) when using optical audio from the box?
post #335 of 6866
Even with the older SA HD boxes (I've had a 3250 and whatever came before that), I occasionally get audio dropouts. I now know some (most?) of them were in the source material since it happens in the exact same spot when I rewind and replay with the DVR.
BTW, I'm running the digital audio via coax into a Yamaha 2090 if that matters.
post #336 of 6866
Received this yesterday regarding KXAN.

"I am sorry for not responding sooner but I was hoping to have some good news by now. Our parent company, LIN Television is negotiating with TW for carriage of our HD channels but, apparently things fell apart again this week. We continue to do everything possible at the local level and have a good relationship with TW but, unfortunately this is being handled by folks far removed from Austin."

Mark Dunham
Chief Engineer
KXAN/KNVA/KXAM
(V) 512.703.5234
(F) 512.476.1520
post #337 of 6866
I wonder what they mean when they "fell apart." I picture people from either company on opposites sides of a huge board room table, yelling and spitting at each other.
post #338 of 6866
Foodfight maybe.

It's kind of crazy that they can't manage to come to some sort of deal after, what, 2 or 3 years now? Now that I've got a 8000HD, not being able to timeshift NBC or WB programming is REALLY annoying.
post #339 of 6866
Lucky to have OTA tuner for NASCAR race today. Wish SA8000HD had inputs so I could record race in HD since TW is not outputing NBC in HD.
post #340 of 6866
Thread Starter 
Yeah, I can't understand what's up with KXAN and TWC?! KXAN has been in HD for years (the longest), and it will be the LAST station from the 4 majors to be signed on with TWC!!

Must not be that difficult if low power Fox can get their low budget signal on TWC... so why can't good ol' NBC. The fact that NBC is not on TWC is what is preventing me from just selling my STB tuner and going with TWC for HD. Not that I've watched a single show on NBC for years... it's just the idea that I want it available.
post #341 of 6866
Just spoke with someone at KVUE. The reason that Alias is coming across as SD instead of HighDef is some satellite problem they've been chasing all day. Nothing they can do about it in the control room.

Barry
post #342 of 6866
My 8000HD died today after only 6 days. Bummer. I just sits there in some kind of startup loop. I am gonna swap it out for another tomorrow.
post #343 of 6866
My SA8000HD likes to pause itself during HD playback of recorded material, and for some reason, the graphics are now a greenish blue color instead of the older colors (red/orange I think??). It's better than it was during the middle of last week though. Also getting some digital pixelation on KVUE-DT and KEYE - DT. The converter is also slow to respond to commands from the remote control. Still a great idea though, and I'll tough it out...
post #344 of 6866
Ok, I know this is mainly a place to talk about Time Warner issues but I have a regular ole OTA question about UPN (54.1).

Why is it that our OTA UPN station forces us to watch some programs that are letterboxed shows on the HD channel and it has the flag or digital bit set that won't allow us to change the widescreen format to get it to fill the screen. Andromeda which is on now is one of those shows. From what I've heard they control whether a HD broadcast is resizable and all my Sony 70" XBR950 will let me do is "full" mode. Anyone know what is up with this?
post #345 of 6866
Quote:


Originally posted by Driver
Ok, I know this is mainly a place to talk about Time Warner issues but I have a regular ole OTA question about UPN (54.1).

Why is it that our OTA UPN station forces us to watch some programs that are letterboxed shows on the HD channel and it has the flag or digital bit set that won't allow us to change the widescreen format to get it to fill the screen. Andromeda which is on now is one of those shows. From what I've heard they control whether a HD broadcast is resizable and all my Sony 70" XBR950 will let me do is "full" mode. Anyone know what is up with this?

This is the same way it is w/ all of the OTA stations. If it is a non-HD broadcast they will keep it in 4:3 ration and there is not a damn thing you can do about it. Pretty much sux.
post #346 of 6866
I know there have been 1000+ posts on this TW box or that TW box and this one has DVI, this one doesn't etc....

Up until this point I have ignored all of the TW posts but due to some recent nearly violent issues w/ D* and their s@!t for brains CSRs I am about to make the TW jump. For the same price I am paying D* I can get 3 more HD channels (Fox, INHD1/2) and the HD DVR - seems like a no brainer to me.

So onward through the fog. What I need is you guys to tell me "the" box/converter that is "the one" and that will support DVI/HDCP or wont,etc..


Thanks a million guys/gals.
post #347 of 6866
Quote:


Originally posted by bonoc
I know there have been 1000+ posts on this TW box or that TW box and this one has DVI, this one doesn't etc....

Up until this point I have ignored all of the TW posts but due to some recent nearly violent issues w/ D* and their s@!t for brains CSRs I am about to make the TW jump. For the same price I am paying D* I can get 3 more HD channels (Fox, INHD1/2) and the HD DVR - seems like a no brainer to me.

So onward through the fog. What I need is you guys to tell me "the" box/converter that is "the one" and that will support DVI/HDCP or wont,etc..


Thanks a million guys/gals.

Bonoc,
You won't get FOX in HD from TW or anyone else until they start broadcasting in HD. Supposed to begin sometime this year I think. The TW CSR's were the main thing that drove me away from TW to D* -- plus I could get the NFL Sunday Ticket from D*.

Good luck.

Murray
post #348 of 6866
Quote:


Originally posted by bonoc
I know there have been 1000+ posts on this TW box or that TW box and this one has DVI, this one doesn't etc....

Up until this point I have ignored all of the TW posts but due to some recent nearly violent issues w/ D* and their s@!t for brains CSRs I am about to make the TW jump. For the same price I am paying D* I can get 3 more HD channels (Fox, INHD1/2) and the HD DVR - seems like a no brainer to me.

So onward through the fog. What I need is you guys to tell me "the" box/converter that is "the one" and that will support DVI/HDCP or wont,etc..


Thanks a million guys/gals.

You have some conflicting requirements.

SA8000HD - DVR, DVI not currently enabled, but possible in a future release, see SA3250HD.
SA3250HD - not a DVR, DVI enabled, but so buggy as to be useless.
Pace - not a DVR, not sure about DVI.
SA3100HD - avoid like the plague.

Also, as Murray pointed out FOX isn't HD. They are 480p 16x9 during parts of primetime. At other times, with the poorly done stretching on the digital channel, the analog signal is better.
post #349 of 6866
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Originally posted by RussellC
My 8000HD died today after only 6 days. Bummer. I just sits there in some kind of startup loop. I am gonna swap it out for another tomorrow.

My box died last night along the same lines. Swapping it today.
post #350 of 6866
After getting over initial frustration about DVI disabled I have enjoyed the 8000HD. (used the dvi cable to plug computer into tv instead) Has stretch and zoom modes in settings menu for those 4/3 broadcasts. Also the picture in picture can be more useful than the split screen my TV has. Easy to record/playback. If you have to reboot remember to hit the GUIDE and INFO buttons at the same time before power button to set screen resolution or screen will just blink or output black and white. I plan to keep mine until DVI enabled and then decide if will keep it.
Electronics industry has always rushed products to market in order to keep up with competition. Sometimes manuals/documentation are written before a product is built/tested then they have to catch up.
post #351 of 6866
The electronics industry is bad but the software industry is even worse. Unfortunately, Scientific Atlanta does both with their box. I've never seen a good Scientific Atlanta product. If the piss poor user interface doesn't get to you, the general unstableness of the software will. Sure, rebooting your PC is a PITA, but when was the last time you had to physically unplug it to get it to work again? WTF is with "don't press power until the clock is displayed"?

I wish SA would pay TiVo to port their code to the 8000HD. SA couldn't code their way out of a wet paper bag.
post #352 of 6866
Well I did have fun yesterday watchin' the Daytona 500! Had NBC HD on the OTA tuner with sound thru surround amp then set the 8000HD's 2 tuners to 2 different incar cams that were free on PPV yesterday with that sound on the TV's speakers. Flipped picture back and forth with just 2 buttons. Incar cams don't break for commercials.
post #353 of 6866
Quote:


Originally posted by Darthnice
Also, as Murray pointed out FOX isn't HD

Yea I know that Fox nationally is not HD, I meant to say ED.
post #354 of 6866
Well so far the only thing that "scares" me about going to TW is the "what sounds like crappy" hardware you are stuck w/. If I went w/ TW the advantage they would have for me would be the HD-DVR ie HD8000 of which people are seriously complaining about (plus no DVI).

Maybe I will just wait for a few months and see what happens in the hardware advancement for TW.

Thaks for all of the input.

One more thing - are you TW people enjoying INHD or is at useless as the HDNet/Movies channels? If you just got the HDNet/Movies channel you will think it is cool until the "loop" has been peformed upteenth thousand times.
post #355 of 6866
I just got the Time warner HD8000 last saturday. So far I like it. It is not without its limitations. To comment about DVI - I had the HD3250 which also came with DVI not enabled. After a few months, it was activated automatically. I am sure it will be the same with this box within a few months, so it takes just a bit of patience.
My opinion though is that so far, having the PVR far outweighs the negatives. I went through and started recording all sorts of shows that I like to watch. now I can watch things when I want to and in HD. There are not very many options yet for recording HD, so this is a good transition until something better comes along and you dont even have to buy it.

I also just got the 4 HD tier channels, and so far do like HDnet, but certainly see the issue with a "loop" over similar repeated material. My answer for that is record the things you want from the loop and dont be bothered with the repetitiveness.

Just wanted to add my 2cents
regards to all
Jonathan
post #356 of 6866
A friend of mine (in Austin) with HBO is loving the DVR! Unlike HDnet,they play movies you want to see pretty often, so I may take his advice and sign up for HBO instead of HDnet.

Maybe if the Stars were doing better it'd be worth having HDnet for the hockey coverage. As it is, I have to wait until the Stanley cup since TWA doesn't carry ESPN HD - the "big hype" in sports television.

Right now, the 8000HD is very frustrasting. If I never had a TiVo with season passes and wishlists, and snappy response to the controls I'd probably be very impressed with this HD VCR.

One annoyance: if a program is being recorded and you select it from the list, it takes you into the middle of it instead of starting at the beginning. If you hit stop (to try to get to the option to go to the beginning), your only choices are to stop recording and keep or delete what you've recorded.

The hardware is fine... more than that, extremely impressive for $8/mo. What's a major disappointment is the software, which hasn't improved in two years as far as I can tell.
post #357 of 6866
Pmiranda
the workaround for your annoyance when taken to the middle of a program is rewind. There are three rewind/ff speeds operated by pressing the button 3 times. At the fastest speed, you can rewind an entire hour in about a minute (maybe 2).
I agree that the Tivo software is far superior, but Tivo is just becoming available in HD and only for D*. For the $, the TW PVR isnt a bad choice.
I also have HBOHD, and while the movie content is better than INHD and NDNet, it still replays the same movies over and over.

Last night, I went through an entire week of HD channels and recorded everything I wanted to see for the week. There is so much stuff in there that i wont be able to watch it all. The funny problem I ran into was trying to record 3 things at the same time and several instances where I recorded two at the same time, and then you cant watch a third channel durning the recordings
post #358 of 6866
Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to get some help with really using the 8000HD to my advantage. I have the Sony KP51WS510 and I am hooking up the 8000HD via component cables. My TV has alot of cool capabilities that I am not using, like split screen, and other cool P.I.P stuff. Am I just SOL on these? Is there a way to run compenet from the box and svideo at the same time. Can someone who had their TV hooked up this way please help?

Thanks
post #359 of 6866
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Originally posted by bigbevo2k
Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction to get some help with really using the 8000HD to my advantage. I have the Sony KP51WS510 and I am hooking up the 8000HD via component cables. My TV has alot of cool capabilities that I am not using, like split screen, and other cool P.I.P stuff. Am I just SOL on these? Is there a way to run compenet from the box and svideo at the same time. Can someone who had their TV hooked up this way please help?

Thanks


svideo is currently not enabled.

you can run a seperate coaxial from the wall to use for PIP, but then you are limited to 2-98. (You know the 8000HD has PIP built in right?)
post #360 of 6866
Quote:


Originally posted by bonoc
Well so far the only thing that "scares" me about going to TW is the "what sounds like crappy" hardware you are stuck w/. If I went w/ TW the advantage they would have for me would be the HD-DVR ie HD8000 of which people are seriously complaining about (plus no DVI).

Maybe I will just wait for a few months and see what happens in the hardware advancement for TW.

Thaks for all of the input.

One more thing - are you TW people enjoying INHD or is at useless as the HDNet/Movies channels? If you just got the HDNet/Movies channel you will think it is cool until the "loop" has been peformed upteenth thousand times.


The people who are disappointed with it are obviously going to be more vocal than those who are happy. I've had it since the first day and I'm loving it. I'm just not on here talking about it all the time (cuz I'm busy watching it ) The first night it had a problem, but a hard reboot fixed it and its been working fine for over a week now.

No it is not as good as Tivo, but it is by far the cheapest method of recording HD right now. It's worth the price, IMO.

INHD is about the same as HDnet I would say. They do have good stuff, but the amount of stuff is pretty limited.
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